Mancini out? (merged)

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Caveman said:
You become underachievers over five years or a decade; not one season. Every single top club has dips and plateaus here and there.

You do realise that we were English football great underachievers before Mansour turned up? There was a study that showed us to be the number one underachievers and the recent Cup and League wins may not have changed that...
 
BlueDejong said:
Real Madrid have verbally agreed with Carlo Ancelotti to take over from Jose Mourinho in the summer.

from. Le Parisien

wow, Jose coming ?

Yes. Or No. Or maybe. Read the previous 300 pages to get the full picture as its clear as fucking mud on here!! Ha Ha!
 
BlueDejong said:
Real Madrid have verbally agreed with Carlo Ancelotti to take over from Jose Mourinho in the summer.

from. Le Parisien

wow, Jose coming ?

IF Ancelotti is going to Madrid, PSG will presumably go all out for Jose but they could also pursue Wenger now.

If Jose is true to his word that he wants to come back to England...?
 
flb said:
sergiokun said:
flb said:
So Mancini couldnt have the players he really wanted so went out and bought a pile of shite then to spite Marwood and our owners.


Yes, i get it now



No he needed players to compete. Do you really think he would of signed them players if he could of paid big wages?

hes bought enough players on big wages that have failed already, hes bought poorly fella,there are better players out there than Garcia,Rodwell and Sinclair for the same money or less.Hed have been better off not bothering to be honest instead of filling our squad with inadequate players-weve got our work cut out as it is when we need to move on the likes of Nasri,Dzeko and Kolorov.

We got away with it with Balotelli just at the right time because another 12 months of that clown we have got 10 million for him.

With such bad signings don't you think managing 1st and 2nd (at the moment) is quite an achievement?
 
If he goes to Chelsea a great three horse race will commence over the next few years. Then again it might even if he doesn't go to Chelsea, depending on who they get. I've seen Spalletti linked with Chelsea, a very good manager with more of an attacking mindset than many Italians.
 
LoveCity said:
If he goes to Chelsea a great three horse race will commence over the next few years. Then again it might even if he doesn't go to Chelsea, depending on who they get. I've seen Spalletti linked with Chelsea, a very good manager with more of an attacking mindset than many Italians.


Back in his Roma days, I had him high on the list of managers City should look at. Not someone that I'd sack Bobby over though; unlike Jose.
 
ban-mcfc said:
fbloke said:
ban-mcfc said:
yeah he has, said on twitter.

apparently the word on peoples lips is jose according to my mate as well.

I've personally heard more than enough TBH.

You may have read what Ive said on Twitter which can be summed up thusly -

"Not this again FFS!"

There are people way, way, way above my pay grade who are just as fucked off with this merry-go-round.

But as TH has said on this thread it will be a decision made by a very select few people.

Firstly though they have to convince themselves that their investment in Roberto is now spent. I'm not convinced they are there quite yet.

i have no idea what my mate has heard, he's just text me saying

"mancini out, mourinho in apparently"

whatever happens the owners will make the right decision i'm sure.
Your mate reads this forum it's the circular rumour game it's happened many times rumour on here mate rings mate who then rings other mate who posts it on here
 
Chippy_boy said:
taconinja said:
Chippy_boy said:
I sometimes wonder whether people on here know anything about football whatsoever.

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It's Dzeko's appearances and goals, btw.
And I wonder if they actually read posts or just knee-jerk react and show statistics that back up points I'm not arguing against.

OK, let me spell it out for you, seeing as you didn't get it.

You said "No amount of wingers will make up for Dzeko's wretched first touch."

36 goals in 42 appearances tells me that 1 or 2 good wingers is more than enough to make up for his "wretched first touch". Get it?
He's botched plenty of chances from good crosses by Kolarov and Zabaleta. Get it? We paid what? 27 million pounds? For a fucking post that's supposed to plant himself at the edge of the keeper's box and then we just lump the ball at him and hope for a good deflection? That's our Plan B? Just a few weeks ago, Aguero broke free got to the end line and looked to cross it to Dzeko who had been running with the play... but he stopped because for whatever reason he just didn't feel like running anymore or something.

This idea that that he'll score fifty goals a season or some such ridiculous amount if only we buy an entire new squad to suit him while he stands still chatting up the opposition keeper is a myth. Nothing more. He scored in the German league. Yay. Despite the hype it gets lately, it's still not top-to-bottom the equal of the PL.
 
taconinja said:
Chippy_boy said:
taconinja said:
And I wonder if they actually read posts or just knee-jerk react and show statistics that back up points I'm not arguing against.

OK, let me spell it out for you, seeing as you didn't get it.

You said "No amount of wingers will make up for Dzeko's wretched first touch."

36 goals in 42 appearances tells me that 1 or 2 good wingers is more than enough to make up for his "wretched first touch". Get it?
He's botched plenty of chances from good crosses by Kolarov and Zabaleta. Get it? We paid what? 27 million pounds? For a fucking post that's supposed to plant himself at the edge of the keeper's box and then we just lump the ball at him and hope for a good deflection? That's our Plan B? Just a few weeks ago, Aguero broke free got to the end line and looked to cross it to Dzeko who had been running with the play... but he stopped because for whatever reason he just didn't feel like running anymore or something.

