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Manchester City v Celtic post match thread
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eyalluvitt
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Bricking and bottling kids and women and burning City flags, oh it’s just the craic, so it isCant have been anything like as bad as Shelbourne in the 1990s.
abellwillring
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If there were some tickets that cheap, they were few and far between. Most of the games on the tour were closer to $100 on the low end. I know at least one of the games had a price of around $160 to sit in the City supporters' section but I can't remember which one. NYC were definitely all over $100 though in general but there's such a big potential audience that I bet it will be pretty decently full.70 dollars a ticket allegedly
Sadly I passed on this tour because the ticket prices were just out of control on top of the travel. It would have ended up being probably $1,000 to go to any of the games with the flight, hotel, etc.
As far as the game itself goes.. pretty happy with the way it went. No one seriously injured despite the best efforts of the Celtic players, the fans got to see Haaland score (was expecting him to go off at HT) and a few young players looked very good. Obviously the defense and midfield struggled.. I think Mbete is a decent prospect generally speaking so we'll see what happens with him, but Wilson-Esbrand definitely had a night to forget and it'll torment him for awhile. Unfortunate since their players were in their 4th match and a lot sharper due to it.
eyalluvitt
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Very strange wasn’t it, we have multi million pound assets getting smashed about the pitch by a bunch of cyborgs over Sean by Sunday league standard O’fishallsMy post from the post-match thread sums them up:
Edit: I somehow forgot to mention the officials who were truly woeful, ignoring three penalties for us (two pretty clear ones, the first of which should have seen the Celtic player sent off for DOGSO), one of their goals being given despite being miles offside, numerous wrong decisions for throw ins, and letting the Celtic players continually kick ours (especially toward the end) with nary a stern word.
It’s only a friendly, but add this with all the other issues, and it really made the game feel like an American SoccerAid at times, but with even less polish.
Mad Eyed Screamer
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Tickets for the 4 games are costing between $110 - $125 to City supporters clubs when they went on sale.Seems to have been mentioned a few times on here but curious to know how much a ticket roughly cost at last time's game?
Some friends who attended the UNC College American football games over there last season stated it was pretty much packed on a regular basis. Although I'm sure student college game subsidies & a successful season for UNC where their QB Drake Maye subsequently got highly drafted in the NFL were contributing factors to capacity attendances.
Chapel Hill is a one horse town, not in a densely built up area / corridor like Washington6 DC / Baltimore / Philly.
It is a student town - and guess what? The students have all returned home for the summer.
It looked a very good venue but the isolation of the town (and North Carolina as a whole) made it a very strange choice to play a game
Exciting game for the few localsTickets for the 4 games are costing between $110 - $125 to City supporters clubs when they went on sale.
Chapel Hill is a one horse town, not in a densely built up area / corridor like Washington6 DC / Baltimore / Philly.
It is a student town - and guess what? The students have all returned home for the summer.
It looked a very good venue but the isolation of the town (and North Carolina as a whole) made it a very strange choice to play a game
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Don't want to get too far into that topic but I think it's more to the point that City and the rest of the big 6 overtook like likes of Celtic and Rangers ages ago. Domestically in their country there is Celtic and Rangers, so it's fair to say they are have been a bigger deal in their own country than City have for 9/10ths but when was the last time Scottish football was as relevant globally as English football(has it ever been)? The English game wasn't always global either and the USA if we're focussing on that, has not historically taken to 'soccer' in the numbers it has today. Spurs are bigger than Celtic today IMO.Completely agree. That's basically my point.
They cling onto absurd metrics such as the number of supporters clubs or the number of fanatics who have opened bars abroad(Scottish expats supporting Celtic?.. Wow). They can open as many supporters clubs as they like(we have more than Liverpool and United) and 'themed' bars too(bit tacky IMO) it doesn't really mean much though.
Take a look at the TV deals which is as good an indicator of the global interest as any. Scottish football is below Austrian, South African and Indian football on their deals. More in line with A-League(Australia). Though it also says, per game value Scottish Premiership ranks 10th. Probably something to do with the space Sky has for it, since they only show 60.
Anyway, Andy Townsend talks shite. City are definitely far bigger than Celtic globally today. So he can stop taking cheap shots now. I seem to remember he said City are bigger than Arsenal(I'm not sure we are globally yet) and Chelsea(yes) but not Celtic. So they're saying Arsenal are smaller too(who were bigger than them far sooner than we were). Sutton once claimed Celtic reserves are bigger than Leicester as a club too. Is it a cultish-hipster thing people do to appear trendy? They're not even Scottish, I don't get it. What are they even basing it on? It can't be global fans who aren't Scottish or Irish or CL appearances for as long as it's been called the CL. When the game truly went global. Celtic had as many CL appearances as City did in the 90s, if I remember right(zero).
