Mancini out? (merged)

[Chippy_boy]

It's also my understanding that Mancini was never seen by the owners as the ideal choice for our long-term manager

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

In Abu Dhabi, during the grand prix.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

In Abu Dhabi, during the grand prix.

Don't say any more, mate, the piranhas will be all over you like a rash. Happened to me yesterday on the Mourinho thread, I was proved to be telling the truth and not a single one said "sorry".

Honestly, tt isn't worth the aggro mate. Billy will tell you too over Balo.

 

[bobmcfc]

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

In Abu Dhabi, during the grand prix.

Don't say any more, mate, the piranhas will be all over you like a rash. Happened to me yesterday on the Mourinho thread, I was proved to be telling the truth and not a single one said "sorry".

Honestly, tt isn't worth the aggro mate. Billy will tell you too over Balo.

Wow, they are a pair of gobshites our chairman and owner aren't they.

 

[waspish]

What evidence is there that our owners would sack Mancini?

 

[LoveCity]

So... Monaco have reestablished contact with Mancini's camp according to Sportmediaset! The article says they're willing to take him on IMMEDIATELY and that Vieira would become temporary City manager.

If this were true, something tells me that proposed Tevez/Nasri double deal to Monaco would be off! I think they'd be two of the last City players he'd want given Tevezgate and Nasri being a lazy arse and letting Mancini down so often.

 

[Chippy_boy]

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

In Abu Dhabi, during the grand prix.

Don't say any more, mate, the piranhas will be all over you like a rash. Happened to me yesterday on the Mourinho thread, I was proved to be telling the truth and not a single one said "sorry".

Honestly, tt isn't worth the aggro mate. Billy will tell you too over Balo.

Good advice I am sure. Probably best if I say no more.

 

[mgreenz97]

I'm not saying I want him gone but if we did leave I wouldn't be particularly disappointed.
Watching Madrid play against United, and watching the way Juve play made me realise how dull our playing style is at times, not to mention the fact that recently, it hasn't been putting points on the table.
If he does go, I don't know who could replace him.

 

[Seosa]

I do admire the loyalty to Mancini but as its been said, we cannot afford to regress at this stage. Sticking with Mancini means handing him another cheque-book, and his transfer record is poor. People might mention Yaya, Silva & Kun but these were players the club was already looking at, Mancini merely had to say "yes".

At a club like Newcastle, he'd probably take 4th place season after season, but we're too far past that stage now. I'm repeating what others have said but it's true, you cannot underestimate the impact this season would have on the club, regarding stance in England & Europe, possible signings & the current squad. Mancini has blown a huge chance to take a big step forward, we cannot chance the same happening to the club as a whole.

 

[Anonymous]

So... Monaco have reestablished contact with Mancini's camp according to Sportmediaset! The article says they're willing to take him on IMMEDIATELY and that Vieira would become temporary City manager.

If this were true, something tells me that proposed Tevez/Nasri double deal to Monaco would be off! I think they'd be two of the last City players he'd want given Tevezgate and Nasri being a lazy arse and letting Mancini down so often.

Eurgh. Monaco. If Mancini ends up there it'll be the ultimate vindication of my feelings about the guy.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

So... Monaco have reestablished contact with Mancini's camp according to Sportmediaset! The article says they're willing to take him on IMMEDIATELY and that Vieira would become temporary City manager.

If this were true, something tells me that proposed Tevez/Nasri double deal to Monaco would be off! I think they'd be two of the last City players he'd want given Tevezgate and Nasri being a lazy arse and letting Mancini down so often.

Where's this from, mate? Link?

 

[dan.j.mcfc]

I do admire the loyalty to Mancini but as its been said, we cannot afford to regress at this stage. Sticking with Mancini means handing him another cheque-book, and his transfer record is poor. People might mention Yaya, Silva & Kun but these were players the club was already looking at, Mancini merely had to say "yes".

