Mancini out? (merged)

[Marvin]

Re: Mancini out?

there is no way mancini told joe to drop the ball or barry to finish like a world class forward.

The Chelsea situation under AVB has shown that the senior players were engineering his exit from Stamford Bridge.

exactly, now he's flying with spuds.

No he's at a club with lower expectations but arguably a better player in Bale who is one of the few players in the Premiership who can win games single-handedly

I watched Spurs v Newcastle and Newcastle were the better team, but lost because of two pieces of brilliance by Bale

Bale makes AVB look good

Yesterday, Barry and Hart made Mancini look bad. But Barry and Hart are human and will make mistakes and need support just like Nasri does after his mistake against Utd.

 

[cookster]

Re: Mancini out?

there is no way mancini told joe to drop the ball or barry to finish like a world class forward.

The Chelsea situation under AVB has shown that the senior players were engineering his exit from Stamford Bridge.

exactly, now he's flying with spuds.

Flying LOL, after 26 games last year they had 5 more points under twitter. Maybe we should go for him.

 

[hgblue]

Re: Mancini out?

the players lost us the game not the manager. they were a shambles. there is talk of them not liking the manager and "throwing" the game, well if thats the case they can fuck off, all of them. you play to the best of your ability when you take to the field of play, fall out with him in the week but on matchday there are 3 points to be won, the whole world are watching and 3500 guys have shelled out good money to watch you perform. now if it was just "one of those days" fine but thats it now. next week we start again and you had better put that man management shit right out of your heads.

Really De Niro? Can you actually tell me what Mancini is paid £8million a year for? Is he just meant to pick a team week in week out and say "there you go, job done! now it's down to the players!"

there is no way mancini told joe to drop the ball or barry to finish like a world class forward.

Did that team take to the pitch yesterday as a highly motivated, fully focused unit, determined to try to defend it's title by putting in the necessary effort to win a tricky fixture, thereby putting pressure on United to win today? If not, why not? Fair enough, we don't have a divine right to win a football match, but there was one team on that pitch yesterday giving everything for the cause, and it wasn't us. This was a crucial game and we were lethargic and sloppy. This is totally unacceptable and why the spotlight falls firmly on the manager.

 

[Bill]

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Really De Niro? Can you actually tell me what Mancini is paid £8million a year for? Is he just meant to pick a team week in week out and say "there you go, job done! now it's down to the players!"

there is no way mancini told joe to drop the ball or barry to finish like a world class forward.

He did pick Nasri over Milner and Garcia at CB. Also even though you could see we were being outplayed didn't change formation until too late - as usual.

fair enough.

 

[BlueAnorak]

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He did pick Nasri over Milner and Garcia at CB. Also even though you could see we were being outplayed didn't change formation until too late - as usual.

Gacia wasn't that bad. Not compared with Hart, Lescott, Barry, YaYa, Silva, Aguero. On a par with Zaba. Nasri on the other hand? I'd love him to convince me but I haven't see anything in two years aside from the Tevez goal last season @Chelsea(H) to convince me.

The only selection mistake Mancini made yesterday was dropping Milner for YaYa and playing Nasri. Miller should have started and YaYa should have been shorn of his defensive duties (he did that himself anyway). But then again, admit it, folks who on here would not have played YaYa?

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Bobby has not looked himself in recent pressers...maybe he knows something...MAYBE.

 

[@BluePhil8]

This may have been commented on. I was in a bad mood before the game even started yesterday. As soon as i saw that Zabeleta had been stripped of the captaincy for no reason. Why even do something like that?

 

[Marvin]

Re: Mancini out?

He did pick Nasri over Milner and Garcia at CB. Also even though you could see we were being outplayed didn't change formation until too late - as usual.

Gacia wasn't that bad. Not compared with Hart, Lescott, Barry, YaYa, Silva, Aguero. On a par with Zaba. Nasri on the other hand? I'd love him to convince me but I haven't see anything in two years aside from the Tevez goal last season @Chelsea(H) to convince me.

The only selection mistake Mancini made yesterday was dropping Milner for YaYa and playing Nasri. Miller should have started and YaYa should have been shorn of his defensive duties (he did that himself anyway). But then again, admit it, folks who on here would not have played YaYa?

Milner should play centrally. Yaya blows hot and cold, but I'd play him every game especially in big games

garcia for me is a very good player. But I don't like him sat in midfield alongside Barry. One or the other

We weren't outplayed by Soton we just shot ourselves in the foot 3 times. That's football and is the type of game you expect once or twice a season. We had given ourselves no room for those mistakes yesterday and it just ratcheted up the tension

 

[MSP]

Bobby has not looked himself in recent pressers...maybe he knows something...MAYBE.

He was not entertaining one in same situation last year too, that doesn't say anything.

 

[dancity19]

We have lost 3 games all season, unlike some of the smacked arses on here i can remember times in the past where we have lost three games in a week.

I was as frustrated as anyone yesterday but we need some perspective as well.

could not agree more.

Performances have been diminishing under Mancini all season. We may only have lost 3, but look at how many we have drawn due to the same old failings, which the management are seemingly oblivious to. Lost 3, yep, but we also have a very real possibility (probability) of being 12 points behind United tonight. They could lose 4 games between now and the end of the season, but do you have the confidence in us, at the moment to do our bit???

A week or so ago we could have beaten QPR and made it a 2 point gap. We have picked up 2 points out of a possible 12- against QPR, Liverpool and Southampton (hardly Everton, Chelsea and United) and now will be 12 points behind.

The difference about yesterday though, was that it wasn't even the same old problems that let us down. It wasn't the inability to break down teams- we are appalling to a man. Everyone was abysmal, lacking in effort, lacking in care, lacking in structure. Maybe apart from Aguero, who I thought worked hard, but everyone else just looked disinterested.

Yesterday smacked of a 'lost the dressing room performance'. Our most dependable players were anything but. The game was so surreal; I honestly cannot believe how poor we were. In all seriousness, have we looked that bad since the Pearce era. ONly one I can think of is the Spurs game under Hughes, and I think yesterday was worse.

Something was wrong yesterday, that was worse than just a bad performance.