Mancini Almost Left To Manage Monaco

unexpected item said:
Tweet from today's press conference

David McDonnell ‏@DiscoMirror
Mancini says he was "very close with seven or eight teams" last season, not just Monaco, with whom he held talks
You have to admire his honesty in a weird sort of way. I think we should have followed Billy's suggestion though.
 
BillyShears said:
unexpected item said:
Tweet from today's press conference

David McDonnell ‏@DiscoMirror
Mancini says he was "very close with seven or eight teams" last season, not just Monaco, with whom he held talks

Good to know whilst everyone and their mother was saying Mancini was 100% guaranteed to still be in a job last summer that the man himself was lining up seven or eight contingencies.

Classic case of Mancini being far too honest and open with the press IMO. City really do have a shit media handling department.

I read that as Mancini using sarcasm as a reply.
 
BillyShears said:
unexpected item said:
Tweet from today's press conference

David McDonnell ‏@DiscoMirror
Mancini says he was "very close with seven or eight teams" last season, not just Monaco, with whom he held talks

Good to know whilst everyone and their mother was saying Mancini was 100% guaranteed to still be in a job last summer that the man himself was lining up seven or eight contingencies.

Classic case of Mancini being far too honest and open with the press IMO. City really do have a shit media handling department.
Surely no-one is "very close" with 7 or 8 potential employers?

I have no doubt Mancini, given his contract status last winter, was looking at his options, but I still find it hard to believe Monaco, a second division French side, were high up his list of options.
 
you'd be a lunatic if you didn't give £6.4 million p.a. tax free very serious consideration!

I'd be quite tempted too tbf
 
Balti said:
you'd be a lunatic if you didn't give £6.4 million p.a. tax free very serious consideration!

I'd be quite tempted too tbf

The financial package is the only reason it might be viable, but I don't see Mancini as being at the point in his managerial career where he's willing to put aside success and trophies for a big cash payment.
 
Ian Cheeseman ‏@IanCheeseman
Mancini, (tongue in cheek) "I talked to 7 clubs (referring to reports of Monaco talk) but prefer it here"
Mancini"I'm very happy with Soriano and the other new people"
Injury news:
Richards 4 weeks, Zabaleta & Garcia available now, Rodwell 2 weeks, Silva still a week!
 
wireblue said:
simon23 said:
wireblue said:
I speak as a working journalist.
Couple of points – yes it may be true, but to say there is absolutely no reason to doubt the story is extremely naive. There could be a whole manner of inaccuracies in it and they don’t even have to malicious. Just human error or getting facts wrong, misinformation – it happens.

Also to say certain sections of the media won’t be hoping city get beat against west ham is also very naive. Maybe hope is the wrong word but the journalist will be looking for the strongest possible story and City getting beat by west ham and ramping up the pressure on mancini is a far better story than city breezing to a standard 2-0 win. Admittedly that isn’t specifically anti-city but i have no doubts there are sports journalists out there who would take great pleasure in that angle and push it to the nth degree.

Finally, to say there is no negative angle to this story is way wide of the mark. The very fact the manager’s job (either through sacking or resignation) was a real possibility only a few months ago will do absolutely nothing for the stability of the club. Maybe the journalist didn’t put a negative slant with the language he used but that’s because he didn’t have to – unless he is lives on mars then he would know the result of the article would be a negative one to the club.

I’ll give you an example. I have been subbing the sports pages for a newspaper since the start of the season. I have been writing headlines about a certain club which has been struggling dramatically. I have absolutely no axe to grind against this club but my headlines were negative and putting pressure on the manager simply because that is the inescapable story. Incidentally the manager was sacked very recently.
But like i say i had absolutely no beef with the club – no opinion whatsoever – but if it was a club i disliked with a passion then you can bet your bottom dollar my headlines would have been more inflammatory. If i was writing a headline about fergiescum being under pressure do you not think i would take great pleasure in doing a little bit to bring about the end of the old pisscan? Of course i would!

You can’t call a journalist a rag just for printing a negative story, but you need to compare his story to those of others covering the same story and judge it over a period of time. Then all will become clear as to who in the media has an agenda against City

As you are a journalist...can you answer me this please. Why cannt the media (and not just in terms of sport but on a general level as well) just stick to reporting the FACTS!.....I read reviews of football games Ive watched/been to and wonder if the journo writing them has even been to/watched the same game.

The reasons why the journos/media get such a hard time is because they spread gossip and rumor causing endless strife (again not just in sport but wider parts of life)...their job surely is to report the news...not to put negative spin on things to suit their own or the papers agenda, not to put pressure on a persons position/job, not to continually ask the same inane questions day after day week after week when told the same bit of info already.....

Report the facts...not opinion...that is the job of the media surely???????? If you want to tell stories then write a book....I want to read a sports report/bit of info on my team that isnt full of bias and hearsay...I want to know the truth about what is going on (im not saying that this reported article isnt but as you say there maybe some wild inaccuracies (though Im not sure why when most reporters carry recording equipment so evenif they "forget" what the exact answer was they can check?...My feeling is that these inaccuracies are deliberate!

This isnt a dig at you (though paraphrasing the words I often here the media use...."if you are going to put yourself in a position of fame etc then its in the public interest to know all about you"..well you have just done the same thing...large sections of media for me are utter trash (trying to put it nicely) and you have just put yourself out there to be shot at!

