Mancini out? (merged)

[Anonymous]

Totally, man. I have been critical of Bobby recently but it's the Mourinho factor I'm more torn on.

Success could almost be a given, but the cons equal up to the pros.

What negatives could equal success?

Loyalty, ego, etc. It's all about Jose.

Would I have him here? Yes. But only just.

He's no different to Mancini. Well, Mancini's less successful, but that's about it. Otherwise similar character, similar personality, similar attitudes.

 

[Seosa]

I do agree that we should probably say "fuck it" to FFP this summer and really throw ourselves into the elite, and Jose would no doubt aid that substantially.

Like I said, it's a Yes but a torn Yes.

 

[blueinsa]

What negatives could equal success?

Loyalty, ego, etc. It's all about Jose.

Would I have him here? Yes. But only just.

He's no different to Mancini. Well, Mancini's less successful, but that's about it. Otherwise similar character, similar personality, similar attitudes.

None so blind as those.......

Ego= Bobs always right, its never his fault....

Loyalty= Is that loyalty admitting you had touted yourself around half of Europe?

Football is football and many need to get a grasp back of the realities of it.

 

[NipHolmes]

Quite mixed on this one, tbh.

You're not the only one, mate.

Totally, man. I have been critical of Bobby recently but it's the Mourinho factor I'm more torn on.

Success could almost be a given, but the cons equal up to the pros.

One things for sure, the board must offer job as coach and restrict his control on the club.

We can do great things together but the clubs no.1. No internal wars etc, coaching and managing and liasing with Txiki. Work as two not one. I suspecy Txiki will say no even at the slightest hint Jose wants more authority than offered.

Will say this, if it comes off we will imo win the CL in the next 3-4 years. Could even the most confident of Mancini fans can say this.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

I suppose when you can choose City or the biggest club in the world in Real Madrid its a hard choice.

Rather than find negative just be thankful we are in the big league now.

I'm happy as a pig in shit right now.

Just hope Txiki signs him up. It's anything but sure!

I think the sheikh will have the last say tbh
I didnt know he had fucked us over twice as tolmie says
Be interesting to see what happens
The money is still coming in for him to chelsea down to evens in the last few days
He is drifting on a daily basis in the betting to come here.
Who knows...

People kept saying but you and others didnt want to listen.

I don't think many sections of our fans realise just how much failing in Europe means. That's why Mancini went from Inter, he'd already conquered serie a but he couldn't move to the next step.

If you ever read my main reasoning its Europe and the fact our club plan a overhaul. If you look at Inter Bobby set the foundations and Jose added the finishing touches and won the CL. We are at the same point exactly.

Anyway, nothing is done so not gettin excited but imo getting Jose is as promising as getting Falcao etc.

If he does come here I hope for apologies for slurs aboyt being a shit fan etc. Some red faces will be on these boards in due time.

Ole, ole, ole, ole,
Joseeeee, joseeeee

I can only assume he has been told dont bother applying for the rags job
Everyone knows thats the one he craved
I'm not really interested in the castles story as he has linked us to 5 dif managers in the last 6 months,to cover his arse
Obviously if mourinho's people have been in touch as tolmie says it puts it in another light
I would be suprised if tixi had the final say,surely that would be down to Khaldoun.
Watch this space i guess
Am sat here with a large bet i had on him going to the chavs :)

 

[Seosa]

You're not the only one, mate.

Totally, man. I have been critical of Bobby recently but it's the Mourinho factor I'm more torn on.

Success could almost be a given, but the cons equal up to the pros.

One things for sure, the board must offer job as coach and restrict his control on the club.

We can do great things together but the clubs no.1. No internal wars etc, coaching and managing and liasing with Txiki. Work as two not one. I suspecy Txiki will say no even at the slightest hint Jose wants more authority than offered.

Will say this, if it comes off we will imo win the CL in the next 3-4 years. Could even the most confident of Mancini fans can say this.

Fully agree, tbh.

By loyalty, I wasn't defending Mancini because his own whoring irritated me, tbh. It's Jose's fondness of Chelsea and his eye on the Scum, though surely if he picks us, then Utd is out of the question.

 

[levets]

Laughable comment. Half a dozen loudmouths on this forum do represent "most".

The overwhelming majority of City fans, if Mancini went, would love Mourinho in charge and would have him as their number one choice.

Dave i've mentioned this before, i go in a minibus everyweek with the same 8 guys, now while i know we're not talking for everyone, not 1, not 1 of us wants him. In fact none of us want Mancini replacing..

Now while that may not sit nicely with your view of the situation, it shows that it isn't the overwhelming majority who do want him.

I didn't say the majority of city fans want Mancini to go. I said if he went I believe the overwhelming majority would want mourinho as his replacement. Only my opinion of course

I agree with that statement. I have said many times to you dave that JM is the ONLY possible reason for replacing RM. Anybody else, no thanks.. I prefer to stick!

BUT it is a fact, undeniable fact... that the VAST majority of match going blues (home or away) are happy with Mancini. You only need to listen. Some people listen but do not hear though! ;-)

 

[George Hannah]

Some red faces will be on these boards in due time.
Ole, ole, ole, ole,
Joseeeee, joseeeee

too many already (although they try to make out they are blue)

 

[andyhinch]

Some red faces will be on these boards in due time.
Ole, ole, ole, ole,
Joseeeee, joseeeee

too many already (although they try to make out they are blue)

Err what if we turn him down? I've always sat on the fence a bit other than supporting our manager

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Some red faces will be on these boards in due time.
Ole, ole, ole, ole,
Joseeeee, joseeeee

too many already (although they try to make out they are blue)

Err what if we turn him down? I've always sat on the fence a bit other than supporting our manager

Then there will be even more red faces on here :)

 

[George Hannah]

Some red faces will be on these boards in due time.
Ole, ole, ole, ole,
Joseeeee, joseeeee

too many already (although they try to make out they are blue)

Err what if we turn him down? I've always sat on the fence a bit other than supporting our manager

I suspect my point has escaped you

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Do you think the rags have made him aware they dont want him
And maybe chelsea too?

