Mancini (cont)

[FantasyIreland]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

 

[Skashion]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

but our team is looking a lot more solid thanks to hughes.

So i take it MH is the dogs danglies now??

All those clueless turds who wanted him out should be fuckin ashamed!

They should should they?

 

[samharris]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

would you call someone retarded or mentally handicapped ?? No of course not,so please stop sticking up for someone who did.

we all know what lines not to cross,and whoever does is out of order..
dethred was out of order..

 

[pudge]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

Then why don't you start debating the topic at hand instead of individual posters (the irony being you've just stated to be against that.)

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Billy liar..has a ring to it.:) Dont you get fed up posting shite about people that you cant back up ?? Find one post about me refering to other managers..

And try not to get all hissy as usual... you old woman.

Careful mate-He may have another bluemoon meltdown as he did a few weeks ago when he caused the thread to be locked down for a while.
Nothing will ever convince Billy about Mancini. It is his number one passion in life and until Mancini is gone he will never ever be happy. I think he will be oh so unhappy this summer when Mancini has lifted yet another trophy for us and cemented 2nd place in the league. Billy I dont think I am talking out of place here but you are judging Mancini on defeats at Everton,Sunderland and out shocking european adventure..Malaga had a good european adventure didnt they,but are going to win the sum total of fuck all this season.

I really do not understand comments like this.

Do people really believe that a City fan would be anything other than happy at winning a trophy just because the man in charge isn't their preferred choice.

It just doesn't compute.

I've seen many a garbage manager control Oldham and I've wanted them out weekend after weekend, yet not once I have ever been disappointed should he lead us to a victory on a Saturday afternoon (however rare a victory is), let alone lift a trophy!

It's a rubbish insult and one that just doesn't compute.

Any sane football fan with any level of maturity feels the same way, of course.

I think for some it's like an idolization thing...the sort of men who walk round with player's names on their backs, or asking players for photos, that kind of thing. Football support is about the hero worship of the individuals involved for them.

So you get weird comments like calling people "haters" and saying they want the club to lose and all of that guff. It's easy to just dismiss these as kid's comments but you have to realise that some adults have a similar philosophy.

 

[samharris]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

Isnt that what I did...I expressed an opinion ??

 

[Danamy]

I am saying anyone should be allowed to express an opinion without fear of abuse/threats or intimidation.

The topic is for debate......

would you call someone retarded or mentally handicapped ?? No of course not,so please stop sticking up for someone who did.

we all know what lines not to cross,and whoever does is out of order..
dethred was out of order..

If you think he/she's out of order hit the report post button, it will then get looked at by a Mod

 

[BobKowalski]

I'm very surprised so many people think that an FA Cup win or beating the rags will have such a big impact on Mancini's overall fate. Personally I still believe the decision will be made based on his ability to work with the new director of football and to a lesser extent on his capacity to get the best out of his players. What the last month has shown is that the players seemingly turn it on and off (Everton v Rags/Chelsea performances), when they feel like it under Mancini. More than anything what I've taken from these performances is that it's clear our squad is good enough to have won the league this season, our players are good enough to have competed in the CL better than they did, and that moving forward our squad needs a tweak rather than an overhaul.

With respect to Mancini's position, it still confounds me that City have remained totally silent and are seemingly happy for us to be linked with a host of new managers without once saying either publicly or privately in categorical terms - Mancini will be manager next season. It's not hard to do and it would have put this thread to bed, certainly with respect to his potential sacking, if not with the discussions surrounding his perceived weaknesses as a manager.

How many other clubs linked with a possible new manager come out and deny it ??

If City had to deny everything that was written about them there would be no time for football.

Considering the amount of hand wringing and whining from you alone about the managers being linked with the City job, it would be remiss of me to not at least point out that City could easily quash the speculation. Whether you like it or not, the reason City haven't is because they don't want to - which is why we've had players saying they have no idea if Mancini will stay, and Mancini pleading his case via the media about how his players have let him down, the board let him down last summer etc.

