Mancini out? (merged)

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greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
Kept off the forum for as long as i could after yesterday knowing Bluemoon would be in meltdown. No doubt last night was poor, unusually poor, compared to what we have been used to over the last couple of years. I recall this time last year when we struggled around the same time and i suspect its because we are a little lightweight especially our creative players like Silva, Nasri, Sergio etc perhaps the heavier pitches have a bearing on our perfomances at this time of the year. Its a question not an opinion or excuse.

What i find laughable is posters coming on here saying Bobby should have signed him in the summer or his treatment of other squad players is this/that as if they had UEFA coaching badges. I'm sure if you sat down with the players who played yesterday and asked them why they performed the way they did they would be just as puzzled as us and the manager. The fact is it happens and its only our third defeat this season. Yes we haven't hit the heights we did last season but i suspect that this is a result of teams playing defensively at home as well as parking the bus at our place.

What i found unusual about last night was Southampton actually took the game to us which put us on the backfoot, as did Liverpool, exposing Garcia and Lescottt. Bobby has identified the solution to this by wanting to sign players, especially wide ones, with pace to catch out teams on the break. This is the reason we were allegedly in for Alexis Sanchez.

There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say.
 
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation?

How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced.

There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
Kept off the forum for as long as i could after yesterday knowing Bluemoon would be in meltdown. No doubt last night was poor, unusually poor, compared to what we have been used to over the last couple of years. I recall this time last year when we struggled around the same time and i suspect its because we are a little lightweight especially our creative players like Silva, Nasri, Sergio etc perhaps the heavier pitches have a bearing on our perfomances at this time of the year. Its a question not an opinion or excuse. What i find laughable is posters coming on here saying Bobby should have signed him in the summer or his treatment of other squad players is this/that as if they had UEFA coaching badges. I'm sure if you sat down with the players who played yesterday and asked them why they performed the way they did they would be just as puzzled as us and the manager. The fact is it happens and its only our third defeat this season. Yes we haven't hit the heights we did last season but i suspect that this is a result of teams playing defensively at home as well as parking the bus at our place. What i found unusual about last night was Southampton actually took the game to us which put us on the backfoot, as did Liverpool, exposing Garcia and Lescottt. Bobby has identified the solution to this by wanting to sign players, especially wide ones, with pace to catch out teams on the break. This is the reason we were allegedly in for Alexis Sanchez. There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
 
DD said:
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation?

How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced.

There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.


Scum are full of home grown talent too
 
yatesy94 said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
Kept off the forum for as long as i could after yesterday knowing Bluemoon would be in meltdown. No doubt last night was poor, unusually poor, compared to what we have been used to over the last couple of years. I recall this time last year when we struggled around the same time and i suspect its because we are a little lightweight especially our creative players like Silva, Nasri, Sergio etc perhaps the heavier pitches have a bearing on our perfomances at this time of the year. Its a question not an opinion or excuse.

What i find laughable is posters coming on here saying Bobby should have signed him in the summer or his treatment of other squad players is this/that as if they had UEFA coaching badges. I'm sure if you sat down with the players who played yesterday and asked them why they performed the way they did they would be just as puzzled as us and the manager. The fact is it happens and its only our third defeat this season. Yes we haven't hit the heights we did last season but i suspect that this is a result of teams playing defensively at home as well as parking the bus at our place.

What i found unusual about last night was Southampton actually took the game to us which put us on the backfoot, as did Liverpool, exposing Garcia and Lescottt. Bobby has identified the solution to this by wanting to sign players, especially wide ones, with pace to catch out teams on the break. This is the reason we were allegedly in for Alexis Sanchez.

There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

What an utterly ridiculous thing to say.

Scandalous post.

(and how do you know some of us on here don't have UEFA coaching qualifications?)
 
DD said:
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation?

How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced.

There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.

It seems to have worked for every other manager that has won the league.
 
Moody said:
mostonbluemark said:
Kept off the forum for as long as i could after yesterday knowing Bluemoon would be in meltdown. No doubt last night was poor, unusually poor, compared to what we have been used to over the last couple of years. I recall this time last year when we struggled around the same time and i suspect its because we are a little lightweight especially our creative players like Silva, Nasri, Sergio etc perhaps the heavier pitches have a bearing on our perfomances at this time of the year. Its a question not an opinion or excuse.

What i find laughable is posters coming on here saying Bobby should have signed him in the summer or his treatment of other squad players is this/that as if they had UEFA coaching badges. I'm sure if you sat down with the players who played yesterday and asked them why they performed the way they did they would be just as puzzled as us and the manager. The fact is it happens and its only our third defeat this season. Yes we haven't hit the heights we did last season but i suspect that this is a result of teams playing defensively at home as well as parking the bus at our place.

What i found unusual about last night was Southampton actually took the game to us which put us on the backfoot, as did Liverpool, exposing Garcia and Lescottt. Bobby has identified the solution to this by wanting to sign players, especially wide ones, with pace to catch out teams on the break. This is the reason we were allegedly in for Alexis Sanchez.

There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.
how can you say that after all the money they have poured into our club disgracefull thing to say!
I think Sheik Mansour will be equally unhappy that £50m was spent so poorly

Investment was poured in but invested poorly. Why? We wont find out why. But that's what Khaldoon should establish and the other well-paid executives, and then put in place a solution so we don't have a situation where the manager of the Champions is publically asking his Director of Football in a press conference wtfigo when the season has started

That kind of planning deserves failure
 
mostonbluemark said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
Kept off the forum for as long as i could after yesterday knowing Bluemoon would be in meltdown. No doubt last night was poor, unusually poor, compared to what we have been used to over the last couple of years. I recall this time last year when we struggled around the same time and i suspect its because we are a little lightweight especially our creative players like Silva, Nasri, Sergio etc perhaps the heavier pitches have a bearing on our perfomances at this time of the year. Its a question not an opinion or excuse. What i find laughable is posters coming on here saying Bobby should have signed him in the summer or his treatment of other squad players is this/that as if they had UEFA coaching badges. I'm sure if you sat down with the players who played yesterday and asked them why they performed the way they did they would be just as puzzled as us and the manager. The fact is it happens and its only our third defeat this season. Yes we haven't hit the heights we did last season but i suspect that this is a result of teams playing defensively at home as well as parking the bus at our place. What i found unusual about last night was Southampton actually took the game to us which put us on the backfoot, as did Liverpool, exposing Garcia and Lescottt. Bobby has identified the solution to this by wanting to sign players, especially wide ones, with pace to catch out teams on the break. This is the reason we were allegedly in for Alexis Sanchez. There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.


Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager?
 
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