Mancini out? (merged)

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I have no doubt that that reason, in part, why barca, bayern and united are so far in front in their respective leagues is because they are, uniteds debt aside, the 3 best run clubs in europe. We need another 5 years of stability to establish ourselves as a top, top club.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:09 am --<br /><br />Btw i still cant believe how shite we were against ajax, home and away, still having nightmares.
 
The reason they are the best clubs is because they don't accept failure, I would take success over stability every year!
 
Moody said:
The reason they are the best clubs is because they don't accept failure, I would take success over stability every year!

stability more often than not breeds success.

arsenal would have fallen away earlier without wenger imo.

although he should have got them the odd FA or league cup in the last few years.

everton are still pushing up the table with moyes and well the rags have dominated for 20 years.
 
ban-mcfc said:
Moody said:
The reason they are the best clubs is because they don't accept failure, I would take success over stability every year!

stability more often than not breeds success.

arsenal would have fallen away earlier without wenger imo.

although he should have got them the odd FA or league cup in the last few years.

everton are still pushing up the table with moyes and well the rags have dominated for 20 years.
Stability breeds success only if the right manager is in place, mancini is not the right man unless he's allowed to spend 100+ mill every year and we both know that ain't gonna happen and will take our club backwards a little bit more every year, I can't stand by and watch that!
 
Moody said:
ban-mcfc said:
Moody said:
The reason they are the best clubs is because they don't accept failure, I would take success over stability every year!

stability more often than not breeds success.

arsenal would have fallen away earlier without wenger imo.

although he should have got them the odd FA or league cup in the last few years.

everton are still pushing up the table with moyes and well the rags have dominated for 20 years.
Stability breeds success only if the right manager is in place, mancini is not the right man unless he's allowed to spend 100+ mill every year and we both know that ain't gonna happen and will take our club backwards a little bit more every year, I can't stand by and watch that!

we need to spend 50 mill every summer to keep us topped up just like barca do.

unfortunately brian marwood was in charge and fucked everything up last summer.
 
ban-mcfc said:
Moody said:
ban-mcfc said:
stability more often than not breeds success.

arsenal would have fallen away earlier without wenger imo.

although he should have got them the odd FA or league cup in the last few years.

everton are still pushing up the table with moyes and well the rags have dominated for 20 years.
Stability breeds success only if the right manager is in place, mancini is not the right man unless he's allowed to spend 100+ mill every year and we both know that ain't gonna happen and will take our club backwards a little bit more every year, I can't stand by and watch that!

we need to spend 50 mill every summer to keep us topped up just like barca do.

unfortunately brian marwood was in charge and fucked everything up last summer.

We had clear problems last season which were covered up by the rags being shite and then a bottle job. As they were covered up by a title win everything was rosy but it was a shite prem year in terms of challengers. We need a final £100 million to finish the job off and then £20-30 million a year afterwards would of kept us going. Unfortunately we didn't and have gone backwards and now its clear we need to upgrade the squad this year
 
ban-mcfc said:
Comrade Buka said:
ban-mcfc said:
2 of the worst, most ridiculous posts i've seen in a long time.

Thanks for your input. Your rhetoric is sublime.

your insistence in slating a man who's just landed us 2 trophies in 2 years, for the first time since 1969 is sublime.

and "arab money" sounds just like a rag.

If you are immune to facts, no matter what they are called. That's on you.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:33 am --<br /><br />
Ragnarok said:
Comrade Buka said:
ban-mcfc said:
2 of the worst, most ridiculous posts i've seen in a long time.

Thanks for your input. Your rhetoric is sublime.

I suppose with all this arab money, you could manage the team yourself to success. Why dont you go that and then get back.

Straw man much?
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
ban-mcfc said:
Moody said:
Stability breeds success only if the right manager is in place, mancini is not the right man unless he's allowed to spend 100+ mill every year and we both know that ain't gonna happen and will take our club backwards a little bit more every year, I can't stand by and watch that!

we need to spend 50 mill every summer to keep us topped up just like barca do.

unfortunately brian marwood was in charge and fucked everything up last summer.

We had clear problems last season which were covered up by the rags being shite and then a bottle job. As they were covered up by a title win everything was rosy but it was a shite prem year in terms of challengers. We need a final £100 million to finish the job off and then £20-30 million a year afterwards would of kept us going. Unfortunately we didn't and have gone backwards and now its clear we need to upgrade the squad this year

disagree, 70% of the season we were brilliant, the first 3 months untouchable.

we dipped around this point but regained form upon the return of carlos which gave us a much needed boost.

we bought very badly in the summer and it's cost us. plus a few injuries haven't helped, the rags are having their best league season since i can remember which is why the gap is so big.
 
The cookie monster said:
He keeps chirping away on his anti mancini campaign,thread after thread
Leave him to it..

Eeez important to improove.

