Mancini and Milner

Bluemoon115 said:
Ntini77 said:
Shit management or not, Milner is an extremely limited player.
Agreed.

I don't know what Hughes was thinking when he signed him.

Rag ****.

Oh, wait...
What's happened to you? I used to like you as a poster and thought you posted a lot of good stuff, recently though you keep bringing Hughes up. Forget him he's gone, you may say you only post about him when others bring him up but in the post above no one said anything about Hughes yet you still brought him up. Strange.....
I thought Milner was our best player yesterday and certainly wouldn't have took him off
 
manimanc said:
fuck me here we again,to get 20 odd attempts against a team with 10 men behind the ball says something,on any other day shots would go in and goals would be scored. Anybody looked at the table tonight? in case people can`t focus through their negativity and anti mancini blinkers WE ARE FOURTH!!!!! yep,a shitty,crappy,very poor fourth place in what is turning out to be an indifferent season so far for every club. Bolton are fifth for fuck sake,fuckin bolton! So i stand to be corrected by the statos on here when i say HAVE WE PLAYED THE SAME FIRST 11 EVERY GAME? I do believe the answer is a big,fat nope. Whether that be through injury,suspension,form,illness etc..we havn`t,in my opinion,had a settled 11 since the start of the season,so mancini has had to juggle and fuck about with formations whilst chelsea and arsenal and maybe united and possibly spurs have had a near enough,bar 1 or 2,settled team. look at the table boys and girls,look where we are and look where we will be when we get a settled 11,believe me we`re sitting quite nicely and yes upto now it seems that everybody is dropping points when they shouldn`t and gaining points when they have no right to.....i`m looking at the fact of 3 clean sheets,undefeated in 3 games and the fact that teams above us have got to get points off eachother yet...mancini hasn`t even been in the job a year yet the abuse he gets is pathetic. If you want to judge him do it next may,as i will when we get that champions league spot and hail the man as a great manager...it`s a marathon not a sprint,get off the guys back and fuckin get behind him...


Wish all blues had your sense reading bluemoon this morning i think most of our support is still breast feeding .
If i were our owners reading some of the drivel on here i would not spend another penny on such a moaning bunch of wankers most of them sound like spoilt rags and at least they gave fergie 4 yrs
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
Bluemoon115 said:
Agreed.

I don't know what Hughes was thinking when he signed him.

Rag ****.

Oh, wait...
What's happened to you? I used to like you as a poster and thought you posted a lot of good stuff, recently though you keep bringing Hughes up. Forget him he's gone, you may say you only post about him when others bring him up but in the post above no one said anything about Hughes yet you still brought him up. Strange.....
I thought Milner was our best player yesterday and certainly wouldn't have took him off
Frustration more than anything pal.

I like Milner as well, I thought he was a brilliant central midfielder last season. Which is why for the life of me I can't understand this obsession with him as a left winger. There were any number of wide players we could have gone for if that's what we wanted, but this decision baffles me.

Regarding Hughes, by the end of his tenure I was fully supportive of the decision to sack him. But he was sacked because he wasn't good enough. That doesn't make him, or his results, the benchmark, or even close. We need to be better, and for me, there are too many parallels between his reign and the current (not learning from mistakes, inability to turn a game, settling for a point, instance on playing out of form players, talking a good game, overemphasis one one area while negecting another (Under Hughes it was all attack no defend, under Mancini all defend no attack)). I don't feel that, based on what we've seen at City alone, Mancini is THAT much of an improvement.

I don't for one minute want Hughes back, but for some, the mere fact that Mancini isn't Hughes seems to be a good enough reason to keep him.
 
spanishblue said:
manimanc said:
fuck me here we again,to get 20 odd attempts against a team with 10 men behind the ball says something,on any other day shots would go in and goals would be scored. Anybody looked at the table tonight? in case people can`t focus through their negativity and anti mancini blinkers WE ARE FOURTH!!!!! yep,a shitty,crappy,very poor fourth place in what is turning out to be an indifferent season so far for every club. Bolton are fifth for fuck sake,fuckin bolton! So i stand to be corrected by the statos on here when i say HAVE WE PLAYED THE SAME FIRST 11 EVERY GAME? I do believe the answer is a big,fat nope. Whether that be through injury,suspension,form,illness etc..we havn`t,in my opinion,had a settled 11 since the start of the season,so mancini has had to juggle and fuck about with formations whilst chelsea and arsenal and maybe united and possibly spurs have had a near enough,bar 1 or 2,settled team. look at the table boys and girls,look where we are and look where we will be when we get a settled 11,believe me we`re sitting quite nicely and yes upto now it seems that everybody is dropping points when they shouldn`t and gaining points when they have no right to.....i`m looking at the fact of 3 clean sheets,undefeated in 3 games and the fact that teams above us have got to get points off eachother yet...mancini hasn`t even been in the job a year yet the abuse he gets is pathetic. If you want to judge him do it next may,as i will when we get that champions league spot and hail the man as a great manager...it`s a marathon not a sprint,get off the guys back and fuckin get behind him...


