Mancini 'arrogant and vain'

[BobKowalski]

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

So what should club do now, leave it in a wild or leave itself withthe image it got from Mancini's "I don't know nothing, I've gave them all and they're stabbing me in the back" portrait or do a bit of work to change that a bit.

I know what I'd do.

Indeed. Mancini says "they stabbed me in the back" and we address that by saying "no, he was a ****, and here's some juicy titbits to prove that" further stabbing him in the back and thus, inadvertently giving credence to Mancini's stance.

It's all so very playground.

And I guarantee that Mancini has been paid to keep silent as NDAs are standard. So if this is accurate and we're going around leaking little pieces of "Oh that Mancini was a horrible, arrogant twat!" stories and Mancini keeps quiet, then it won't be long before the press inevitably... let me capitalize that for emphasis... INEVITABLY decides the way to sell papers/ad space is to print The Other Side of the Story, ie how poor Mancini is being good and silent and professional and Evil City is trashing him by leaking stories. Yay.

Bang on the money.

 

[MSP]

Indeed. Mancini says "they stabbed me in the back" and we address that by saying "no, he was a ****, and here's some juicy titbits to prove that" further stabbing him in the back and thus, inadvertently giving credence to Mancini's stance.

It's all so very playground.

And I guarantee that Mancini has been paid to keep silent as NDAs are standard. So if this is accurate and we're going around leaking little pieces of "Oh that Mancini was a horrible, arrogant twat!" stories and Mancini keeps quiet, then it won't be long before the press inevitably... let me capitalize that for emphasis... INEVITABLY decides the way to sell papers/ad space is to print The Other Side of the Story, ie how poor Mancini is being good and silent and professional and Evil City is trashing him by leaking stories. Yay.

Bang on the money.

Or club maybe made a deal in settlement process with Mancini that it will leak certain info so the image stuff would be kinda even.

You guys think that people who run City are unprofessional and idiots, I don't. I'd rather give them to run my business, then to you.

 

[Anonymous]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

 

[TGR]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

And the smear campaign goes on....

 

[taconinja]

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

Or alternatively this keeps going on a slow boil like it is so far with people making accusations the club is trying to assassinate the former manager's character and it rebounds in how the press treats the next manager as they'll not only expect to see him constantly smiling, but he'll also be expected to give daily handjobs to everyone whilst winning the treble without a single loss. Otherwise, you end up where we're likely headed if this keeps on the slow boil it is currently.

You can not leave it in a wild. Media will write about it, it's huge news. SO you better make some work to protect your interests than not.

I don't think it's harsh at all, most people have read and knew already that it's not really wonderful life between Mancini and many people he worked with so I can't see a point of disturbance here, any smart business would do it.

Because that isn't how the press works. You neither want to keep silent, nor do you want to run non-discreet smear campaigns.

I'll be frank. I don't care if you think it's harmless because you fairly well despised Mancini. The club could leak that he boiled babies for his lunch and you would nod along as it confirms what you want to hear.

You are not the target audience.

The target audience are all those undecided Blues and neutrals who might eventually become Blues and buy seats and/or merchandise. The club wants them to see the club as the protagonist. They want them to view the club positively. If the club is leaking this, then they're making a sucker's bet. Here's how the press works. They get bored after a story stops gaining traction with the audience. At that point, they have two alternatives. They can drop the story, and they will if something bigger comes along, or they can do what inevitably happens when something bigger doesn't come along (and hiring a new manager exacerbates the story and ties into the story. It doesn't preempt the story.) They'll write the other side.

Everyone talks about agendas. The press has one agenda. Sell shit. They'll do whatever it takes to sell shit. Writing about City firing a manager sells shit. Writing about Mancini being not-so-nice sells shit. Writing about City wrongfully persecuting a title-winning manager sells shit.

Again, you are not the target audience.

 

[BobKowalski]

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if Vicky Kloss has done a briefing or two (Ladyman's story for one), the stories will come out from other sources, indeed they are doing.

Our playing staff have been very professional over the last couple of years, keeping most of their gripes with MAncini in-house. If this turns into a war of words or one of them goes public it could get really nasty.

The truth is, Mancini made a lot of enemies and if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

Mancini sacked by City is huge story, the story that media will write about.

So what you want to do is give them some soft info and have the story that protects your interests without being too harsh rather than leave it in a wild.

