Mancini out? (merged)

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OB1 said:
Blue2112 said:
mostonbluemark said:
There is no doubt Bobby was let down by the Club in the summer particularly failing to sign Hazard and Van Persie. So in that respect, in my opinion, the blame doesn't fall on Bobbys shoulders but firmly at the feet of Khaldoon. I just hope for all our sakes that he gets the support he does deserve in the summer and we can all end this monthly/weekly/daily pantomime that goes on on this forum surrounding the managers future. Bobby should be here for the long haul, he's earnt that chance but Khaldoon needs to pull his finger out and give the manager the right tools to do the job. He identified all the issues that would bite us on the arse this season in trying to defend the title and was given one solution, Nastisic. Here's hoping for the summer.

Whilst not disagreeing with your points the team we had out last night should have been more than capable of handling Southampton. Of course it doesn't always work out like that but it was the manner in which we lost that is the concern more so than the actual losee itself. Mancini afterwards expressed the opinion that next week there will be changes and only players who want to fight will be in the team. So i'm guessing it's going to be Vinny, Zabba and Milner v Leeds on they're own.


I'm sorry but I'm getting tired of trying to be polite to all my fellow Blues; frankly it is delusional to think that Bobby does not share a huge part of the blame for our form this season. I'm disappointed that he did not get all the players he wanted when he wanted them but he has enough resources to be doing better.

Yesterday's performance was not all Bobby's fault: you can't legislate for error's like Hart's and Barry's but we still should have had enough to beat Southampton. That performance was absolutely disgraceful and the players have to look at themselves but it also highlighted faults that are not new in the team, that are not new this season and that should have been addressed by the manager.

I'd love Bobby to put things right but how long does he need to do thing s like getting his team fit enough and disciplined enough to play a pressing game and step up to it when your opponents do what Saints did yesterday?
That's a good point

If you look at Barcelona they are far far fitter than our players. Maybe unfair to bencmark us against Barcelona, but when we played Dortmund the players, manager and fans I think were taken aback by the workrate of Dortmund at our ground.

We have stood still and become complacent.

I'd like to see City respond, and if mancini can re-focus the players and get them back to something like their best, as he did last season, that will be an achievement. He still has a lot of goodwill
 
grim up north said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
grim up north said:
Fantastic great manager. Mancin didn't spend a rite lot at Lazio and Fiorentina and did great also
Won the CL did he?
Do you really think Mancini is a better manager than Mourinho?

Never said that. Your point was Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager.
And at Porto he proved he is not
 
OB1 said:
Blue2112 said:
Have to say I can't understand the way Nasri has played since coming here. I used to watch him at Arsenal pick the ball up and run at defenders going past them with ease playing a nice one two and getting a shot off at goal. Here he's hardly done nothing more than pick up the ball and play nice little flicks and triangle passes in the middle of the pitch causing little or no effect whatsoever. Surely he must be playing to orders.

Or disobeying them; in which case, he should not be selected.

Why isn't he under orders to get the ball and run at defenders?

Apart from Tevez on occasions and Yaya when released upfront which bizzarely I can't recall happening more than a few occasions this season we don't have anyone capable of head down running at the opposition.
 
OB1 said:
Blue2112 said:
Have to say I can't understand the way Nasri has played since coming here. I used to watch him at Arsenal pick the ball up and run at defenders going past them with ease playing a nice one two and getting a shot off at goal. Here he's hardly done nothing more than pick up the ball and play nice little flicks and triangle passes in the middle of the pitch causing little or no effect whatsoever. Surely he must be playing to orders.

Or disobeying them; in which case, he should not be selected.

Why isn't he under orders to get the ball and run at defenders?


He was a very good player at Arsenal, a dangerous one. Like Dzeko at Wolsburg.

Mancini's tactics made them look like bad footballers really. They arent clearly but will always look like at City under Mancini.

I really hope Txiki has enough in his brain to know not to sell these players under with losses before an another manager can try it with them and turn them into very good and useful players for us played by the right way in the right positions and getting out the best of our players.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
grim up north said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Won the CL did he?
Do you really think Mancini is a better manager than Mourinho?

Never said that. Your point was Mouriniho is not a cheque book manager.
And at Porto he proved he is not

At Chelsea and Madrid he proved he was. Look at all the facts and then give a balanced arguement. Same as Mancini and his spending record
 
OB1 said:
Blue2112 said:
Apart from Tevez on occasions and Yaya when released upfront which bizzarely I can't recall happening more than a few occasions this season we don't have anyone capable of head down running at the opposition.

Sinclair?

Clever dick...Ok i'll rephrase anybody that gets selected ;-)
 
Marvin said:
That's a good point

If you look at Barcelona they are far far fitter than our players. Maybe unfair to bencmark us against Barcelona, but when we played Dortmund the players, manager and fans I think were taken aback by the workrate of Dortmund at our ground.

We have stood still and become complacent.

I'd like to see City respond, and if mancini can re-focus the players and get them back to something like their best, as he did last season, that will be an achievement. He still has a lot of goodwill

The reason Barca are so fit is because Pep changed their training when he took over and players like Xavi, Iniesta had to step to it.

Orur players should never be in the position where their opponents can outwork them: that is unacceptable for champions.
 
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