To be fair, you're going off one version of the actual and real evidence. As with any prosecution, they're presenting the evidence that backs up their particular hypothesis. I'd imagine there's also lots of evidence that casts serious doubt on this hypothesis, because if it was as clear cut as you seem to believe then surely there would have been a trial.ManCityX said:But then I'm just going off the actual and real evidence and not because 'someone just wouldn't lie about that'.
Pigeonho said:Put yourselves amongst the 'Tapas 6', (or whatever it was). Your friends come up to you and tell you they have accidentally killed their child, and want your help in covering it up. Thats 4 people being asked to cover up the death of a child, as well as the parents themselves. Now I don't know about you, but if my own brother asked me to do that, i'd knock him clean out and then get the relevant authorities involved. Accident or not, the death of a child has happened, and the parents of that child should not be asking people to cover the death up, so's not to face any consequences themselves. As I say I wouldn't do that for my own brother, so a couple of friends have no chance whatsoever. I'd like to think the majority of people would think that way, therefore what are the odds of being friends with 4 people who are willing to cover up the death of a child? I would say its nigh on impossible. Also, the poster who is talking about all the evidence in those videos, do you not think there will be evidence to counter that? Thats how a trial works isn't it, for and against evidence? Its all well and good listening to one side of a story, but what about the other? I would say the evidence of Mr and Mrs McCann not crumbling in front of the intense media coverage the incident attracted, and the fact not 1 of the other 4 people have come forward would be enough to nullify anything which is presented in those videos.
Can't agree with this. To me the idea that the parents killed her and then hid her body and lied about it through all the media scrutiny is far more horrific than the thought of some stranger kidnapping a child.Markt85 said:Pigeonho said:Put yourselves amongst the 'Tapas 6', (or whatever it was). Your friends come up to you and tell you they have accidentally killed their child, and want your help in covering it up. Thats 4 people being asked to cover up the death of a child, as well as the parents themselves. Now I don't know about you, but if my own brother asked me to do that, i'd knock him clean out and then get the relevant authorities involved. Accident or not, the death of a child has happened, and the parents of that child should not be asking people to cover the death up, so's not to face any consequences themselves. As I say I wouldn't do that for my own brother, so a couple of friends have no chance whatsoever. I'd like to think the majority of people would think that way, therefore what are the odds of being friends with 4 people who are willing to cover up the death of a child? I would say its nigh on impossible. Also, the poster who is talking about all the evidence in those videos, do you not think there will be evidence to counter that? Thats how a trial works isn't it, for and against evidence? Its all well and good listening to one side of a story, but what about the other? I would say the evidence of Mr and Mrs McCann not crumbling in front of the intense media coverage the incident attracted, and the fact not 1 of the other 4 people have come forward would be enough to nullify anything which is presented in those videos.
I agree, i think certain people cant accept something as horrific as this happening, so make themselves feel better by blaming the parents.
Griff93 said:Get Scooby Doo on the case. He'll find the truth.
masterwig said:Whatever happened the parents are 100% to blame. And I'm sure they know it. That's a guilt they have to live with.
You DO NOT leave a child and two babies alone while you fuck off out for some Tapas and a few drinks with your mates.
whp.blue said:masterwig said:Whatever happened the parents are 100% to blame. And I'm sure they know it. That's a guilt they have to live with.
You DO NOT leave a child and two babies alone while you fuck off out for some Tapas and a few drinks with your mates.
SPOT ON
if the parents had been a working class family from say Sunderland out drinking lager the press would have hounded everyone to take the other children off them and send them to prison not organise a whip round so these two professional parents get jet set around the globe like some kind of supermum and dad
they should have had their lives ruined for the outstanding selfessness that probably cost a young girl her life at best
Arry is Bent said:What are everyones views on this ?
Obviously it was terrible ! Theres countless conspiracy theories on the whole issue though. It seems really strange that despite being nabbed from a public holiday resort NOBODY managed to witness what exactly happened.
Unfortunately I think she probably isn't alive today.
Would be absolutely wonderful though if one day she was found.
Does anyone actually believe in the conspiracy theories !?
