Mancini 'arrogant and vain'

The cookie monster said:
strongbowholic said:
We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?
Vicky Kloss wants throwing out of the main entrance head fucking first
An embarrassing waste of space.
Wouldn't go that far mate, but there certainly seems to be a real need to refocus and redouble efforts where the press are concerned.

The current strategy (in my eyes) is not working - unless of course the current strategy is to be where we are now with them so that we can leak stories to smear people when we feel the need, in which case it seems to be working wonderfully well.

All the time, we hear "the Arab way of doing business...." and "in Abu Dhabi, image is paramount...." and such and such. I just can't see how in any way, shape or form what we are doing now fits in with this ethos?

This end of season review of the club needs to encompass how we handle the press, again in my opinion.
 
MSP said:
Didsbury Dave said:
strongbowholic said:
We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky Kloss has done a briefing or two (Ladyman's story for one), the stories will come out from other sources, indeed they are doing.

Our playing staff have been very professional over the last couple of years, keeping most of their gripes with MAncini in-house. If this turns into a war of words or one of them goes public it could get really nasty.

The truth is, Mancini made a lot of enemies and if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.
Or alternatively this keeps going on a slow boil like it is so far with people making accusations the club is trying to assassinate the former manager's character and it rebounds in how the press treats the next manager as they'll not only expect to see him constantly smiling, but he'll also be expected to give daily handjobs to everyone whilst winning the treble without a single loss. Otherwise, you end up where we're likely headed if this keeps on the slow boil it is currently.
 
MSP said:
Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

So what should club do now, leave it in a wild or leave itself withthe image it got from Mancini's "I don't know nothing, I've gave them all and they're stabbing me in the back" portrait or do a bit of work to change that a bit.

I know what I'd do.
Indeed. Mancini says "they stabbed me in the back" and we address that by saying "no, he was a ****, and here's some juicy titbits to prove that" further stabbing him in the back and thus, inadvertently giving credence to Mancini's stance.

It's all so very playground.
 
i have heard countless times from people on tv and the press how hosipitable city are to journalists and members of the media, one of if not the best.
We get repaid by being shat on! The scum definitely got something right by kicking every fucker out and banning people left right and centre for printing shit
 
She's at every press conference and let's these tossers the press run fucking riot
And she's def behind the shit slinging what's currently going on
I wouldn't pay her in smarties tops
Get someone in who's stronger and takes no shit off the press.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
strongbowholic said:
We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky Kloss has done a briefing or two (Ladyman's story for one), the stories will come out from other sources, indeed they are doing.

Our playing staff have been very professional over the last couple of years, keeping most of their gripes with MAncini in-house. If this turns into a war of words or one of them goes public it could get really nasty.

The truth is, Mancini made a lot of enemies and if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

City should and need to keep it in house. Everyone looks like dicks otherwise. I thought Herbert's two pieces were excellent as they attempt to get to the character of Mancini and Mancini's character is something I always found fascinating.

His bit about the initial Mancini negotiations were City went in confident given they were talking to someone who was out of work and ended with City wondering how Mancini had got pretty much everything he wanted makes City look like rubes. It's no surprise that Mancini built a small Roman empire at City as no one could stand up to him until Ferran walked in with Txiki.

Herbert aside it just comes across as whining ie Ogden reporting that players were getting frustrated by Mancini's obsessive attention to even the smallest defensive detail which in the context of the best defensive record for the last 3 seasons looks pathetic.

Take a leaf out of Ferran's book on keeping things in-house. The more we try and point the finger at Mancini the more pathetic we will also look.
 
strongbowholic said:
MSP said:
Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

So what should club do now, leave it in a wild or leave itself withthe image it got from Mancini's "I don't know nothing, I've gave them all and they're stabbing me in the back" portrait or do a bit of work to change that a bit.

I know what I'd do.
Indeed. Mancini says "they stabbed me in the back" and we address that by saying "no, he was a ****, and here's some juicy titbits to prove that" further stabbing him in the back and thus, inadvertently giving credence to Mancini's stance.

It's all so very playground.
And I guarantee that Mancini has been paid to keep silent as NDAs are standard. So if this is accurate and we're going around leaking little pieces of "Oh that Mancini was a horrible, arrogant twat!" stories and Mancini keeps quiet, then it won't be long before the press inevitably... let me capitalize that for emphasis... INEVITABLY decides the way to sell papers/ad space is to print The Other Side of the Story, ie how poor Mancini is being good and silent and professional and Evil City is trashing him by leaking stories. Yay.
 
taconinja said:
MSP said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky Kloss has done a briefing or two (Ladyman's story for one), the stories will come out from other sources, indeed they are doing.

Our playing staff have been very professional over the last couple of years, keeping most of their gripes with MAncini in-house. If this turns into a war of words or one of them goes public it could get really nasty.

The truth is, Mancini made a lot of enemies and if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.
Or alternatively this keeps going on a slow boil like it is so far with people making accusations the club is trying to assassinate the former manager's character and it rebounds in how the press treats the next manager as they'll not only expect to see him constantly smiling, but he'll also be expected to give daily handjobs to everyone whilst winning the treble without a single loss. Otherwise, you end up where we're likely headed if this keeps on the slow boil it is currently.

You can not leave it in a wild. Media will write about it, it's huge news. SO you better make some work to protect your interests than not.

I don't think it's harsh at all, most people have read and knew already that it's not really wonderful life between Mancini and many people he worked with so I can't see a point of disturbance here, any smart business would do it.
 
For 30 years I worked in the oil fields of Libya.Ghadaffi was my boss,He never said "Hallo" every morning,or "Good night" at the end of a shift,pehaps he had more on his mind than whether I had enough Daz/Persil to clean my overalls.Just a thought.
 
MSP said:
Didsbury Dave said:
strongbowholic said:
We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky Kloss has done a briefing or two (Ladyman's story for one), the stories will come out from other sources, indeed they are doing.

Our playing staff have been very professional over the last couple of years, keeping most of their gripes with MAncini in-house. If this turns into a war of words or one of them goes public it could get really nasty.

The truth is, Mancini made a lot of enemies and if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

So what should club do now, leave it in a wild or leave itself withthe image it got from Mancini's "I don't know nothing, I've gave them all and they're stabbing me in the back" portrait or do a bit of work to change that a bit.

I know what I'd do.

Whilst it's easy to think of Vicky Kloss getting her revenge for the humiliation MAncini gave her on Saturday, I don't think for a second she'll be making any decisions herself.

I actually think the negative stories are coming out regardless. Several stories reporting the players were jubilant, several close-to-City journalists letting things slip they've probably been hearing for years.
 

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