Wish all blues had your sense reading bluemoon this morning i think most of our support is still breast feeding .
If i were our owners reading some of the drivel on here i would not spend another penny on such a moaning bunch of wankers most of them sound like spoilt rags and at least they gave fergie 4 yrs

Well said you two.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
Failsworth_Blue said:
What's happened to you? I used to like you as a poster and thought you posted a lot of good stuff, recently though you keep bringing Hughes up. Forget him he's gone, you may say you only post about him when others bring him up but in the post above no one said anything about Hughes yet you still brought him up. Strange.....
I thought Milner was our best player yesterday and certainly wouldn't have took him off
Frustration more than anything pal.

I like Milner as well, I thought he was a brilliant central midfielder last season. Which is why for the life of me I can't understand this obsession with him as a left winger. There were any number of wide players we could have gone for if that's what we wanted, but this decision baffles me.

Regarding Hughes, by the end of his tenure I was fully supportive of the decision to sack him. But he was sacked because he wasn't good enough. That doesn't make him, or his results, the benchmark, or even close. We need to be better, and for me, there are too many parallels between his reign and the current (not learning from mistakes, inability to turn a game, settling for a point, instance on playing out of form players, talking a good game, overemphasis one one area while negecting another (Under Hughes it was all attack no defend, under Mancini all defend no attack)). I don't feel that, based on what we've seen at City alone, Mancini is THAT much of an improvement.

I don't for one minute want Hughes back, but for some, the mere fact that Mancini isn't Hughes seems to be a good enough reason to keep him.
Fair enough mate, I can certainly see where your coming from and the comparisons with Hughes are only going to keep happening should we get beat on Sunday. I too think Milner needs to be playing through the middle and thought the team selection yesterday was set up for him to do was a bit disappointed that he didn't play through the middle. I think we are doing alright at the moment but yesterdays result obviously isn't good enough and we need to improve no doubt about it starting on Sunday. I still have faith in Mancini but realise that parts of his management need to improve and I hope they do
 
Joycee Banercheck said:
Calm down. We had over 20 rip roaring shots at goal. Foster didn't know what had hit him such was our fluid attacking force. We kept another clean sheet too. Rome want built in a century...
love it mate,a positive post from you...more i say,more...clap clap clap...
 
CityForever45 said:
Milner dramatically improved his game when martin o'neil moved him in the center of the field in a 4-4-2 formation. Now as a winger he's back to be the good but not exceptional player he was when he was playing in that position. I think it sums it well by saying that the best game he played this year was the first day of the season with still the Villa shirt on as a central midfielder.

Fuckin hell 1st post and you sir are spot on , it does not alter the fact that Millner is a boring ****

MCFC OK
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
Bluemoon115 said:
Frustration more than anything pal.

I like Milner as well, I thought he was a brilliant central midfielder last season. Which is why for the life of me I can't understand this obsession with him as a left winger. There were any number of wide players we could have gone for if that's what we wanted, but this decision baffles me.

Regarding Hughes, by the end of his tenure I was fully supportive of the decision to sack him. But he was sacked because he wasn't good enough. That doesn't make him, or his results, the benchmark, or even close. We need to be better, and for me, there are too many parallels between his reign and the current (not learning from mistakes, inability to turn a game, settling for a point, instance on playing out of form players, talking a good game, overemphasis one one area while negecting another (Under Hughes it was all attack no defend, under Mancini all defend no attack)). I don't feel that, based on what we've seen at City alone, Mancini is THAT much of an improvement.

I don't for one minute want Hughes back, but for some, the mere fact that Mancini isn't Hughes seems to be a good enough reason to keep him.
Fair enough mate, I can certainly see where your coming from and the comparisons with Hughes are only going to keep happening should we get beat on Sunday. I too think Milner needs to be playing through the middle and thought the team selection yesterday was set up for him to do was a bit disappointed that he didn't play through the middle. I think we are doing alright at the moment but yesterdays result obviously isn't good enough and we need to improve no doubt about it starting on Sunday. I still have faith in Mancini but realise that parts of his management need to improve and I hope they do
Aye. And the fact that we are 4th means that for all my ranting and raving, I accept that things are still OK.

I just think we've missed a great opportunity to put a whole lot of breathing space between ourselves and those from 5th below, because of basic errors that keep repeating themselves.

And like you, I don't want Mancini out, I want him to be better, by learning when things don't go to plan.
 
manimanc said:
fuck me here we again,to get 20 odd attempts against a team with 10 men behind the ball says something,on any other day shots would go in and goals would be scored.
What were these 20-odd attempts? There was Tevez's disallowed goal and Milner's shot off the line. There was Barry's very weak shot late on. Those were the only two that I recall where we troubled Birmingham.

I do remember quite a lot of attempts that would have got us 3 points in rugby or went miles wide.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
manimanc said:
fuck me here we again,to get 20 odd attempts against a team with 10 men behind the ball says something,on any other day shots would go in and goals would be scored.
What were these 20-odd attempts? There was Tevez's disallowed goal and Milner's shot off the line. There was Barry's very weak shot late on. Those were the only two that I recall where we troubled Birmingham.

I do remember quite a lot of attempts that would have got us 3 points in rugby or went miles wide.

yeah, exactly, people look at stats and go "Oh look that means we played well and created loads and were just unlucky", no we didn't play well, all it shows was that we were incredibly toothless in creating real goalscoring opportunities and when we did we wasted them, so that automatically shows that we didn't play at all well.
 

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