At a club like Newcastle, he'd probably take 4th place season after season, but we're too far past that stage now. I'm repeating what others have said but it's true, you cannot underestimate the impact this season would have on the club, regarding stance in England & Europe, possible signings & the current squad. Mancini has blown a huge chance to take a big step forward, we cannot chance the same happening to the club as a whole.

Every word of this is bang on!

 

[Rolee]

It's also my understanding that Mancini was never seen by the owners as the ideal choice for our long-term manager

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

Seems odd that they gave him that 5 year contract if this is true.

 

[Seosa]

So... Monaco have reestablished contact with Mancini's camp according to Sportmediaset! The article says they're willing to take him on IMMEDIATELY and that Vieira would become temporary City manager.

If this were true, something tells me that proposed Tevez/Nasri double deal to Monaco would be off! I think they'd be two of the last City players he'd want given Tevezgate and Nasri being a lazy arse and letting Mancini down so often.

Where's this from, mate? Link?

Sportsmediaset, but I'm sure their record is shoddy.

Either way, fingers crossed, I'd love to see Vieira take over for the rest of the season.

 

[LoveCity]

So... Monaco have reestablished contact with Mancini's camp according to Sportmediaset! The article says they're willing to take him on IMMEDIATELY and that Vieira would become temporary City manager.

If this were true, something tells me that proposed Tevez/Nasri double deal to Monaco would be off! I think they'd be two of the last City players he'd want given Tevezgate and Nasri being a lazy arse and letting Mancini down so often.

Where's this from, mate? Link?

Here's where I found it in Italian:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=424488" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=424488</a>

I can't find it on the Mediaset site because it's too confusing to navigate in Italian.

Here's an English translation:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.eatsleepsport.com/manchester-city/mancini-to-monaco-link-resurfaces-1546560.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.eatsleepsport.com/manchester ... 46560.html</a>

 

[Anonymous]

It's also my understanding that Mancini was never seen by the owners as the ideal choice for our long-term manager

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

Seems odd that they gave him that 5 year contract if this is true.

Did you find it odd that Adam Johnson got a new contract less than a year before he was sold ? Or that Mourinho got one last summer after winning the league yet is nailed on to be sacked this summer ?

 

[Seosa]

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

Seems odd that they gave him that 5 year contract if this is true.

Did you find it odd that Adam Johnson got a new contract less than a year before he was sold ? Or that Mourinho got one last summer after winning the league yet is nailed on to be sacked this summer ?

Exactly, contracts mean fuck all. When will people realise that?

 

[Rolee]

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

Seems odd that they gave him that 5 year contract if this is true.

Did you find it odd that Adam Johnson got a new contract less than a year before he was sold ? Or that Mourinho got one last summer after winning the league yet is nailed on to be sacked this summer ?

Johnson, no, protecting an asset. How long was Mourinho's?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Seems odd that they gave him that 5 year contract if this is true.

Did you find it odd that Adam Johnson got a new contract less than a year before he was sold ? Or that Mourinho got one last summer after winning the league yet is nailed on to be sacked this summer ?

Exactly, contracts mean fuck all. When will people realise that?

Most do, to be fair.

 

[Anonymous]

Exactly, contracts mean fuck all. When will people realise that?

Di Matteo got a new contract last summer too.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:00 pm --<br /><br />

How long was Mourinho's?

The relevance of that question is directly proportionate to the relevance of your original point.

 

[the goats backside]

It's also my understanding that Mancini was never seen by the owners as the ideal choice for our long-term manager

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

I am not privy to info but when you sit down and think about it that makes sense. Also explains the reluctance to spend big last summer. In a bizarre way winning the league has put us back, for how long we don't know. After all we had just won the league, so how far could we regress. Well the evidence was there for all to see last weekend, a non performance that has been coming for a while. Our summer signings were beyond madness, we have spent the last 5 years or more getting our deadwood out and now we have added to the list. We will not recoup the fee we paid for any we need to get rid of