Madeleine McCann

JoeMercer'sWay said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Who'd have thunk there would be a disagreement on a thread about the McCann's?
I know. Let's change the subject to something we all agree on. Like religion.

how about the death penalty or bob?
Don't!! Some might to combine the two ;-)
 
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
That goes without saying, but it doesn't mean the mccanns are somehow guilty by default.
However If that child had been either murdered or killed by accident that night, in that room, then the case would have been much easier to solve. The police sniffer dog means nothing. It was a rental holiday room. God knows how many visitors had stayed there or passed through it.

we'll never know if they are because they fucked up.

so we have to take them as being innocent, but there's always that underlying nagging doubt about it.
Believe me when I say that I know what you mean, the nagging doubt thing that is. But having read a lot on this case I believe the mccanns are innocent. I may be wrong but I hope I'm not. The parallels with the chamberlain case make me err on the side of caution to some extent.
It is my view that they are definitely guilty... but only guilty of neglect of that poor girl - 99,000 times out of a 100,000 they would have got away with it - but this was the 100,000th time...
 
bluemanc said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
gaudinho's stolen car said:
Who'd have thunk there would be a disagreement on a thread about the McCann's?
I know. Let's change the subject to something we all agree on. Like religion.
I didn't know until recently Islam's a cult and not a religion,funny old world.
Christianity is just a Jewish sect as well.<br /><br />-- Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:08 pm --<br /><br />
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
I know. Let's change the subject to something we all agree on. Like religion.

how about the death penalty or bob?
Don't!! Some might to combine the two ;-)
Whoever cut his hair should be hung.
 
Couldnt care less about the Mccanns.

Something like 2 kids are kidnapped every hour, the only reason anyone gives a shit about this family is that they're doctors. If they were average folks no one would have heard of her or her family.
 
20sbc07 said:
Couldnt care less about the Mccanns.

Something like 2 kids are kidnapped every hour, the only reason anyone gives a shit about this family is that they're doctors. If they were average folks no one would have heard of her or her family.
Not true. Any child that is lost from any family that we can relate to (even if only on a 'familiarity' basis borne out of 'that could have been us') is going to get attention. Take for example the family of Sarah Payne. I'm pretty sure we'd be still talking about it now if the child hadn't been found. This isn't about 'class' at all, it's about common humanity.
 
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
We can't get a trial by an elected jury for a good reason, namely that the police have no case. And they know it.

or because the portuguese fucked up.
That goes without saying, but it doesn't mean the mccanns are somehow guilty by default.
However If that child had been either murdered or killed by accident that night, in that room, then the case would have been much easier to solve. The police sniffer dog means nothing. It was a rental holiday room. God knows how many visitors had stayed there or passed through it.

So are you suggesting somebody else possibly died in that same room that was unrelated to the Madeleine McCann case and that's what the sniffer dog detected? I'm not saying that's totally out of the question but it seems remarkably coincidental that a sniffer dog has been brought in to a crime scene yet has uncovered an entirely different incident.
 
M18CTID said:
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
or because the portuguese fucked up.
That goes without saying, but it doesn't mean the mccanns are somehow guilty by default.
However If that child had been either murdered or killed by accident that night, in that room, then the case would have been much easier to solve. The police sniffer dog means nothing. It was a rental holiday room. God knows how many visitors had stayed there or passed through it.

So are you suggesting somebody else possibly died in that same room that was unrelated to the Madeleine McCann case and that's what the sniffer dog detected? I'm not saying that's totally out of the question but it seems remarkably coincidental that a sniffer dog has been brought in to a crime scene yet has uncovered an entirely different incident.
Look at this way. It a dog that is trained to smell 'something' and react.
That is not an exact science is it?
 
mackenzie said:
M18CTID said:
mackenzie said:
That goes without saying, but it doesn't mean the mccanns are somehow guilty by default.
However If that child had been either murdered or killed by accident that night, in that room, then the case would have been much easier to solve. The police sniffer dog means nothing. It was a rental holiday room. God knows how many visitors had stayed there or passed through it.

So are you suggesting somebody else possibly died in that same room that was unrelated to the Madeleine McCann case and that's what the sniffer dog detected? I'm not saying that's totally out of the question but it seems remarkably coincidental that a sniffer dog has been brought in to a crime scene yet has uncovered an entirely different incident.
Look at this way. It a dog that is trained to smell 'something' and react.
That is not an exact science is it?

depends what it smelt and how much evidence it could get to.
 
please watch the videos! they put forward a very strong argument.

on another train of thought. when, if ever, will we find out the truth?
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
M18CTID said:
So are you suggesting somebody else possibly died in that same room that was unrelated to the Madeleine McCann case and that's what the sniffer dog detected? I'm not saying that's totally out of the question but it seems remarkably coincidental that a sniffer dog has been brought in to a crime scene yet has uncovered an entirely different incident.
Look at this way. It a dog that is trained to smell 'something' and react.
That is not an exact science is it?

depends what it smelt and how much evidence it could get to.
Not really, it depends more on how the scene had been previously contaminated and made irrelevant by several factors.
The sniffer dog proved nothing.
 
Bristol-Blue said:
please watch the videos! they put forward a very strong argument.

on another train of thought. when, if ever, will we find out the truth?

I have watched the vids before and then read other stuff that balanced it out.
 
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
mackenzie said:
Look at this way. It a dog that is trained to smell 'something' and react.
That is not an exact science is it?

depends what it smelt and how much evidence it could get to.
Not really, it depends more on how the scene had been previously contaminated and made irrelevant by several factors.
The sniffer dog proved nothing.

firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.
 
20sbc07 said:
Couldnt care less about the Mccanns.

Something like 2 kids are kidnapped every hour, the only reason anyone gives a shit about this family is that they're doctors. If they were average folks no one would have heard of her or her family.



That seems to be the popular misconception, look at how much exposure the Shannon Mathews kidnapping got.
 
Bristol-Blue said:
mackenzie said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
depends what it smelt and how much evidence it could get to.
Not really, it depends more on how the scene had been previously contaminated and made irrelevant by several factors.
The sniffer dog proved nothing.

firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.

You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.
 
mackenzie said:
Bristol-Blue said:
mackenzie said:
Not really, it depends more on how the scene had been previously contaminated and made irrelevant by several factors.
The sniffer dog proved nothing.

firstly, whoever smelt it dealt it, so IT WAS THE DAWWWWWWWGS. motherfuckers who'd have thought it?

secondly, do explain about these factors? have you seen the dogs pick out their rental car in the car park??? imo that is evidence enough alone! just wish everything could be pieced together.

You mean the rental car that the police reckon the mccanns lugged the decomposing body (because that is what it would have been by then) of their child into?
Think about it.

seems pretty logical to me

1) the sniffer dogs are trained to smell dead bodies

2) they are something ridiculous like 99% accurate

3) they were let loose in a large car park and went mental around the boot of the mccans rental car

although you will no doubt tell me different?
 
Jesus, can't get rid of the McCann's can ya? every year they pop up. Can't believe she's now got a book published.
 
I won't pretend to know the facts around the McCann case like mackenzie does, but I will say that I've had some dealings with the Portuguese authorities personally, and they are beyond fucking useless.
 

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