NipHolmes said:
How do you work this out?
They are in a domestic up final the same as us, but they are semi finalists in the Champions League! Hardly marginal is it?
They have a better squad but lets not twist truths to suit here.
As for their league, imo it's filled with much more talent and teams actually play to win. Here the objective for many clubs is defend a point and try to pinch the other 2. Get to 40 points and seasons a success. Any cup runs are a bonus but league is first and foremost. In Spain it's different, you will see Sociedad and Betis for example completely take the game to Real or Barca, that's what football is meant to be played like.
People think our league is best because they are told it's best and are to ignorant to compare themselves. Bundesliga is equally as exciting and have two teams of better quality than us and United. Spain itself is a hotbed of talent, they have teams playing good football from bottom team to the top. The only problem is how the mobney is distributed, if the evened it up it'd make the league even better!
Athletico are over achieving for the squad strength but their best eleven is a match to anyones. Bilbao thrashed United, Athletico battered Chelsea in the Super Cup and they won the UEFA Cup. Both Spanish teams are in the semis of CL final. I think that justifies my high ranking of their league.
firstly, it wasn't a swipe at your post, I was playing with some statistical analysis this morning and did some on football because its more fun. Just thought it may be interesting.
So, I've only taken league positions into account, taking into account cup competitions will be hard to quantify, and well above my head.
However, I've worked it out through finding the "Z-Score" for both real, athletico, city and chelsea in their respective samples. The z-Score is found by subtracting the sample mean from the observation (for example, city have 68 points, the mean is 44.4 points) and dividing it by the standard deviation.
This gives you a figure which tells you how many standard deviations away from the mean your observation is.
Once you have this figure you can use a property table to find out what percentage of the any other possible observations fall below your found z-score.
I worked it out for both Chelsea and athletico, in athletico's league 92.5% fall below their score, and in ours, 86% fall below Chelsea's.
In the league, itself, Real are above 94.5% whereas we are above 94.1%
This method is good because it allows you to make comparisons between two independent samples.
note, i'm by no means an expert, but I had just finished playing around with it when I saw your post :-)