So what should club do now, leave it in a wild or leave itself withthe image it got from Mancini's "I don't know nothing, I've gave them all and they're stabbing me in the back" portrait or do a bit of work to change that a bit.

I know what I'd do.

Whilst it's easy to think of Vicky Kloss getting her revenge for the humiliation MAncini gave her on Saturday, I don't think for a second she'll be making any decisions herself.

I actually think the negative stories are coming out regardless. Several stories reporting the players were jubilant, several close-to-City journalists letting things slip they've probably been hearing for years.

So player power did for Mancini becomes the story (it didn't the players just dumped one alpha dog for the new alpha dog who ranked a bit higher). City are the new Chelsea becomes the narrative and unless the players are happily hugging Pellegrini every other day that will become the narrative for Pellegrini along with can he match Mancini's success to save his job blah, blah.

It may all be bollocks but the media loves a narrative

 

[MSP]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

Of course it's not revenge, it's pure business decision.

It's multihundred million business, they don't give a shit about emotions like crybabies here do.

 

[Anonymous]

And I guarantee that Mancini has been paid to keep silent as NDAs are standard. So if this is accurate and we're going around leaking little pieces of "Oh that Mancini was a horrible, arrogant twat!" stories and Mancini keeps quiet, then it won't be long before the press inevitably... let me capitalize that for emphasis... INEVITABLY decides the way to sell papers/ad space is to print The Other Side of the Story, ie how poor Mancini is being good and silent and professional and Evil City is trashing him by leaking stories. Yay.

Bang on the money.

Or club maybe made a deal in settlement process with Mancini that it will leak certain info so the image stuff would be kinda even.

You really think that? You thimnk someone would agree to have their reputation smeared as part of a settlement?

Pint of what you're on please.

 

[BobKowalski]

Or alternatively this keeps going on a slow boil like it is so far with people making accusations the club is trying to assassinate the former manager's character and it rebounds in how the press treats the next manager as they'll not only expect to see him constantly smiling, but he'll also be expected to give daily handjobs to everyone whilst winning the treble without a single loss. Otherwise, you end up where we're likely headed if this keeps on the slow boil it is currently.

You can not leave it in a wild. Media will write about it, it's huge news. SO you better make some work to protect your interests than not.

I don't think it's harsh at all, most people have read and knew already that it's not really wonderful life between Mancini and many people he worked with so I can't see a point of disturbance here, any smart business would do it.

Because that isn't how the press works. You neither want to keep silent, nor do you want to run non-discreet smear campaigns.

I'll be frank. I don't care if you think it's harmless because you fairly well despised Mancini. The club could leak that he boiled babies for his lunch and you would nod along as it confirms what you want to hear.

You are not the target audience.

The target audience are all those undecided Blues and neutrals who might eventually become Blues and buy seats and/or merchandise. The club wants them to see the club as the protagonist. They want them to view the club positively. If the club is leaking this, then they're making a sucker's bet. Here's how the press works. They get bored after a story stops gaining traction with the audience. At that point, they have two alternatives. They can drop the story, and they will if something bigger comes along, or they can do what inevitably happens when something bigger doesn't come along (and hiring a new manager exacerbates the story and ties into the story. It doesn't preempt the story.) They'll write the other side.

Everyone talks about agendas. The press has one agenda. Sell shit. They'll do whatever it takes to sell shit. Writing about City firing a manager sells shit. Writing about Mancini being not-so-nice sells shit. Writing about City wrongfully persecuting a title-winning manager sells shit.

Again, you are not the target audience.

Bang on the fucking money x2

 

[taconinja]

And I guarantee that Mancini has been paid to keep silent as NDAs are standard. So if this is accurate and we're going around leaking little pieces of "Oh that Mancini was a horrible, arrogant twat!" stories and Mancini keeps quiet, then it won't be long before the press inevitably... let me capitalize that for emphasis... INEVITABLY decides the way to sell papers/ad space is to print The Other Side of the Story, ie how poor Mancini is being good and silent and professional and Evil City is trashing him by leaking stories. Yay.

Bang on the money.

Or club maybe made a deal in settlement process with Mancini that it will leak certain info so the image stuff would be kinda even.

You guys think that people who run City are unprofessional and idiots, I don't. I'd rather give them to run my business, then to you.

If you think City put it in writing that they're going to leak stories calling into question Mancini's character, I have no idea how to proceed. You seriously think they're going to have a smoking gun document like that sitting in a hot-headed ex-manager's hands? Seriously?