Ally.P said:I dont think the parents did it, i think she was taken. Plus I do think that tons and tons of parents over the years have done exactly what they did and leave their kids of an evening, I think its more common than most would like to admit.
Pity the police in Portugal didnt act quick enough to shut the borders, I think all this could have been prevented. I blame them for a lot of it.
Prestwich_Blue said:She's dead mate. Furthermore, she died before she "disappeared". No one witnessed her abduction because it didn't happen.
K.Reeves right foot said:I have always thought the truth was plainly that she was watched in the days before the night she was dissapeared then abducted to order, hence the reports by holiday makers on the local beaches of children being watched by a strange man.
Sometimes the truth is plain and simple [if you understand what I mean]
To back this up, if they killed her by mistake, surely they wouldn't maintain and accelarate public/media attention for months after the event, surely they'd let it die down and think 'thank fuck we got away with it'.
BUT
There has always been 1 thing which has never been mentioned about this case which has struck me as being odd at best and goes completely against the norm in cases such as where parents lose a child by murder/abduction etc and it is this....
History shows that in such cases the parents generally always end up spiralling into breaking up, due to stress, grief, guilt, blaming each other, or the 2 of them [this is common] dealing with it in such different ways that they become strangers to each other / emotionally seperated from each other and end up breaking up. The McCanns are highly unusual in that they seem to have remained just as before. This is the one thing that stands out for me and points MAYBE to a different theory. THat is, they were responsible and their closeness after the event is enduced via a common mission to cover up the truth, this would explain it.
It would be extremely hard to do this, i'm not saying they are to blame, just that it defies all other examples of it, i'm suprised it's never been mentioned in any discussions/documentries before.<br /><br />-- Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:59 pm --<br /><br />Ally.P said:K.Reeves right foot said:I have always thought the truth was plainly that she was watched in the days before the night she was dissapeared then abducted to order, hence the reports by holiday makers on the local beaches of children being watched by a strange man.
Sometimes the truth is plain and simple [if you understand what I mean]
To back this up, if they killed her by mistake, surely they wouldn't maintain and accelarate public/media attention for months after the event, surely they'd let it die down and think 'thank fuck we got away with it'.
BUT
There has always been 1 thing which has never been mentioned about this case which has struck me as being odd at best and goes completely against the norm in cases such as where parents lose a child by murder/abduction etc and it is this....
History shows that in such cases the parents generally always end up spiralling into breaking up, due to stress, grief, guilt, blaming each other, or the 2 of them [this is common] dealing with it in such different ways that they become strangers to each other / emotionally seperated from each other and end up breaking up. The McCanns are highly unusual in that they seem to have remained just as before. This is the one thing that stands out for me and points MAYBE to a different theory. THat is, they were responsible and their closeness after the event is enduced via a common mission to cover up the truth, this would explain it.
I have wondered this too. Maybe they have managed it for the younger children?
You must feel mightly refreshed after that rant!gazhinio said:I for one do NOT believe for one minute that the parents of Madeline Mcann killed their own child and then disposed of her body!
What they obviously did do is leave their three young children unattended whilst they ate a meal, and as a result lost a child to a child abductor (my opinion!)
They now have to live a daily nightmare (rightly or wrongly however you look at it?) as their punishment!
I also don't buy into this theory that just because they are deemed 'middle class' it makes it any different to if they we're council estate wallers...
it's not their fault they are doctors!
it's not their fault they live in a big house!
The national papers decide how they respond to such cases, and in my opinion, they chose correctly in making a big deal of the case (just as it should be if they come from a council estate in Leeds!)..
It is the fault of the papers if they (and inevitable they would probably do so?) slate the Mcanns if they we're from a council estate etc!!!
I just think it's a shame that people need to make up such vile bulllshit about the Mcanns, when in theory they don't know the full facts themselves!
I also believe the Portagese police are a shower of incompetent bastards who really did nothing to help solve this terrible incident and just made a complete hash of it if you ask me!
I personally don't care if people on this forum think they killed Maddie, everybody is entitled to their own opinion etc etc..I just really wish people would not jump to conclusions and just look at the bigger picture!
Rant over