Mancini out? (merged)

[Prestwich_Blue]

Re: Would Swales have sacked bobby by now?

There have been some utterly,utterly shite threads in the last 24 hours but well played to the OP for setting the bar to a new low.

 

[Marvin]

He is or should be a Sampdoria fan

 

[spamalot]

Re: Would Swales have sacked bobby by now?

As Swales was renowned for making the worst decisions he probably would have sacked Roberto by now, before he could improve on his 3 trophies in 3 years record.

 

[LoveCity]

Watching the red scum and I don't want us to play like them but how they don't over complicate their attacks and don't try to make rocket science out of football annoys me... annoys me because we're the opposite, trying to be football intellectuals on the pitch but doing a half arse job of it compared to the masters (Barcelona).

If Mancini wants to be among the greats it's time for him to stop being so stubborn, change the style of football to one that doesn't play so much into the hands of half the league who have wised up since the first half of last season (the anti-football teams that make up half of the Premier League and now know how to take points from us at their grounds). I'd like us to play more like Dortmund than United, high pressing, fast, entertaining, but not kick and rush wingball.

 

[OB1]

Watching the red scum and I don't want us to play like them but how they don't over complicate their attacks and don't try to make rocket science out of football annoys me... annoys me because we're the opposite, trying to be football intellectuals on the pitch but doing a half arse job of it compared to the masters (Barcelona).

If Mancini wants to be among the greats it's time for him to stop being so stubborn, change the style of football to one that doesn't play so much into the hands of half the league who have wised up since the first half of last season (the anti-football teams that make up half of the Premier League and now know how to take points from us at their grounds). I'd like us to play more like Dortmund than United, high pressing, fast, entertaining, but not kick and rush wingball.

Something needs to change because it looks like the Rags are 45 minutes away from wrapping up the title in the middle of February and that is a pathetic state of affairs.

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

I'll be eternally grateful to Mancini for his part in helping us win our first trophy in decades, managing us to the champions of England and in general being here at the start of us becoming a real force in football. I do think we need to kick on now though, just like when a side becomes better, the players we recruit become better. The managerial position is no different, at this level and by "this level" I mean defending champions, looking to hold on to our title, he's proven himself to be tactically inept time and time again. If proof was ever needed that we could do better, I think of it like this.....If old whisky face was our manager would we be 9 points behind, if your answer is anything other than no, I suggest you stop reading this and find a new sport. If Mancini was currently in charge of their squad, do you think they would be about to go 12 points ahead? Not a chance in hell. Lets not even mention our shambolic foray into to Europe. I'm not here to slag Mancini, far from it, but IMO he's reached his peak as a manager.I think everybody must realize its highly unlikely he would have been here this season without that Aguero goal.

 

[citytill1die84]

Watching the red scum and I don't want us to play like them but how they don't over complicate their attacks and don't try to make rocket science out of football annoys me... annoys me because we're the opposite, trying to be football intellectuals on the pitch but doing a half arse job of it compared to the masters (Barcelona).

If Mancini wants to be among the greats it's time for him to stop being so stubborn, change the style of football to one that doesn't play so much into the hands of half the league who have wised up since the first half of last season (the anti-football teams that make up half of the Premier League and now know how to take points from us at their grounds). I'd like us to play more like Dortmund than United, high pressing, fast, entertaining, but not kick and rush wingball.

Something needs to change because it looks like the Rags are 45 minutes away from wrapping up the title in the middle of February and that is a pathetic state of affairs.

We wrapped it up last night for them mate.

 

[Kid A]

Watching the red scum and I don't want us to play like them but how they don't over complicate their attacks and don't try to make rocket science out of football annoys me... annoys me because we're the opposite, trying to be football intellectuals on the pitch but doing a half arse job of it compared to the masters (Barcelona).

If Mancini wants to be among the greats it's time for him to stop being so stubborn, change the style of football to one that doesn't play so much into the hands of half the league who have wised up since the first half of last season (the anti-football teams that make up half of the Premier League and now know how to take points from us at their grounds). I'd like us to play more like Dortmund than United, high pressing, fast, entertaining, but not kick and rush wingball.

I agree with you, but I think it is clear by now that Mancini will not/cannot change his approach. The pressure for such a change is almost irresistible now. I think it is when, not if, RM moves on - big summer of change ahead, I reckon.