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liongard82
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Yeah I think we are all basically agreeing here in different ways. Last nights crowd definitely showed this.Don't want to get too far into that topic but I think it's more to the point that City and the rest of the big 6 overtook like likes of Celtic and Rangers ages ago. Domestically in their country there is Celtic and Rangers, so it's fair to say they are have been a bigger deal in their own country than City have for 9/10ths but when was the last time Scottish football was as relevant globally as English football(has it ever been)? The English game wasn't always global either and the USA if we're focussing on that, has not historically taken to 'soccer' in the numbers it has today. Spurs are bigger than Celtic today IMO.
They cling onto absurd metrics such as the number of supporters clubs or the number of fanatics who have opened bars abroad(Scottish expats supporting Celtic?.. Wow). They can open as many supporters clubs as they like(we have more than Liverpool and United) and 'themed' bars too(bit tacky IMO) it doesn't really mean much though.
Take a look at the TV deals which is as good an indicator of the global interest as any. Scottish football is below Austrian, South African and Indian football on their deals. More in line with A-League(Australia). Though it also says, per game value Scottish Premiership ranks 10th. Probably something to do with the space Sky has for it, since they only show 60.
Anyway, Andy Townsend talks shite. City are definitely far bigger than Celtic globally today. So he can stop taking cheap shots now. I seem to remember he said City are bigger than Arsenal(I'm not sure we are globally yet) and Chelsea(yes) but not Celtic. Sutton once claimed Celtic reserves are bigger than Leicester as a club too. Is it a cultish-hipster thing people do to appear trendy? They're not even Scottish, I don't get it.
It reminded me of when Celtic played Liverpool at the Aviva in Dublin a few years ago and there were clearly more Liverpool in the crowd by quite a bit.
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It’s not just Premier League though which you seem to keep referring to - they have been surpassed by every other league in world football.Again, I'm not arguing with you. They were and now they are not. Did you read what I wrote.
And City have benefited hugely from the explosion of the PL. And the PL has led to domestically big clubs becoming globally big clubs. Of course it has.
They have been irrelevant for 20+ years and bypassed by so many other teams.
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Yeah, I think City would still lose the crowd battle in Ireland. They absolutely love Celtic there and Liverpool annoyingly. :)Yeah I think we are all basically agreeing here in different ways. Last nights crowd definitely showed this.
It reminded me of when Celtic played Liverpool at the Aviva in Dublin a few years ago and there were clearly more Liverpool in the crowd by quite a bit.
I'm not hating on Celtic or Rangers to be clear(I've got no strong feelings about either club). It's just one of the sticks the anti-City mob use to beat City fans with, that gets annoying, because they make no sense.
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Mad Eyed Screamer
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Had the game been played in Boston or NY, there would have been 3 times the crowd there (if not more) and City would have been heavily outnumbered, as obviously the population is far greater than in North Carolina but also the plastic paddies would have been out in force. The fact St Patrick's Day is a huge day in many, many countries around the world (especially in the US) tells you how big Celtic's fan base is too around the world, not necessarily because they are football fans (most won't be) but because it is an extension of their plastic Irishness. Support by association.Don't want to get too far into that topic but I think it's more to the point that City and the rest of the big 6 overtook like likes of Celtic and Rangers ages ago. Domestically in their country there is Celtic and Rangers, so it's fair to say they are have been a bigger deal in their own country than City have for 9/10ths but when was the last time Scottish football was as relevant globally as English football(has it ever been)? The English game wasn't always global either and the USA if we're focussing on that, has not historically taken to 'soccer' in the numbers it has today. Spurs are bigger than Celtic today IMO.
They cling onto absurd metrics such as the number of supporters clubs or the number of fanatics who have opened bars abroad(Scottish expats supporting Celtic?.. Wow). They can open as many supporters clubs as they like(we have more than Liverpool and United) and 'themed' bars too(bit tacky IMO) it doesn't really mean much though.
Take a look at the TV deals which is as good an indicator of the global interest as any. Scottish football is below Austrian, South African and Indian football on their deals. More in line with A-League(Australia). Though it also says, per game value Scottish Premiership ranks 10th. Probably something to do with the space Sky has for it, since they only show 60.
Anyway, Andy Townsend talks shite. City are definitely far bigger than Celtic globally today. So he can stop taking cheap shots now. I seem to remember he said City are bigger than Arsenal(I'm not sure we are globally yet) and Chelsea(yes) but not Celtic. So they're saying Arsenal are smaller too(who were bigger than them far sooner than we were). Sutton once claimed Celtic reserves are bigger than Leicester as a club too. Is it a cultish-hipster thing people do to appear trendy? They're not even Scottish, I don't get it. What are they even basing it on? It can't be global fans who aren't Scottish or Irish or CL appearances for as long as it's been called the CL. When the game truly went global. Celtic had as many CL appearances as City did in the 90s, if I remember right(zero).
