Mancini in or out? *Update first page*

[blueinsa]

City win the FA Cup
City finish 4th

Then i still want Mancini OUT

If City want to make this real statement of intent. This must happen.

Agreed.

 

[allan harper]

City win the FA Cup
City finish 4th

Then i still want Mancini OUT

If City want to make this real statement of intent. This must happen.

 

[BlueHerts]

OUT......on the usual provisos

There is only 1 manager I believe out there who has the calibre to improve us and don't particularly feel I need to mention his name again. IF we don't make 4th and/or win the FA Cup and not until May but for God's sake if they do decide to do it, do it with a bit more PR savvy this time and not give the media vultures more to pick over.
Too many missed opportunities, 4th was a minimum requirement last season given Liverpool's implosion, 2nd or 3rd should be realistic this season given our squad strength and the fact that Chelsea, Arse and the rags have seemed intent on trying to fuck it up at various stages of the season....yet again we face a nail biting scramble for 4th with Spurs. Brilliant. Much as it seriously pains me to admit it, watching some of the piss poor performances by us this season has been like Pearce with a bank balance and the accusation that we are just being greedy and impatient if we want rid of Mancini is insulting and lazy....look at our squad, look at our investment and look at our competitors and tell me what the weak link is here. Our competitors have better managers.

 

[bluetoo]

Cliches are generally given bad press. Cliches are generally cliches cos theyre true.

How can you possibly agree or disagree with the job Mancini is doing when his plans havent been fully implemented? To me that suggests impatience to the point of being a spoiled brat and a severe lack of understanding of people, working relationships and how to develop a work in progress.

g)....makes sweeping generalisations against those that don't share his opinion.

Shall we agree to disagree and accept we have a different opinion or shall we try and do the whole alphabet?

Youre the one who keeps adding to it mate...lol....I'd be interested in what sweeping generalisations I've made about anyone.

IMO Mancini outers have an absence of any alternative plan that will guarantee us success. Not to mention the fact that we havent begun to see what this group of players and Mancini can actually achieve given a realistic period of time together to realise their potential.

 

[sweep]

Cliches are generally given bad press. Cliches are generally cliches cos theyre true.

How can you possibly agree or disagree with the job Mancini is doing when his plans havent been fully implemented? To me that suggests impatience to the point of being a spoiled brat and a severe lack of understanding of people, working relationships and how to develop a work in progress.

Makes me laugh this "spoilt brats" stuff. I hear it quite a bit on here from a certain type of poster.

I'd put it to you that people like you have no balanced, informed grasp on what has happened at City over the last 3 years, and are talking total rubbish to Blues with far more knowledge of the game and club than yourself.

I doubt you have any more knowledge than most blues of what goes on at the club, you sometimes allude to having inside knowledge but never show any signs of backing it up.

 

[blueinsa]

g)....makes sweeping generalisations against those that don't share his opinion.

Shall we agree to disagree and accept we have a different opinion or shall we try and do the whole alphabet?

Youre the one who keeps adding to it mate...lol....I'd be interested in what sweeping generalisations I've made about anyone.

IMO Mancini outers have an absence of any alternative plan that will guarantee us success. Not to mention the fact that we havent begun to see what this group of players and Mancini can actually achieve given a realistic period of time together to realise their potential.

;-)

I will counter what you have said by saying we have seen what this group of players is doing under Mancini and we think they are going backwards and that is a real worry.

We had the arguments last summer that next season we will see the real Mancini team and whilst league position remains on track with the target set, its the performances that has given so many of us the big worry and the very real fact that performances are just getting worse and worse. That is not a sign of a team needing time, its a sign of a team needing a rethink.

You cant just stick with someone because you are afraid that a replacement might also not get the job done, you just cant.

Mancini out for me. He hasn't got the game plan for the PL and i doubt he has the game plan for the big European stage, the reason he was replaced at Inter.

I want Mourinho but if he isn't available i still want Mancini out and the owners have to find a replacement.

Time waits for no man, plans are in place, big business plans are some what reliant and we have to succeed on the pitch and fast.

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

City win the FA Cup
City finish 4th

Then i still want Mancini OUT

If City want to make this real statement of intent. This must happen.

To me if we won the FA Cup and finished 4th, it wouldn't show a real statement of intent, it would be ridiculous. Basically we'd be sacking a manager who in his first full season in charge would have us finishing in the top four and will have won us a trophy for the first time in ages

If we finished 4th it'll mean that we've progressed under Mancini, progress is what we all want, some people expect more, some people are happy enough knowing 4th was the minimum expectation. If we finish 5th it's a different matter of course. Basically as it stands at this moment in time in comparison to last year, we are in a better position in terms of league position and are also closer to the top 3 than we were round about this time last season

A one place improvement might not seem a lot to some, maybe it isn't but to go from 5th to 4th is one thing but to jump from 5th and overhaul the likes of United, Chelsea and Arsenal is extremely tough. These are teams who at the start of the season has a squad of players who had been there for a number of seasons, they have a group of players who've been together for at least a couple of seasons, they'll have had time together to develop understanding of how each other players. To some this might not matter, to some it might be a little point but to me it's quite a big factor, basically what we've done is spend a lot of money on players over a short period of time, apart from De Jong, Kompany, Hart (Who was loaned out for one season), Richards and Zab we hardly have anyone in and around the first team who have been here for more than two seasons.

Do you think it's easy to sign a number of players, most of them who had not even had a pre season to get to know each other and expect them to understand each others game straight away? Not to mention that they have to understand the set up and thinking of the manager, how he wants them to play and where he wants them to play, things take time. I honestly believe next year with a couple of additions, we'll see a much better team, they've shown signs of how they can play as a team on numerous occasions this season and i believe with a full pre season behind them we'd progress against next season

We'd had a bit of a wobble of late both in terms of results and performances but so have United, Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal so it's not just us, it's about getting through this wobble and coming out at the end of if in 4th place, thats what matters, if we do that then for me Mancini more than deserves to keep his job

 

[bluetoo]

Cliches are generally given bad press. Cliches are generally cliches cos theyre true.

How can you possibly agree or disagree with the job Mancini is doing when his plans havent been fully implemented? To me that suggests impatience to the point of being a spoiled brat and a severe lack of understanding of people, working relationships and how to develop a work in progress.

Makes me laugh this "spoilt brats" stuff. I hear it quite a bit on here from a certain type of poster.

I'd put it to you that people like you have no balanced, informed grasp on what has happened at City over the last 3 years, and are talking total rubbish to Blues with far more knowledge of the game and club than yourself.

People like me huh? I would say people like you completely miss the point of the argument on purpose. Who gives a toss if I know whats gone on at City over the last 3 years? Whether I do or not (and you have no proof either way) I was talking about whats going on at present.

btw...you are talking total rubbish to me who has far more knowledge of ...well...me.

 

[nikatomcfc]

out

 

[dansyb]

IN