Mancini out? (merged)

[Rolee]

Do you get some perverse kick out of being an arrogant patronising prick?

A polite and respectful way to answer a query, fair play Chippy Boy. Take note Billy.

How about practicing what you preach?

Eh?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

Let me assure you, the above isn't correct. Mancini was always first choice.

I think the word you are looking for is "third", rather than first. Mourinho and Hiddink turned us down. Mancini offered himself for six months and was given it on that basis.

 

[Anonymous]

Do you get some perverse kick out of being an arrogant patronising prick?

A polite and respectful way to answer a query, fair play Chippy Boy. Take note Billy.

How about practicing what you preach?

Eh?

Haha. You're on a roll. I'd suggest going away, collecting what limited thoughts you have, and coming back with something beyond "he got a five year contract - Moo - five year contract - Moo - Forza Bobby". You don't want to be patronised, then don't act the fool.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I can say for a fact that this is true. I have never been ITK about anything but a couple of months before Christmas by some weird chance I did become party to some dialogue between the Sheik and Khaldoon. They were more than clear that Mancini was not the long term choice and that they wanted Guardiola at the end of the season at the latest, Christmas if they could get him. I was shocked when he went to Munich, but I guess in the end he just did not want to come to Manchester and we couldn't persuade him.

And where did you become party to this dialogue ?

Let me assure you, the above isn't correct. Mancini was always first choice.

He was the first choice to fill in when Hughes got sacked. He was absolutely NOT the first choice to get the job on a longer term basis. The owners were actively talking to Mourinho and Hiddink about coming in that summer, after Mancini came in December. That is absolute gospel.

 

[inchy14]

How about practicing what you preach?

Eh?

Haha. You're on a roll. I'd suggest going away, collecting what limited thoughts you have, and coming back with something beyond "he got a five year contract - Moo - five year contract - Moo - Forza Bobby". You don't want to be patronised, then don't act the fool.

Think you're proving his point for him now.

If you don't agree then fine but taking your current stance is making you look like an arse.

 

[Rolee]

How about practicing what you preach?

Eh?

Haha. You're on a roll. I'd suggest going away, collecting what limited thoughts you have, and coming back with something beyond "he got a five year contract - Moo - five year contract - Moo - Forza Bobby". You don't want to be patronised, then don't act the fool.

I'm simply asking why give the man such a long extension on his contract when he is not seen as long term. I don't think I deserve to be patronised in the way I am.

What is that you have in quotes, is that supposed to be representative of what I have said?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Can we all chill out a bit please?

Rolee - as me and others have tried to explain, a 5 year contract means nothing in itself. It all depends what's in it, what penalties there are, what compensation arrangements have been agreed, etc.

I work on a contract basis and usually of 3 months at a time. One client wanted to reduce my rate but was prepared to offer me a 12 month contract as a quid pro quo. However there was a 4-week notice clause in the contract and when the money ran out for the project we were wroking on they exercised that 6 months in. In the end, the 12 months meant nothing.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Eh?

Haha. You're on a roll. I'd suggest going away, collecting what limited thoughts you have, and coming back with something beyond "he got a five year contract - Moo - five year contract - Moo - Forza Bobby". You don't want to be patronised, then don't act the fool.

I'm simply asking why give the man such a long extension on his contract when he is not seen as long term. I don't think I deserve to be patronised in the way I am.

What is that you have in quotes, is that supposed to be representative of what I have said?

If you read the last two pages you have been given your answer as to why he was given the contract he was. I'm afraid the fact that you don't appear to really understand employment law is noone else's fault.

 

[NipHolmes]

Rolee, you can see I put some effort in and you reply with a basic two liner. Put some effort in ffs.

They had no choice but to give him contract, what can you not understand?!?

He just won title, no outstanding other candidates either. Mancini or any other manager worth his salt would've haggled hard and made sure they were set for life when discussing terms. Good wage and long contract or no signing of contract.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Rolee, you can see I put some effort in and you reply with a basic two liner. Put some effort in ffs.

They had no choice but to give him contract, what can you not understand?!?

He just won title, no outstanding other candidates either. Mancini or any other manager worth his salt would've haggled hard and made sure they were set for life when discussing terms. Good wage and long contract or no signing of contract.

Just to add to that accurate summation, i'm sure they will have hoped that he took the club onwards, too.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm simply asking why give the man such a long extension on his contract when he is not seen as long term. I don't think I deserve to be patronised in the way I am.