Happy to be shot at but i have a feeling my response may belong in the cellar.
Saying that about journalists is like saying why don’t all politicians just work for the good of the people, why don’t all businessman be considerate to the communities they operate in etc etc etc.
So because i’m a journalist i’m a scumbag short of morals? Couldn’t be further from the truth (i would like to think).
Think about the incredible documentaries you see on television, think about holding politicians/banks to account and of course holding itself to account when needs be. Think about local newspapers giving publicity to fundraising events, think about coverage of tales of incredible human endeavour that makes you proud to be British, think about even the simplest of things you do in your life and most of it will be reliant on media in some form or other.
How do you find out about what your local council is up to and who holds it to account when they close down your library or school? Your local newspaper.
How do you find out about what’s going on in iran? Incredibly brave journalists who risk their lives to tell you THE TRUTH.
And i tell you what, for all their faults i’d rather hear things from a journalist than a partizan local council newsletter or a government official.
I’m not for one minute suggesting there isn’t a sordid side to the media but by Christ i tell you what – if you didn’t have it your life would be far worse off as a result.

Comparing the media to politicians or bankers is NEVER going to be a good defense for a starters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also never said you were a scum bag short of morals...(is this an example of a journo miss quoting someone to suit their own agenda ;-) )


As for holding yourselves to account...do you mean the occasional retracted statement or the smallest apology that sometimes gets printed.....that's hardly accountable and is never sincere.

And even the media that cover the the most severe stories are biased and have agendas (even the stories about Iran/Iraq over the last few years).

And I try to have the media in my life as little as possible..I dont buy newspapers anymore, and if I want the news Ill watch the news on TV...(though even that is laced with propaganda from one side or the other)

I want facts..not opinion... and only facts...is that too hard/too much to ask?
 
Matty said:
BillyShears said:
unexpected item said:
Tweet from today's press conference

Good to know whilst everyone and their mother was saying Mancini was 100% guaranteed to still be in a job last summer that the man himself was lining up seven or eight contingencies.

Classic case of Mancini being far too honest and open with the press IMO. City really do have a shit media handling department.
Surely no-one is "very close" with 7 or 8 potential employers?

I have no doubt Mancini, given his contract status last winter, was looking at his options, but I still find it hard to believe Monaco, a second division French side, were high up his list of options.


Mancini is one of the most politically savvy managers in world football IMO.

He played City beautifully on his recent contract extension.

I know he was courted very heavily by Juventus the year before last.

I was sceptical about the Russia claims, only because those pesky Commie bastards can fake anything.

As for Monaco, not being funny, but football in France is on the verge of a boom.

A huge tax free salary in one of the most beautiful places in the world, an endless supply of eye candy every minute, a Russian billionaire benefactor...what's not to like?
 
Cielo Azzurro said:
Ian Cheeseman ‏@IanCheeseman
Mancini, (tongue in cheek) "I talked to 7 clubs (referring to reports of Monaco talk) but prefer it here"
Mancini"I'm very happy with Soriano and the other new people"
Injury news:
Richards 4 weeks, Zabaleta & Garcia available now, Rodwell 2 weeks, Silva still a week!

With Richards and Maicon injured the return of Zaba is a Godsend. Kolo Toure as a starting fullback was filling me with a sense of dread.
 
Matty said:
Balti said:
you'd be a lunatic if you didn't give £6.4 million p.a. tax free very serious consideration!

I'd be quite tempted too tbf

The financial package is the only reason it might be viable, but I don't see Mancini as being at the point in his managerial career where he's willing to put aside success and trophies for a big cash payment.

Depends upon what his other options were to be honest. Lets for one minute imagine that he really felt he was going to be out of a job in the summer ... there weren't that many options around. The Russian job ? A potential move back to Italy? Or three years in Monaco being backed by another billionaire. I can see the appeal ... even for an ambitious guy like Mancini it'd be tempting if the owner was willing to back you to challenge PSG too ...
 
I wonder how Mancini would feel if the shoe were on the other foot.

Oh wait - it was in his last job and he threw his toys out of the pram and quit.
 
BillyShears said:
I wonder how Mancini would feel if the shoe were on the other foot.

Oh wait - it was in his last job and he threw his toys out of the pram and quit.
I'm not sure I see the point of this post.
 
If I was in Roberto's shoes at that point in his career, I would likewise have been tempted to listen to potential offers. More surprising is the revelation that RVP reportedly turned down an offer of 300K per week at Eastlands before joining Manure. What a daft bugger.
 
SWP's back said:
BillyShears said:
I wonder how Mancini would feel if the shoe were on the other foot.

Oh wait - it was in his last job and he threw his toys out of the pram and quit.
I'm not sure I see the point of this post.

I'm curious whether he'd be as full of humour had the story been that City were talking to Pep/Mourinho. Particularly when he ostensibly resigned from Inter because he got wind that Moratti was talking to Mourinho. To be honest, as I said earlier, I really wish City's media department would stamp on shit like this. Of course behind the scenes managers, players, are always looking at their options outside of where they are. But this smacks of having a pop at City, making Mancini look a bit small time, and as such we should have come down on it like a ton of bricks.
 
lionheart said:
If I was in Roberto's shoes at that point in his career, I would likewise have been tempted to listen to potential offers. More surprising is the revelation that RVP reportedly turned down an than offer of 300K per week at Eastlands before joining Manure. What a daft bugger.

300k what am interesting number the same as Shrek 2 (the new improved hairy release) apparently gets paid. Hmm
 

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