Plenty of arguments to support Mancini getting another season IMO- but not many if any credible ones for the wall of silence that has been put up by City with regards to the manager's future. When even the players are being kept in the dark IMO that can only mean at the very least his future is being considered and isn't at all assured.

I said this before but I can only recall two incidences of City under ADUG publicly backing the manager. The first was Hughes via Cook shortly before they sacked him - not the greatest precedent. The second was around last October when they said that the appointment of Ferran & Txiki did not mean they were intending to replace Mancini with Pep. And we know how well that worked.

During his first half season we had countless stories about how Mancini was going to be replaced in the summer and he was only a stop gap appointment. No one at the club denied this or said anything publicly to stop the speculation. We were told Mancini's only chance at staying for the following season was a top 4 spot and it was still only a chance with no guarantees. We didn't get a top 4 spot and Mancini (gasp) wasn't moved on as everyone confidently predicted.

Next season was the same. Football was crap. Players hated him. Should be challenging for the title. Mourinho was set to replace him (also Capello at one point) and City didn't say one damn word. No vote of confidence. No Mancini is here for the long term. Nothing. Squat. Mancini stayed.

Title winning season nothing public except a brief comment during a low point from Sheikh Mansour who said Mancini was doing a good job and would be retained if we finished second. No one was convinced and even Roberto figured it would be prudent to look at alternative options just in case it went totally tits up. Which it did. For Man U.

So now its the summer of 2012 and its a 5 year contract and (quelle surprise) 3 months later we had Mancini to be replaced by Pep and after Pep it was (insert name of choice).

In 3 and a half years of Mancini's tenure the media have continually speculated that he is on the verge of being sacked or, just to vary things up, on the verge of walking out. City by contrast have kept their own counsel.

We can all read what we want into the silence. The media certainly do and seem to be continually disappointed we don't run around sacking managers every 6 months so that they can run endless stories about rich foreigners not understanding the game yada, yada but the silence means nothing with regard to Mancini staying or going. Just as statements backing the manager mean nothing. Just ask Mark Hughes.

 

[Phil1]

Great week for Mancini who was without doubt under immense pressure going into the Utd game. Two fantastic performances later, which included out thinking the piss can on his own doorstep and taking the European champions apart for a good 70 out of 90 minutes will hopefully ensure he is still in charge come the first game of next season.
Being a simple fan, weekends like the one I've just experienced and another on the horizon is what dreams are made of. Memories that will stay with me forever surrounded by a sea of fellow blues smiling and enjoying themselves, I honestly couldn't ask for more.
Is it possible that we could do it with somebody else in charge? Of course it is, but for me, doing it with Mancini just seems right.
Of course football isn't as simple as that and I have to accept that things may be different behind the scenes, but whatever happens I'll never hold Mancini in anything but high regard.

 

[chesterguy]

I think for some it's like an idolization thing...the sort of men who walk round with player's names on their backs, or asking players for photos, that kind of thing. Football support is about the hero worship of the individuals involved for them.

You keep stating this that people who want to keep Mancini want him sainted or idolised. This is simply not true I and I think many others do not want a change of manager because there are no guarantees that by changing the manager things would improve

What we do know is that with the manager we have got we have won a Premier league, an FA cup a community shield, have reached another FA cup final and are challenging for the league albeit with little chance of winning it.

Those results lead me to believe that the man in charge deserves to keep his job. Clearly mistakes have been made both in recruitment of players and European performances but these do not outweigh the positives IMHO

Billy keeps mentioning that City haven't come out in support and they wont til the review at the end of the year but as I posted earlier the observer reported that Soriano agrees that this recruitment issue was the nub of the problem. And if anyone thinks that Mancini has only started moaning about the quality of players have a look at the reports in August 2012 when he was bemoaning the lack of quality players bought by the club