How have we improved?

The worse position in CL?
The ~30% less goals?
The pedestrian build-up play?
The complacent (if that is what it is) players?
The lack of width and pace?
The shoddy transfer windows?

Do elaborate.
 
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.
 
markbmcfc said:
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.
Stop talking sense mark ffs.
 
markbmcfc said:
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
We can't defend the indefencable in the name of stabilty!
Mancini has had the keys to the treaure chest but he has brought his own downfall
In europe and the premier league pace is the killer of teams
We have no pace, we are one dimensional and his european exploits with Inter were an underachievement.
He helped elevate us to a certain level but who could argue that the premier league is not as strong as years gone by, hence other english sides in europe, certainly over the last couple of years.
When I look at PSG, in an inferior league also, they are doing the transition to a major club twice as quick.
The conclusion is we have reached a level we were going to reach regardless of mancini, but we need to go further and you could argue we need a rebuild again, progression has halted and he has reached the end of his shelf life.
Nothing ever stays the same and if you stand still you move backwards.
The good thing about this season is the majority will be in full agreement we need to change direction
 
The cookie monster said:
markbmcfc said:
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.
Stop talking sense mark ffs.

He never started mate so he doesn't need to stop.

Seriously though ... Mancini Out this summer is the only sensible decision the board can make in my view. His failures are brought into stark contrast this week with the CL reaching it's knock out stage and the rags being able to focus solely on that as they pretty much have the league sewn up. I'm sure it's all very very embarrassing for Sheikh Mansour. He dashed Super Mario, and I'm confident he'll dash Bobby Manc and then the next phase of the project will begin in earnest.
 
BillyShears said:
The cookie monster said:
markbmcfc said:
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.
Stop talking sense mark ffs.

He never started mate so he doesn't need to stop.

Seriously though ... Mancini Out this summer is the only sensible decision the board can make in my view. His failures are brought into stark contrast this week with the CL reaching it's knock out stage and the rags being able to focus solely on that as they pretty much have the league sewn up. I'm sure it's all very very embarrassing for Sheikh Mansour. He dashed Super Mario, and I'm confident he'll dash Bobby Manc and then the next phase of the project will begin in earnest.

yeah so embarrassing that the plan was to get regular top 4 finishes and win the league within 5 years.

mancini has not only completed the first part, he's also won us an FA cup as a bonus and won the league title a head of schedule.
 
BillyShears said:
The cookie monster said:
markbmcfc said:
We've had a poor season. Nothing more.

You don't sack a manager after a poor season. Especially when the previous two were successful.

Write this year off, rebuild in the summer and go again next year. In three seasons, we've had one poor season. It's not as if we are steadily getting worse. This season if anything goes against the trend.

Plus we had a shocker in the summer, and that wasn't Mancini's fault.
Stop talking sense mark ffs.

He never started mate so he doesn't need to stop.

Seriously though ... Mancini Out this summer is the only sensible decision the board can make in my view. His failures are brought into stark contrast this week with the CL reaching it's knock out stage and the rags being able to focus solely on that as they pretty much have the league sewn up. I'm sure it's all very very embarrassing for Sheikh Mansour. He dashed Super Mario, and I'm confident he'll dash Bobby Manc and then the next phase of the project will begin in earnest.

Can we keep Kolorov though. I mean I know he isn't that great but he is a good lad
 
ban-mcfc said:
yeah so embarrassing that the plan was to get regular top 4 finishes and win the league within 5 years.

mancini has not only completed the first part, he's also won us an FA cup as a bonus and won the league title a head of schedule.

Then why was he looking for other jobs last season and why were we looking at other managers ?

Actually ... nevermind. You don't have an answer to that and my point has been made loud and clear.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:08 pm --<br /><br />
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Can we keep Kolorov though. I mean I know he isn't that great but he is a good lad

Haha - no chance. You can't have squad/back up players on 100k a week plus ...
 
BillyShears said:
ban-mcfc said:
yeah so embarrassing that the plan was to get regular top 4 finishes and win the league within 5 years.

mancini has not only completed the first part, he's also won us an FA cup as a bonus and won the league title a head of schedule.

Then why was he looking for other jobs last season and why were we looking at other managers ?

Actually ... nevermind. You don't have an answer to that and my point has been made loud and clear.

how do you know we were looking at other managers?

and he was protecting himself, the media were calling for his head and he obviously wasn't a 100%

i'd do the same if people were saying i was going to be sacked, even though nothing had come from my bosses.

explain to me why he's got a 5 year contract?
 
ban-mcfc said:
explain to me why he's got a 5 year contract?

Right after you explain to me why Adam Johnson got a five year contract before being sold less than 12 months later ... or why Jose Mourinho got a new contract last summer when he's patently leaving Real Madrid this summer ?
 
Am having a day of the mancini v jomo today billy,well just the one post anyway :)

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