I'd be stunned if Chelsea did not want him, perhaps too many egos, but that can always be worked out.

As for United, said it before, that Pep move to Bayern was a holding pattern one for me.

I think he has been promised the job by Ferguson and Bayern is a convenient fit for all concerned for next three years.

I always thought Paris would appeal, but Billy insists it's not a big enough league for him.

It comes down to how much power Begiristain wants I suppose, but a bit of contrition, certainly from Jose, certainly won't do us any harm.

This might come down for the first time what Sheikh Mansour wants, rather than anyone else, although, again, that's just an opinion.

 

[BooksReject]

Im a big Mancini supporter, and whilst he is still our Manager I will be right behind him. I will never forget that he was our Manager when I had my most emotional moment in my long life as a City supporter, and Aguero is right up there too.

But this is modern football, and we need to be realists, not idealists. It's a possibility that Ferguson wouldn't have lasted at scum had his early record there been in the modern age.

Stability is almost always a good thing in football, but look at Arsenal.

Ideally, I would love Bobby to manage us to another title, then another, a Champions League win, then another, I love the man, but realistically I am now beginning to understand that sustained success at this level may just be a step too far for him.

Realistically it would seem, according to Tolm, that Jose is on his way, and a big clearout will probably see Aguero go too. Realistically, in the long run, all this will be beneficial to City as we all want the League, to win the Champions League, and to be THE dominant force in English football and compete with the very best in Europe.

As a Mancini admirer, I feel sad to my stomach. As a realist, I admit to flutterings of excitement.

 

[NipHolmes]

To answer seosa and tcm I point to Bobby Charlton, he was telling with the Jose no chance of managing United quote.

Imo they want Pep. Fergie may stay on till Pep finishes at Bayern. Don't rule out Moyes either.

Chelsea offer a great return but a manager whos sacked him and tinkers with the team still now.

Its us or PSG imo, I'm kinda hoping PSG win their league and keep Carlo.

If I was a rag, I'd shit myself looking to the future against City and Jose. Better squad and imho better manager, also factor in the owners.

Tick fucking tock.

Edit, just noticed th agreed with pep to united, hope there's no basis to that opinion.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Do you think the rags have made him aware they dont want him
And maybe chelsea too?

I'd be stunned if Chelsea did not want him, perhaps too many egos, but that can always be worked out.

As for United, said it before, that Pep move to Bayern was a holding pattern one for me.

I think he has been promised the job by Ferguson and Bayern is a convenient fit for all concerned for next three years.

I always thought Paris would appeal, but Billy insists it's not a big enough league for him.

It comes down to how much power Begiristain wants I suppose, but a bit of contrition, certainly from Jose, certainly won't do us any harm.

This might come down for the first time what Sheikh Mansour wants, rather than anyone else, although, again, that's just an opinion.

100% on that without a doubt,think we mentioned this when he joined bayern
And mourinho knows this to
Like you said its down to the sheikh.

 

[Petetheblu]

Just can't see jose coming to city, not with our Spanish duo. Could be wrong.

My gut feeling is that he's after publicity to get himself some top buck at his next appointment.

The only positive l can see is that the bayern's job has gone, chelsea will be dodgy after last time and united could still have slur Thirstpisscan.

And l don't know why but jose fills me with excitement and dread, dread due to his short term philosophy. Although he is one of the greatest managers out there.

 

[Seosa]

As for United, said it before, that Pep move to Bayern was a holding pattern one for me.

I think he has been promised the job by Ferguson and Bayern is a convenient fit for all concerned for next three years.

Funny, because I always thought Mourinho v Guardiola would occur again in a Manchester Derby, but that Pep would be with us.

Hmm...

 

[Rolee]

As for United, said it before, that Pep move to Bayern was a holding pattern one for me.

I think he has been promised the job by Ferguson and Bayern is a convenient fit for all concerned for next three years.

Funny, because I always thought Mourinho v Guardiola would occur again in a Manchester Derby, but that Pep would be with us.

Hmm...

It won't happen, if Jose comes to us this summer he'll be long gone before Pep gets the U*d job.

 

[Seosa]

As for United, said it before, that Pep move to Bayern was a holding pattern one for me.

I think he has been promised the job by Ferguson and Bayern is a convenient fit for all concerned for next three years.

Funny, because I always thought Mourinho v Guardiola would occur again in a Manchester Derby, but that Pep would be with us.

Hmm...

It won't happen, if Jose comes to us this summer he'll be long gone before Pep gets the U*d job.

Depends. His next role could be his last before the Portgual job becomes available. Maybe he craves a bit of longevity.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Next year will see the holy trinity...

...Jose, Tranny and Nike who will happily help pay the bills ;-)

Those three would put £100m on turnover, fill a 60k stadium, kill FFP and get us challenging for the champions league.

First things first look at Jose v Fergieslum head to head.

Look at Europe success and factor in Jose had Chelsea playing 4-3-3

Ronaldo respects Jose and both have Mendes as agent. You could be right Dave. We could end up with Ronaldo and Jose. Amazing.

Aguero going the other way is likely if Ronaldo cones though, people must consider this. Ca Va Niiiii.

Forget Ronaldo - no chance IMO.

Of more interest might be Falcao, another Mendes client. They would go for Neymar I think before Ronaldo, again, Zahavi, has a lot of fingers in a lot of pies.