Mancini Almost Left To Manage Monaco

Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?
Deliberately missing the point

Assuming it's true, which I doubt after all the other rubbish, it's presented in a very negative fashion. If he turned down a huge financial offer to stay at City, that's a good news story for most people.

You explain the incessant negative newsflow please.

I believe that the news media run on a commercial basis, and to sell their papers and up their web-site hits they print bad news about unpopular clubs, and good stories about popular clubs.

Refereeing is down to the fear of Man Utd / Ferguson, and the intense atmosphere at away grounds when the Champions visit which influences refs. I also think that it is possible that there's some corruption going on with refs as the refereeing decisions in favour of Man Utd eg Liverpool and Chelsea have been extreme and are very hard to explain otherwise. I look forward to your explanation...to date you haven't come up with one
 
Marvin said:
Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?
Deliberately missing the point

Assuming it's true, which I doubt after all the other rubbish, it's presented in a very negative fashion. If he turned down a huge financial offer to stay at City, that's a good news story for most people.

You explain the incessant negative newsflow please.

I believe that the news media run on a commercial basis, and to sell their papers and up their web-site hits they print bad news about unpopular clubs, and good stories about popular clubs.

Refereeing is down to the fear of Man Utd / Ferguson, and the intense atmosphere at away grounds when the Champions visit which influences refs. I also think that it is possible that there's some corruption going on with refs as the refereeing decisions in favour of Man Utd eg Liverpool and Chelsea have been extreme and are very hard to explain otherwise. I look forward to your explanation...to date you haven't come up with one
Unpopular you say. Unpopular with who? The public? If that's the case, can you explain why the majority of fans of other clubs absolutely loved it when we pipped united to the league championship? We weren't very unpopular then, infact we were as popular with those fans as United's loss was.
 
BlueDejong said:
So...next summer .. Pep?


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Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?

So true unless the press are blowing smoke up our ass nobody believes a word
 
Who cares honestly, he's the manager. Done a job and won us three trophies in just under 3 years, if starts to lose the team, fans or confidence of the club he's gone that's the nature of football.

So far though he's doing a good job and until any of the above happens he no doubt will be staying, so lets just get behind the club in general and enough with all this negativity bollocks!
 
I've been 100% behind Mancini from day one and still am. I am very disappointed to hear about this business with Monaco. Even if he thought he was going to get the sack he didnt need to go off talking to another club for weeks on end.

Let's not forget we are talking about a millionaire here, not an average bloke like us lot who needs to pay the mortgage and feed the kids. If he'd have been sacked he would have got a nice little pay off and could have gone back into football at any time.

Very disappointed.
 
IF Mancini had been told that winning the league was his goal IF he was going to receive the new long term deal, and IF after the Arsenal defeat he, like everyone else, seemed to believe we were NOT going to win the league (and thus Mancini believed he was going to be let go), THEN he was simply being prudent.

Regardless of all the conditional statements, what is NOT in doubt is that Mancini signed a significant deal to stay at City and is being backed by the owner with a world class back room operation and the best training facilities in the world to go with the quickest and most expensively assembled squad in the history of football.

All that said, SOMETHING needs to come from the Club and/or Mancini to put this to bed. Maybe, we are just waiting until the Sheikh has had a chance to talk to everyone involved and decide the next move?
 
Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?

It it was Ferguson in the story I suspect The Guardian would've put a positive slant on it: "Sir Alex ignores Monaco riches to remain loyal to United".
 
Ric said:
Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?

It it was Ferguson in the story I suspect The Guardian would've put a positive slant on it: "Sir Alex ignores Monaco riches to remain loyal to United".
And they would do that why?
 
Mike N said:
I've been 100% behind Mancini from day one and still am. I am very disappointed to hear about this business with Monaco. Even if he thought he was going to get the sack he didnt need to go off talking to another club for weeks on end.

Let's not forget we are talking about a millionaire here, not an average bloke like us lot who needs to pay the mortgage and feed the kids. If he'd have been sacked he would have got a nice little pay off and could have gone back into football at any time.

Very disappointed.

There'll be another article out soon about how City held discussions with various managers, or their agents, as to whether they would be available if the club were to sack Mancini.
 
Pigeonho said:
Ric said:
Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?