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Yeah I suppose Boston City would take the L but that's quite specific and you've highlighted the reason. City do have large support in NYC overall from what I hear though(some of the biggest supporters clubs).Had the game been played in Boston or NY, there would have been 3 times the crowd there (if not more) and City would have been heavily outnumbered, as obviously the population is far greater than in North Carolina but also the plastic paddies would have been out in force. The fact St Patrick's Day is a huge day in many, many countries around the world (especially in the US) tells you how big Celtic's fan base is too around the world, not necessarily because they are football fans (most won't be) but because it is an extension of their plastic Irishness. Support by association.
Just to be clear, your point is more that they are still relevant, not that you actually believe the myth that Celtic's global fanbase is 'still' bigger than City's, right?
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Mad Eyed Screamer
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Yes agree.Yeah I suppose Boston City would take the L but that's quite specific and you've highlighted the reason. City do have large support in NYC overall from what I hear though(some of the biggest supporters clubs).
Just to be clearly your point is more that they are still relevant, not that you actually believe the horseshit that Celtic's global fanbase is bigger than City's right?
As with both Old Firm clubs, it's hard to distinguish genuine supporters overseas (who watch games week in / week out) than those ''ex pats'' on both sides keeping the ''the sectarian shite'' alive in Australia, NZ, Canada etc etc without having any real involvement with either club - cup finals / old firm derbies apart
The one thing is though, their support won't grow and that is where they will be taken over by City and other PL teams. The Old Firm's new fans from overseas will only come from brainwashed kids that current fans have. They are not on TV here and never make the Champions League group stages so will not appeal to anyone looking to latch on to a club, where as City's fan base is growing year by year by the constant exposure via the PL and CL.
liongard82
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The only reason I mention the P L is that we are in that. I don't really care about other leagues etc, I'm only talking about City and the league we are in.It’s not just Premier League though which you seem to keep referring to - they have been surpassed by every other league in world football.
They have been irrelevant for 20+ years and bypassed by so many other teams.
I couldn't care less that Real Madrid or Rapid Vienna are bigger than Celtic and Rangers.
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I agree with most of that too. Some of the Celtic and Rangers stuff goes beyond football and logic too which is why most people don't like getting into the discussion: "yeah Celtic are massive, can we move on now please". Everyone is a little precious about their club, I get that, but United fans, Liverpool fans, Arsenal fans now Celtic think City fans are supposed to just like or lump all these talking points they choose to drag City's name into, which irritates me. I don't like pointing things out like how far Scottish football has fallen behind but as long as they keep trying to have these conversations it's kind of relevant.Yes agree.
As with both Old Firm clubs, it's hard to distinguish genuine supporters overseas (who watch games week in / week out) than those ''ex pats'' on both sides keeping the ''the sectarian shite'' alive in Australia, NZ, Canada etc etc without having any real involvement with either club cup finals / old firm derbies apart
The one thing is though, their support won't grow and that is where they are / will be taken over by City and other PL countries. The Old Firm's new fans from overseas will only come from brainwashed kids that current fans have. They are not on TV here and never make the Champions League group stages so will not appeal to anyone looking to latch on to a club, where as City's fan base is growing year by year by the constant exposure via the PL and CL.
I remember showing Celtic fans in the comments of that talksport clickbait, the facts on: shirt sales, tv views, social media counts and so on, everything pointing to City being on another level. Asking them "which countries outside of Scotland and Ireland are Celtic bigger than City in exactly?" and what they have to back that up but it does no good. It will always be thing, no matter what facts we have to disprove the nonsense people throw at our fanbase. They still believe we can't fill our stadium.
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BolinCell
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that's stating the obvious is it not, its a religion thing. Celtic was probably established by Irish immigrants to Scotland.Yeah, I think City would still lose the crowd battle in Ireland. They absolutely love Celtic there and Liverpool annoyingly. :)
I'm not hating on Celtic or Rangers to be clear(I've got no strong feelings about either club). It's just one of the sticks the anti-City mob use to beat City fans with, that gets annoying, because they make no sense.
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Probably? Lolthat's stating the obvious is it not, its a religion thing. Celtic was probably established by Irish immigrants to Scotland.
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As I've said already, the choice of city for the game was poor in terms of expecting a decent crowd. A low density area in a low populated state.I watched the game on YouTube and was surprised at how poor the Celtic support looked.
Looked far more City than Celtic.
It's a student town and all the students have fucked off home for the summer.
Had Celtic played in Boston, NY or Chicago it would have been a different scenario
BolinCell
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City are bigger than Celtic and every other club in Scotland at this moment in time and for the forseable future. If you went round the world asking general football fans which is the bigger club Celtic or Man City I think you would get a funny look as if to say is this a trick question. That's how big the gulf is now the PL has established itself as the number one league. You can't be a big club when your competing in a second rate league. Its alright having thousands of ex pats and 4 and 5 generation immigrants. Its ok having domination of all the catholic support in Scotland, but sadly that doesn't buy you the best players your still stuck in a tinpot league.