Manchester’s Changing Skyline
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Oh, no doubt. No skyscraper will never be in the same class as Chetham’s or the Town Hall. All the world’s best skylines are cities like Washington DC and St Petersburg where they have no skyscrapers.
But I do like some of them and I do like buildings like the proposed High Street, Sunlight House etc… something a bit different than just a box of glass.
jimharri
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Yeah; some of the new ones are okay-ish. A lot of them, though; hmm. Cost, though, would be the issue. How much would a carbon copy (down to the last window catch) of the town hall cost to build? And as for the cost of a similar site (in terms of size and prominence)? Wow.
m7mcfc
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A carbon copy of the Town hall cost? Put it this way the refurb going on at the moment is costing £325 million and I read the other week they need an extra £30 million to finish it off.
jimharri
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Pre-bloody-cisely. You couldn't do it, unless you had a benefactor called Gates, Job or (wait for it, wait for it) Mansour.
roman totale
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These old buildings simply cannot be replicated nowadays. Partially the cost and partially that there are just not enough craftsman around nowadays to produce the stonework etc at the kind of scale needed.
Longballutd
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That’s a shocker
RobMCFC
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The video is dated, but the pictures are from yesterday. The last 2 pictures are taken from the top floor of the Circle Square car park
No3 Circle Square - Office - 15 fl - Circle Square - City Centre
I work in Circle Square #2 (two days a week, anyway). The two buildings still aren't full so I guess they are expecting an influx of companies over the next few years.
Stockton Heath Blue
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Tour de Manc brings you home via Norden towards Heywood where the wind turbines are. Decent view from up there.
Stockton Heath Blue
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I have a client who has completely renovated several Yorkshire stone mills. The rebuild costs are 3-4 times the value of the investment. In some cases, the value of the stone is higher than the capital value of the property, which is nuts.
ColinBellsjockstrap
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Great views from the top of Wild Bank Stalybridge, Werneth Low, Hyde and the monument in Tandle Hills Park.
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The Town Hall cost about £1m to build in 1877. In today’s money, that’s £96m in today’s money. However, that’s with only equating the cost of everything today as being the same ratio as it was back then; materials, labour, contracts, shipping costs etc. would have been much cheaper back then so hard to judge how much it would come to today.
jimharri
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I stand to be corrected here (wouldn't be the first time!), but I somehow doubt that 100m would go too far in constructing the same building today!
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Definitely wouldn’t. I’m guessing here but I bet you could multiply the cost of materials, labour, contracts, shipping costs etc. by 100 on top of the 95 fold increase in price from 1877-2023.
As m7mcfc said, the refurbish is costing just under £400m (set to be completed next year).
Indeed, I bet that Town Hall today would be a £1billion project today (and just not feasible....not that you'd want to recreate the past).
If you think the COOP Arena is £300 million and it's essentially a large empty box (I'm sure a very fine large box however).
If you think the COOP Arena is £300 million and it's essentially a large empty box (I'm sure a very fine large box however).
