European success may not be a priority for some fans... indeed, a lot of City fans I travel to the game with seem to find Champions League almost a chore (why, I don't know. Maybe because we're so rubbish in it). But for the club itself, Financial Fair Play, our brand name, and us becoming a self-sustaining juggernaut European consistency/relative success (quarters/semis/final) is of the upmost importance. I'm a big Mancini fan but it's not dramatic to call him a failure in the Champions League so far. The best he's done in 7 attempts being the quarter finals but the most alarming thing is he's regressed rather than improved in Europe. Chronologically his CL record is: Group stage, quarter final, quarter final, last 16, last 16, group stage, group stage. Take out his first failure with Lazio (understandable) and it's a downward slope I'm afraid.