This idea that that he'll score fifty goals a season or some such ridiculous amount if only we buy an entire new squad to suit him while he stands still chatting up the opposition keeper is a myth. Nothing more. He scored in the German league. Yay. Despite the hype it gets lately, it's still not top-to-bottom the equal of the PL.

You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of him.
 
The cookie monster said:
taconinja said:
Chippy_boy said:
OK, let me spell it out for you, seeing as you didn't get it.

You said "No amount of wingers will make up for Dzeko's wretched first touch."

36 goals in 42 appearances tells me that 1 or 2 good wingers is more than enough to make up for his "wretched first touch". Get it?
He's botched plenty of chances from good crosses by Kolarov and Zabaleta. Get it? We paid what? 27 million pounds? For a fucking post that's supposed to plant himself at the edge of the keeper's box and then we just lump the ball at him and hope for a good deflection? That's our Plan B? Just a few weeks ago, Aguero broke free got to the end line and looked to cross it to Dzeko who had been running with the play... but he stopped because for whatever reason he just didn't feel like running anymore or something.

This idea that that he'll score fifty goals a season or some such ridiculous amount if only we buy an entire new squad to suit him while he stands still chatting up the opposition keeper is a myth. Nothing more. He scored in the German league. Yay. Despite the hype it gets lately, it's still not top-to-bottom the equal of the PL.

You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of dzeko
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Also, I like Dzeko fine. Many of his fans though are another matter.
 
taconinja said:
The cookie monster said:
taconinja said:
He's botched plenty of chances from good crosses by Kolarov and Zabaleta. Get it? We paid what? 27 million pounds? For a fucking post that's supposed to plant himself at the edge of the keeper's box and then we just lump the ball at him and hope for a good deflection? That's our Plan B? Just a few weeks ago, Aguero broke free got to the end line and looked to cross it to Dzeko who had been running with the play... but he stopped because for whatever reason he just didn't feel like running anymore or something.

This idea that that he'll score fifty goals a season or some such ridiculous amount if only we buy an entire new squad to suit him while he stands still chatting up the opposition keeper is a myth. Nothing more. He scored in the German league. Yay. Despite the hype it gets lately, it's still not top-to-bottom the equal of the PL.

You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of dzeko
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Overated?
 
taconinja said:
The cookie monster said:
taconinja said:
He's botched plenty of chances from good crosses by Kolarov and Zabaleta. Get it? We paid what? 27 million pounds? For a fucking post that's supposed to plant himself at the edge of the keeper's box and then we just lump the ball at him and hope for a good deflection? That's our Plan B? Just a few weeks ago, Aguero broke free got to the end line and looked to cross it to Dzeko who had been running with the play... but he stopped because for whatever reason he just didn't feel like running anymore or something.

This idea that that he'll score fifty goals a season or some such ridiculous amount if only we buy an entire new squad to suit him while he stands still chatting up the opposition keeper is a myth. Nothing more. He scored in the German league. Yay. Despite the hype it gets lately, it's still not top-to-bottom the equal of the PL.

You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of dzeko
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Also, I like Dzeko fine. Many of his fans though are another matter.

Whatever critism Dzekos detractors have regarding his all round ability - there is no way he can be labelled a failure. If he is judged as a failure then the game of football is well and truly fucked.
 
The cookie monster said:
taconinja said:
The cookie monster said:
You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of dzeko
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Overated?
You're right. Poor choice of words. Mourinho rates certain attributes like all managers do. I don't think Dzeko ticks the boxes Mourinho values.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:29 pm --<br /><br />
Pablo1 said:
taconinja said:
The cookie monster said:
You do know theres a dzeko thread where folk spew their dislike of dzeko
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Also, I like Dzeko fine. Many of his fans though are another matter.

Whatever critism Dzekos detractors have regarding his all round ability - there is no way he can be labelled a failure. If he is judged as a failure then the game of football is well and truly fucked.
I don't think he's a failure either. He was brought up by someone as an example of players not progressing, ie failures, under Mancini.
 
taconinja said:
The cookie monster said:
taconinja said:
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Overated?
You're right. Poor choice of words. Mourinho rates certain attributes like all managers do. I don't think Dzeko ticks the boxes Mourinho values.

-- Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:29 pm --

Pablo1 said:
taconinja said:
Yeah and someone brought him up here (not me) as a Mancini "failure." Not my problem. All I know is that Mourinho would treat him like he treats all other overrated strikers who don't have the touch or work rate he wants. He would sell him posthaste.

Also, I like Dzeko fine. Many of his fans though are another matter.

Whatever critism Dzekos detractors have regarding his all round ability - there is no way he can be labelled a failure. If he is judged as a failure then the game of football is well and truly fucked.
I don't think he's a failure either. He was brought up by someone as an example of players not progressing, ie failures, under Mancini.

Yeah I saw that it didn't come from you mate, I just find it hard that anyone would think he's been a failure. Even if you don't rate him, he has done what's required as a striker and his scoring ratio is hard to dismiss.
 
It seems that its 3 to 1 in favour of Mancini

<a class="postlink" href="http://twitpolls.com/s/1rA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://twitpolls.com/s/1rA</a>
 
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