 

[mancity1]

I'll be eternally grateful to Mancini for his part in helping us win our first trophy in decades, managing us to the champions of England and in general being here at the start of us becoming a real force in football. I do think we need to kick on now though, just like when a side becomes better, the players we recruit become better. The managerial position is no different, at this level and by "this level" I mean defending champions, looking to hold on to our title, he's proven himself to be tactically inept time and time again. If proof was ever needed that we could do better, I think of it like this.....If old whisky face was our manager would we be 9 points behind, if your answer is anything other than no, I suggest you stop reading this and find a new sport. If Mancini was currently in charge of their squad, do you think they would be about to go 12 points ahead? Not a chance in hell. Lets not even mention our shambolic foray into to Europe. I'm not here to slag Mancini, far from it, but IMO he's reached his peak as a manager.I think everybody must realize its highly unlikely he would have been here this season without that Aguero goal.

And the way Aquero is playing now he would not score that goal which is more to the point.

Something clearly is not right and while injuries and other factors well documented have taken their toll , the players have lost their zest and the ability to do the things required to win games of football.

15 wins from 26 games isn't good enough for the quality of player we have at the club.

Players don't lose their ability en mass so quickly unless there are deep lying problems elsewhere.

Even Giggs at 40 contributes positively still after 20 years at the one club.

 

[i8rags]

Re: Would Swales have sacked bobby by now?

There have been some utterly,utterly shite threads in the last 24 hours but well played to the OP for setting the bar to a new low.

Keep reading on these threads that we are the best team, well the best team always wins the league, so if the best team does not win the league, it's because we haven't got the best manager.

 

[forevermancity]

Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager?

I don't know about Mourinho at Porto, but ever since he is the personification of the cheque book manager

Ferguson bought RVP in the Summer, and we knew then what a decisive moment that was. We expected a response but were amazed at what transpired in the last week in August. I was quite happy that we didn't sign RVP, but I expected we'd strengthen elsewhere.

I can take finishing 2nd best to Utd, I can't take meltdown and under-performing. We play to our maximum and nothing else is acceptable. Is that players, manager or the club's fault?

Are you still comparing city sacking Mancini to the farce at Chelsea by the way?

Missing your response?

If you slag off some posters for a farcical point at least face up to it when challenged?

Unless you were chatting bollocks as per usual

Marvin, where are you?

 

[OB1]

Re: Would Swales have sacked bobby by now?

There have been some utterly,utterly shite threads in the last 24 hours but well played to the OP for setting the bar to a new low.

Keep reading on these threads that we are the best team, well the best team always wins the league, so if the best team does not win the league, it's because we haven't got the best manager.

The best team does not always win the league but when it doesn't, you do have to look at the manager.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

 

[MSP]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

He's keeping him fit for FA Cup ,he knows it's only competition we have a chance to win.

 

[Kid A]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

As you recognise, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Understandable decision, given the niggles VK has had this season, but more than anything it was his leadership we missed. Shocking how many senior players caved under the pressure.

 

[OB1]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

Worse decision was not to play Kolo, who appeared to be fit enough to be on the bench and played well when recently filling in for VK.

 

[mancity1]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

You could point out to resting Milner and Nasty as well but in truth as has been said the side we put out was more than capable of putting on a good display and getting 3 points.

I have little doubt that had Kompany , Nasty and Milner started last night we still would have put on the disgraceful display we did so it afforded RM another excuse as such.

Something off the field that may come to light happened that meant the players en mass didn't want to perform.

You could tell even in the tunnel their minds were elsewhere.

They should be professional enough to put it behind them and I am not sure if its been building in recent weeks or it was a one off event that happened in the lead up to the game but while it seemed like a protest by the players on the park not to perform clearly something was rotten in Denmark so to speak.

Perhaps Tolmie with your connections at the club you can enlighten us as to what it might be.

I think its well beyond Tevez and his personal issues but who knows?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

As you recognise, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Understandable decision, given the niggles VK has had this season, but more than anything it was his leadership we missed. Shocking how many senior players caved under the pressure.

I just look at it the other way. Always play your best team.

We went into that game yesterday knowing it was shit or bust.

Vinny could just as easily get injured in a one-off Cup tie.

 

[Stoned Rose]

He is or should be a Sampdoria fan

He is.

 

[Kid A]

Not seen it mentioned but the decision not to play Kompany beggars belief now with hindsight, admittedly.

Apparently he was fit to play but ESPN said Mancini did not want to risk it with so many games still to play?

That's not shortsightedness, more delusion, if that was indeed the case.

As you recognise, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Understandable decision, given the niggles VK has had this season, but more than anything it was his leadership we missed. Shocking how many senior players caved under the pressure.

I just look at it the other way. Always play your best team.

We went into that game yesterday knowing it was shit or bust.

Vinny could just as easily get injured in a one-off Cup tie.

I guess so, but Leeds and Chelsea are two huge games, even more so after the shambles on saturday evening.