Mancini out? (merged)

[the blue panther]

Genuine question I've been meaning to ask those who think Mancini will be around for years to come and that he retains the owners full confidence based on his 5 year contract. This is what Mancini said after winning the FA Cup two years ago.

"I agree with Alex Ferguson, who says a manager needs total control," said Mancini. "But he has been at United for a long time so for him it is easy. He has to be in control of everything, doesn't he?

"Maybe for me it is difficult because I have only been here for 18 months or so. Maybe I need to have more control of the team and the other situations. For a manager that's very important. Maybe if I win the Premier League this season it will be different."

Mancini won the league and hasn't be granted anything like the power he wanted. If anything his power has been reduced significantly with the arrival of Txiki and Ferran.

Sounds like you're making an observation rather than asking a question

Had Alex ferguson been appointed now, he'd almost certainly be operating under a Football Director.

The difference between the two clubs is not a judgement on how Mancini is regarded by his bosses vis a vis Ferguson, it's a historical consequence of Ferguson's reign at Old Trafford which is highly unlikely to be ever repeated again.

Fergies role and power have evolved over a 28 year period. That is the point Mancini was alluding to, probably in his broken English.
You could turn much of this inane argument on its head and ask why on Earth have United stuck with such a failure as Ferguson for all these years, when he's only managed to win the Chumps league twice, once with late , late goals against the run of play against Bayern Munich, and secondly, against Chelsea on feckin' penalties. And all that with the most expensively assembled squad ever in British football. Loser!

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Had Alex ferguson been appointed now, he'd almost certainly be operating under a Football Director.

My brother's a die hard rag, and he mentioned the other day that David Gill had gone on record as saying that the next United manager would have the same say so in general that Ferguson has ie. there will be no DoF there - he was making this point to illustrate why United is perfect for someone like Mourinho who craves total control.

Thats why he wont come here billy
Do you think the spanish duo would give him that luxury..

 

[Marvin]

Genuine question I've been meaning to ask those who think Mancini will be around for years to come and that he retains the owners full confidence based on his 5 year contract. This is what Mancini said after winning the FA Cup two years ago.



Mancini won the league and hasn't be granted anything like the power he wanted. If anything his power has been reduced significantly with the arrival of Txiki and Ferran.

Sounds like you're making an observation rather than asking a question

Had Alex ferguson been appointed now, he'd almost certainly be operating under a Football Director.

The difference between the two clubs is not a judgement on how Mancini is regarded by his bosses vis a vis Ferguson, it's a historical consequence of Ferguson's reign at Old Trafford which is highly unlikely to be ever repeated again.

Fergies role and power have evolved over a 28 year period. That is the point Mancini was alluding to, probably in his broken English.
You could turn much of this inane argument on its head and ask why on Earth have United stuck with such a failure as Ferguson for all these years, when he's only managed to win the Chumps league twice, once with late , late goals against the run of play against Bayern Munich, and secondly, against Chelsea on feckin' penalties. And all that with the most expensively assembled squad ever in British football. Loser!

Ferguson has advantages that other managers don't have, but I wouldn't question his ability

You are seeing and assuming things!

 

[Anonymous]

Thats why he wont come here billy

It's also why in my opinion Mancini won't be at City for much longer either.

 

[Skashion]

That's why it's an interesting conundrum, who is both proven and willing to work within our structure. I cannot think of many candidates at all.

 

[Marvin]

Mourinho went to Inter Milan and Real Madrid. I doubt very much whether he expected total control at those two clubs

I don't know exactly how Man Utd operate in comparison to MCFC but I am certain that it's all to do with the heritage of success that Ferguson has built up over the years. That system can work if you've got the right man in place and are going to stick by him over two decades.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Thats why he wont come here billy

It's also why in my opinion Mancini won't be at City for much longer either.

Well as skas has just said who would come as a top manager and work under the spanish pair
They call the shots not the manager
Because thats the way its looking at how our owners want to run the club.

 

[NipHolmes]

Thats why he wont come here billy

It's also why in my opinion Mancini won't be at City for much longer either.

This is the way I see it.

The Spaniards have successfully overhauled Barcelona. They've proven their form.

They want a COACH, they want someone who will do as they ask and understand what's required and carry out expectations with as little turbulence as possible.

They want solutions, not problems.

 

[Goo]

I can't imagine the DoF role being a huge deterrent for managers (current and future). If it was, the club would effectively be shooting themselves in the foot on this front. Why isolate yourself from potential good candidates for the manager role?

 

[LoveCity]

I can't imagine the DoF role being a huge deterrent for managers (current and future). If it was, the club would effectively be shooting themselves in the foot on this front. Why isolate yourself from potential good candidates for the manager role?

The model is used at a large number of top European clubs including the best (Barca) so it will be no problem as long as we don't have managers who conflict with Txiki (if they do they won't last long).