Mancini out? (merged)

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Barcon said:
DD said:
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation?

How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced.

There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.

It seems to have worked for every other manager that has won the league.

People forget the fact Mancini was only given the job at Inter after proving himself at clubs which became savaged with debt (Fiorentina and Lazio) and still winning trophies with them. At Fiorentina he had to work unpaid! And at Lazio they had to sell their key players (Nesta was one IIRC) and beg players to take wage cuts yet he still got them into the Champions League, won a Coppa Italia and got to the semi-final of the Uefa Cup.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.

+1
 
grim up north said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.


Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager?
What did he achieve at Porto without huge funds?
 
DD said:
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation? How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced. There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.

Bobby wanted Van Persie and Hazard and for the same money those two might have cost he got Garcia, Sinclair, Wright et al. That had nothing to do with Marwood as inevitably everything goes through Khaldoon. Thats what i don't understand. I understand about FFP, we are all experts on this by now thanks to our more knowledgeable posters, i supported the club stance in the summer on agents fees. But after all that we could still have got the two players Bobby wanted for the same outlay. Thats what puzzles me. Can't blame Bobby for that.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
mostonbluemark said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
So much wrong with this post I dont where to start.

Thats probably because you are a Mancini outer and therefore beyond a resonable debate. But guess what i'm going to give you an opportunity to say which elements of my post you disagree with. Over to you, but i won't hold my breath.
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.

Have to say I can't understand the way Nasri has played since coming here. I used to watch him at Arsenal pick the ball up and run at defenders going past them with ease playing a nice one two and getting a shot off at goal. Here he's hardly done nothing more than pick up the ball and play nice little flicks and triangle passes in the middle of the pitch causing little or no effect whatsoever. Surely he must be playing to orders.
 
in this moment mancini is at Genoa -sampdoria game- scouting Obiang and Icardi.

but , maybe , he's already working for his next club..... LOL
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
grim up north said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
For a start your blaming the pitches which is just laughable, then you blame Khaldoon for some ridiculous reason, Mancini has had hundreds of millions to spend but has wasted it on either players who don't fit in with our system ie Dzeko or just crap like Savic and Nasri. Your whole post pretty much sums up Mancini as a chequebook manager. The likes of Klopp and Mourinho have brought amazing success without ridiculous funds. Then you can add in the european factor which is indefensible Mancini is just poor in europe end off. One point of Ajax ffs.


Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager?
What did he achieve at Porto without huge funds?


Oh please
 
mostonbluemark said:
DD said:
So are we saying that the only thing that makes a successful team is throwing money at the situation? How on earth can anyone blame Khaldoon for this? We are all aware that we have just posted a £95 million annual loss and this needs to be drastically reduced. There comes a point when a manager has to do his bit in the way of coaching, management and tactics. The fact is Mancini is a chequebook manager who gets by in life by signing expensive players. We could all do that.

Bobby wanted Van Persie and Hazard and for the same money those two might have cost he got Garcia, Sinclair, Wright et al. That had nothing to do with Marwood as inevitably everything goes through Khaldoon. Thats what i don't understand. I understand about FFP, we are all experts on this by now thanks to our more knowledgeable posters, i supported the club stance in the summer on agents fees. But after all that we could still have got the two players Bobby wanted for the same outlay. Thats what puzzles me. Can't blame Bobby for that.
We did all we could to get Hazard but he chose us over Chelsea. And how could we have got RVP when we already had 4 big name strikers on huge wages three of which Mancini brought in and then wanted another one. The signings were poor but two of them Garcia and Maicon I would bet my life that they were Mancini signings.
 
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