I don't think me mildly ribbing you with a bit of a patronising is worthy of the 'prick' comment either. I also believe you've got form for dishing out wanton abuse when faced with people who don't agree with you about something. So forgive me if I'm not rushing to sympathise with your mock indignation. As others have said, the answer to your question is there if you look hard enough. The fact you need it spoon fed is no-one's fault but your own.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:57 pm --<br /><br />

Rolee, you can see I put some effort in and you reply with a basic two liner. Put some effort in ffs.

Bang on mate ... there's a few who like to ask questions, then when answered ask more questions, without ever really attempting to give an interesting perspective of their own. I suppose that does get on my tits and it's why I was taking the piss a little with Rolee.

 

[Moody]

It's not love, it's respect.

That's sweet.

So you think Mancini had a stronger negotiating hand than the Sheikh?

Shall I get a spoon and a bib and feed you properly ?

What a condescending twat you really are Billy.

hey guys come on just because we don't agree with one another on the topic lets remeber we all wants whats best for the club

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I'm simply asking why give the man such a long extension on his contract when he is not seen as long term. I don't think I deserve to be patronised in the way I am.

I don't think me mildly ribbing you with a bit of a patronising is worthy of the 'prick' comment either. I also believe you've got form for dishing out wanton abuse when faced with people who don't agree with you about something. So forgive me if I'm not rushing to sympathise with your mock indignation. As others have said, the answer to your question is there if you look hard enough. The fact you need it spoon fed is no-one's fault but your own.

-- Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:57 pm --

Rolee, you can see I put some effort in and you reply with a basic two liner. Put some effort in ffs.

Bang on mate ... there's a few who like to ask questions, then when answered ask more questions, without ever really attempting to give an interesting perspective of their own. I suppose that does get on my tits and it's why I was taking the piss a little with Rolee.

Take a Chill Pill, Bill.

There are a number of very bitter, let down and confused people popping up here from The Cellar trying to start fires at the moment. Gets worse at night. You know who they are ;-)

 

[Matt the Giant]

Just thinking; when exactly did Mancini sign that new extended contract?
A month or so after out PL winning season?

Couldn't it have been a part of the original contract, a clause which said if Mancini wins the title (that season) he would have then an option to sing an extension?
Maybe the club had no choice but to prolong the contract.

 

[Moody]

Just thinking; when exactly did Mancini sign that new extended contract?
A month or so after out PL winning season?

Couldn't it have been a part of the original contract, a clause which said if Mancini wins the title (that season) he would have then an option to sing an extension?
Maybe the club had no choice but to prolong the contract.

to be honest mate i don't the contract is anything to worry about

 

[Anonymous]

What a condescending twat you really are Billy.

I've been spending hours studying the posting techniques of the big hitters down in the Cellar and it seems I'm slowly but surely getting there.

 

[Rolee]

I'd be careful if I were you Matt. They don't like questions.

 

[Matt the Giant]

Just thinking; when exactly did Mancini sign that new extended contract?
A month or so after out PL winning season?

Couldn't it have been a part of the original contract, a clause which said if Mancini wins the title (that season) he would have then an option to sing an extension?
Maybe the club had no choice but to prolong the contract.

to be honest mate i don't the contract is anything to worry about

I'm not worried at all... just seemed like a possible explanation to that very long extension.
I'm sure if we decided to part with Mancini it wouldn't be as expensive as many might fear. Some sort of deal must be in place for such a situation.

I'd be careful if I were you Matt. They don't like questions.

But they do mate... just depends on who's asking them. ;)

 

[Moody]

I honestly think he is going at the end of the season anyway and that city will go in for mourinho. and it would certainly be a great upgrade on manager and i would'nt put it past him to go and win the champions league and prem with us in his first season. mancini has really got us playing a depressing way. too slow build up play we counter attack sideways and often pass the ball to the back four when our players run out of ideas and can't see a pass. are movement is shocking too, and no forward staying upfront while defending corners wtf, we lack width and pace too many players out of position. he's always putting players down in public the list is endless. you can say the club are to blame as they did'nt get his main targets but it was mancini who brought us kolarov,dzeko,mario,nasri he has'nt exactly got them performing so who's to say he would of got the best out of van persie and hazard i honestly think if you put van persie in our team he would hate our style of play and you would'nt get the same amount of goals out of him as his time at arsenal look how much our forwards are struggling for goals its not because of lack of quality is it.

MANCINI OUT

 

[the goats backside]

What a condescending twat you really are Billy.

I've been spending hours studying the posting techniques of the big hitters down in the Cellar and it seems I'm slowly but surely getting there.

Cellarites coming upstairs and saying someone is condescending is er...... condescending