Mancini 'arrogant and vain'

[MSP]

The target audience are all those undecided Blues and neutrals who might eventually become Blues and buy seats and/or merchandise.

Undecided Blues are not target, they will be Blues either way but neutrals are.

That's why you don't let yourself to be portraited on the way Mancini's camp wanted but on the way you wanted.

I don't despise Mancini but I certainly don't feel City owe him anything that would be worth of making damages to itself or not trying to fix it. He's been handsomely paid for his job, emotions in businesses with such amounts of money included are minimal on the end of a day. And loyalty works both sides.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

His bit about the initial Mancini negotiations were City went in confident given they were talking to someone who was out of work and ended with City wondering how Mancini had got pretty much everything he wanted makes City look like rubes. It's no surprise that Mancini built a small Roman empire at City as no one could stand up to him until Ferran walked in with Txiki.

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Now I found this bit fascinating too, and a little strange. These were the days when Cook and Khaldoon were running the show so it's not wholly surprising. But it doesn't put City in a good light at all that he called the shots at a time when he shouldn't be.

What I believe is that Mancini's main ally, and towards the end probably his sole ally, was Khaldoon. And Khaldoon's unwavering, and sometimes irrational, faith in him allowed him to walk all over everyone and everything. I heard a story that when Adebayor was sold, there was an enormous bust up in the dressing room. Adebayor was crying that he hadn't been given a chance and that MAncini was alienating the players. Mancini got his mobile out and said "Tell it to Khaldoon", so ADebayor did, and was obviously told that Mancini's word was law, and Mancini just flounced out smugly. the person who told me the story said that Adebayor got a round of applause from the players after this exchange.

Not a hugely relevant story, and one which may even just be gossip. But it's one of dozens which have never seen the light of day and is indicative of the power Khaldoon gave to Mancini.

This is why I am delighted with the appointment of the Spanish duo. And, regardless of the messy nature of the sacking, if they get the right man in nice and smoothly now, they've delivered where it matters. They've seen through MAncini and got him out. The "way it's been handled", just like with Mark Hughes, in the medium to long term is a red herring.

 

[Anonymous]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

The thing is Billy, in my opinion, the way it is playing out it is coming across absolutely as petty revenge. I would rather they said nothing, or when challenged simply something along the lines of "Mancini is no longer the manager of Manchester City so no further comment will be made. As a club we have moved on, we suggest you do the same." or some such.

We are being told the club is feeding journos this information about Mancini being arrogant, hard to work with etc. What else is it then if it is not petty revenge? It's certainly unprofessional in my view and I thought we were bigger than that.

 

[Anonymous]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

Of course it's not revenge, it's pure business decision.

It's multihundred million business, they don't give a shit about emotions like crybabies here do.

Absolutely, and more importantly, it's a business decision based on making sure the characteristics which made Mancini totally unsuitable for the job regardless of success on the field are in the public domain. If you love Mancini and are hurt by his sacking, of course you're going to hate the notion that he's being criticised after being sacked. However if you're Abu Dhabi and you've paid the guy probably close to 20 million over three and a half years and are paying him out another ten million just to get rid of him, then you're going to want to make sure that in an audience driven business, your audience knows why the guy's been sacked, after he's spent the last six months playing the downtrodden victim of the nasty business that is football.

 

[taconinja]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

Of course it's not revenge, it's pure business decision.

It's multihundred million business, they don't give a shit about emotions like crybabies here do.

Multi-billion pound/dollar businesses manage situations. It has nothing to do with emotions... oh and go fuck yourself for implying I'm a crybaby... Anyway, you manage situations when you're a corporation. I part of a team that does that right now for a multi-million dollar business. You never want these things to drag on because eventually something will come out that harms your image. You want pictures of smiling, happy people enjoying the everloving shit out of themselves. You don't want disgruntled ex-employees on twitter attacking recent ex-employees.