It it was Ferguson in the story I suspect The Guardian would've put a positive slant on it: "Sir Alex ignores Monaco riches to remain loyal to United".
And they would do that why?
Because it is rare to have a story castigated Ferguson. Doing so usually results in a ban from OT.
 
SWP's back said:
Pigeonho said:
Ric said:
It it was Ferguson in the story I suspect The Guardian would've put a positive slant on it: "Sir Alex ignores Monaco riches to remain loyal to United".
And they would do that why?
Because it is rare to have a story castigated Ferguson. Doing so usually results in a ban from OT.
I see.
Course, this is hardly a negative story anyway, is it? What it is, is a story about a manager having been sought after by another club, which is exactly what is happening over in the Championship this morning with Palace and Blackpool. If anything it could be seen as a positive because Mancini obviously stayed here and penned a new deal. The line 'after overhauling United to the league title' could be seen as a pop at United in a story which is nothing about them, but no one will see that because apparently everything is just so anti-City. It all depends how you see things and how bothered you are in the first place.
I see it as what it is - one club after the services of the manager of another club. The manager says thanks but no thanks and stays put.
 
Pigeonho said:
Ric said:
Pigeonho said:
Ah the old Bluemoon theory of a story being bullshit if its a negative one strikes again. I ask, if it was fergie in the story, would it be bullshit then?

It it was Ferguson in the story I suspect The Guardian would've put a positive slant on it: "Sir Alex ignores Monaco riches to remain loyal to United".
And they would do that why?

Not getting an 18 month ban
 
Not really interested if he was touted or not ( last season’s news) he is still a Manchester City manager with a 5 year contract, however there a quite a few negative stories surfacing at the moment in the media the latest being RVP refusal to join City.
My question would be why are these negative slant stories starting to surface again in the media, and the rag media machine in full positive flow.????????
 
bluelol said:
Not really interested if he was touted or not ( last season’s news) he is still a Manchester City manager with a 5 year contract, however there a quite a few negative stories surfacing at the moment in the media the latest being RVP refusal to join City.
My question would be why are these negative slant stories starting to surface again in the media, and the rag media machine in full positive flow.????????
Could it be because those stories happened? Like this one here, if indeed it did happen well isn't it the news outlets job to print such stories? Isn't it then up to the public to tick either the 'oh shit, really?', 'oh', or the 'so fucking what?' box? If Wenger had been the manager in question, it would have appeared in the papers, same with Rogers, Ferguson or any other manager. Again though I ask how is this a negative, what with the eventual outcome of Mancini deciding to remain here?
 
Hmmm. An article without even one quote. Great journalism.

After speaking with a City source loyal to the club for over 25 years (i.e. me) Bluetonium can reveal that the average City fan is bored with such stories.

How about a story on Fergie refusing to let go over the road? According to once source close to the club (some Spurs fan I was chatting to in O' Neils last week in Didsbury, which technically is only a few miles away from their ground) he's actually damaging the club in the long term with his refusal to relinquish even part of the role, making a transition ever more painful each day he remains in charge.

Ooh, bet I'm banned from Owed Trafford now. Have to take a dump in work instead.
 
Pigeonho said:
bluelol said:
Not really interested if he was touted or not ( last season’s news) he is still a Manchester City manager with a 5 year contract, however there a quite a few negative stories surfacing at the moment in the media the latest being RVP refusal to join City.
My question would be why are these negative slant stories starting to surface again in the media, and the rag media machine in full positive flow.????????
Could it be because those stories happened? Like this one here, if indeed it did happen well isn't it the news outlets job to print such stories? Isn't it then up to the public to tick either the 'oh shit, really?', 'oh', or the 'so fucking what?' box? If Wenger had been the manager in question, it would have appeared in the papers, same with Rogers, Ferguson or any other manager. Again though I ask how is this a negative, what with the eventual outcome of Mancini deciding to remain here?

The whole story is a negative, as the scum Press will now go to town on Mancini again, something they appear so keen to do at the every opportunity. It is very rare you see a positive story about Mancini. He is now going to get hounded by the Press to give an answer and no matter what answer he comes out with, they will turn it into a negative, not a positive. Unfortunately, most readers won't be able to see behind the negative slant they will no doubt print.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
BlueAnorak said:
All I can say is big wow. Mancini in "I want to work shocker"...
If you thought there was a chance your job would vanish what would you do?

win the last 6 games of the season to win the title?

Ha ha - well that too!
 

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