 

[Anonymous]

We are being told the club is feeding journos this information about Mancini being arrogant, hard to work with etc. What else is it then if it is not petty revenge? It's certainly unprofessional in my view and I thought we were bigger than that.

I've just explained why they feel the need to do this - and you've completely ignored it. They're doing it because the world and their mother, and some fucking Blues as well, are going "just like Chelsea - one season without a trophy and he's been sacked - out of order - that's what's wrong with football today - no patience - etc. etc. etc.". When this WASN'T the case.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

Of course it's not revenge, it's pure business decision.

It's multihundred million business, they don't give a shit about emotions like crybabies here do.

Absolutely, and more importantly, it's a business decision based on making sure the characteristics which made Mancini totally unsuitable for the job regardless of success on the field are in the public domain. If you love Mancini and are hurt by his sacking, of course you're going to hate the notion that he's being criticised after being sacked. However if you're Abu Dhabi and you've paid the guy probably close to 20 million over three and a half years and are paying him out another ten million just to get rid of him, then you're going to want to make sure that in an audience driven business, your audience knows why the guy's been sacked, after he's spent the last six months playing the downtrodden victim of the nasty business that is football.

And thus, Billy nails it.

Too many people seeing this through the "Cuddly Old Saint Bob" prism.

He's been happy to use the fucking media all year to suit his agenda. And loads of you fell for it hook line and sinker. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[Balti]

We were told loads more stuff would come out about Mancini once he'd gone - and boy were they right. Posted elsewhere about certain journos talking of a smear campaign by City's PR people against Mancini.

Two wrongs seemingly make a right in their world.

In my opinion that shows a distinct lack of professionalism. Simply close ranks and move on would have been the easier option surely rather than petty revenge?

I don't think the people at City go in for petty revenge ... however it's fair to say they are taking quite a beating for their decision to sack Mancini - both from certain segments of our support, and from the wider media in general.

It doesn't surprise in the face of this, that the club want to at least redress the balance in terms of filtering out what Mancini was actually like to work with and to work alongside - after all that played a big factor in his sacking and it was said often enough "nobody knows what goes on behind the scenes, you can't prove the players don't like Mancini blah blah blah". Well I guess in the coming days we'll all know what he was like behind the scenes and why had to be sacked, even putting aside results on the pitch.

Personally I don't think we've heard the last of it. I suspect a few more home truths are going to come out before the new man is officially unveiled.

The thing is Billy, in my opinion, the way it is playing out it is coming across absolutely as petty revenge. I would rather they said nothing, or when challenged simply something along the lines of "Mancini is no longer the manager of Manchester City so no further comment will be made. As a club we have moved on, we suggest you do the same." or some such.

We are being told the club is feeding journos this information about Mancini being arrogant, hard to work with etc. What else is it then if it is not petty revenge? It's certainly unprofessional in my view and I thought we were bigger than that.

My sentiments exactly and this whole sordid episode highlights the fact that there is another aspect of the club that still requires a whacking great upgrade....

 

[Bluebee2]

Roberto Mancini 'arrogant and vain' says former Manchester City kit man

Presumably he's happier now at Sunderland working under di Canio .. who I'm sure will be pleased to hear that his kit-man can't stomach working for angry, egotistical, emotional, arrogant Italians.

The point is non of the backroom staff liked Mancini, they all can't be wrong !

 

[MSP]

Bang on the money.

Or club maybe made a deal in settlement process with Mancini that it will leak certain info so the image stuff would be kinda even.

You guys think that people who run City are unprofessional and idiots, I don't. I'd rather give them to run my business, then to you.

If you think City put it in writing that they're going to leak stories calling into question Mancini's character, I have no idea how to proceed. You seriously think they're going to have a smoking gun document like that sitting in a hot-headed ex-manager's hands? Seriously?

Mancini's character is barely broken, most of people out of the Bobby's world heard something about it before, he probably already has his new job and what was written in the news will be forgotten in few weeks.

You guys obviously think that Mancini got everything he wanted while City was poor kid out there waiting to be slaughtered. I don't.