Mancini/Pellegrini rumours (10/05/13) (cont)

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Lomas has a lob on said:
Having finally read through this thread, I think one thing that everyone seems to agree on is the timing of this story. Its shit and it seems its designed to try and destablise us on today of all days.

On Mancini I would class myself as a fence sitter, I will always hold him in high regard for winning us our first silverware in three decades, and for taking the title from the red twats, and for some great signings and great football.
I feel he cant take us much further though, certain games and teams he seems to just have no answers to, I dont like the public falling out that seems to occur with him, and europe seems a real problem for him, not just with City, but at Inter he also struggled with this competition.

So I can see both sides of the coin in regards to the inners and outers, but some of the comments are well over the top. Our owners have done very little if anything wrong since they have come here. I believe they have earnt our trust and if this a club decision then we need to trust the powers that be and see if another big decsion of theirs is proved correct.
If its Mancini decison, then fair play, I'd thank him for all he's done and wish him all the best.

The timing is shit, everything else is just football.

Bang on the money, my friend. Bang on the money.
Astonishes me that a deviously well timed rumour turns this site into civil war, on what should be one of the happiest days in our recent history. Surely, this could be put to one side till after the final. Unbelievable Jeff.
 
Cadishead blue said:
@BluePhil8 said:
de niro said:
This is a fucking joke, lets face it we as a club are a fucking joke. I suppose the writing was in the wall when they refused bob the players he wanted last August , at the same time spurning the chance to kick on from our championship. We could, had we wanted to, have crushed the rags fergie or no fergie.

Amatures.

Au contraire, this is the clubs last chance to salvage our reputation.

Let's face it, for the last two years we have been dogged by controversy after controversy.

Mancini ostracising Tevez.
Our deterioration in Europe over two seasons.
Mancini having a physical altercation with Balotelli.
Mancini publicly criticising Hart, Kompany, Richards, Tevez, Aguero and Dzeko.
Failing to even attempt to defend our title.
Getting beat by Aston Villa at home in the League Cup.
Poor performances this season against Sunderland, Swansea, Southampton and a whole host of other teams.

You can't say we didn't back him. That is a lie.

If Mancini wanted De Rossi and Hazard, then he should understand that these are top caliber players, where negotiations can become difficult and protracted. Therefore you need back up options, but the players that he wanted like Garcia and Maicon have been colossal failures.

We have backed him with more cash than any other club would have, maybe if he didn't waste so much money on Dzeko, Nasri, Savic, Kolarov, Maicon, Garcia and Balotelli then we would have backed him more last summer.
Very very harsh one sided view!
Sorry, that did sound one sided.

I acknowledge that he has done well during his time with us. Winning the FA Cup and Premier League is a great achievement.

Signing Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Nastasic.

I just don't like how some people think the sun shines out of his arse and that he can do no wrong.

He is a good manager, but the best we could get? No.<br /><br />-- Sat May 11, 2013 10:12 am --<br /><br />
Shaelumstash said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Shaelumstash said:
Why what?
Why are you disgusted? Why is it a disgrace to sack Mancini?
The argument to sack Mancini is so ridiculous that I can't even take it seriously
Well it looks like Soriano and Begiristain are taking it seriously.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Cadishead blue said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Au contraire, this is the clubs last chance to salvage our reputation.

Let's face it, for the last two years we have been dogged by controversy after controversy.

Mancini ostracising Tevez.
Our deterioration in Europe over two seasons.
Mancini having a physical altercation with Balotelli.
Mancini publicly criticising Hart, Kompany, Richards, Tevez, Aguero and Dzeko.
Failing to even attempt to defend our title.
Getting beat by Aston Villa at home in the League Cup.
Poor performances this season against Sunderland, Swansea, Southampton and a whole host of other teams.

You can't say we didn't back him. That is a lie.

If Mancini wanted De Rossi and Hazard, then he should understand that these are top caliber players, where negotiations can become difficult and protracted. Therefore you need back up options, but the players that he wanted like Garcia and Maicon have been colossal failures.

We have backed him with more cash than any other club would have, maybe if he didn't waste so much money on Dzeko, Nasri, Savic, Kolarov, Maicon, Garcia and Balotelli then we would have backed him more last summer.
Very very harsh one sided view!
Sorry, that did sound one sided.

I acknowledge that he has done well during his time with us. Winning the FA Cup and Premier League is a great achievement.

Signing Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Nastasic.

I just don't like how some people think the sun shines out of his arse and that he can do no wrong.

He is a good manager, but the best we could get? No.

-- Sat May 11, 2013 10:12 am --

Shaelumstash said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Why are you disgusted? Why is it a disgrace to sack Mancini?
The argument to sack Mancini is so ridiculous that I can't even take it seriously
Well it looks like Soriano and Begiristain are taking it seriously.
Agree but Pellegrini? we need to stick with Mancini he is the best man for now & the near future,
 
Cadishead blue said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Cadishead blue said:
Very very harsh one sided view!
Sorry, that did sound one sided.

I acknowledge that he has done well during his time with us. Winning the FA Cup and Premier League is a great achievement.

Signing Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Nastasic.

I just don't like how some people think the sun shines out of his arse and that he can do no wrong.

He is a good manager, but the best we could get? No.

-- Sat May 11, 2013 10:12 am --

Shaelumstash said:
The argument to sack Mancini is so ridiculous that I can't even take it seriously
Well it looks like Soriano and Begiristain are taking it seriously.
Agree but Pellegrini? we need to stick with Mancini he is the best man for now & the near future,
Klopp.
 
Bluechipblue said:
Lomas has a lob on said:
Having finally read through this thread, I think one thing that everyone seems to agree on is the timing of this story. Its shit and it seems its designed to try and destablise us on today of all days.

On Mancini I would class myself as a fence sitter, I will always hold him in high regard for winning us our first silverware in three decades, and for taking the title from the red twats, and for some great signings and great football.
I feel he cant take us much further though, certain games and teams he seems to just have no answers to, I dont like the public falling out that seems to occur with him, and europe seems a real problem for him, not just with City, but at Inter he also struggled with this competition.

So I can see both sides of the coin in regards to the inners and outers, but some of the comments are well over the top. Our owners have done very little if anything wrong since they have come here. I believe they have earnt our trust and if this a club decision then we need to trust the powers that be and see if another big decsion of theirs is proved correct.
If its Mancini decison, then fair play, I'd thank him for all he's done and wish him all the best.

The timing is shit, everything else is just football.

Bang on the money, my friend. Bang on the money.
Astonishes me that a deviously well timed rumour turns this site into civil war, on what should be one of the happiest days in our recent history. Surely, this could be put to one side till after the final. Unbelievable Jeff.

We shall fight them in the bluemoon forum, we shall fight them in the the general forum, we shall fight them in the transfer forum and in the matchday forum, we shall never surrender !!!
 
From the Mirror so hopefully a load of shit, forever in MANCINI in MANCINI we trust, we can truly go on and dominate next season after SAF retired but only if MANCINI is in charge, it would be a stupid decision.
 
If Mancini is to go then the only man out there in my view who is better than him and available is probably Mourinho.Pellegrini just does nothing for me at all!
 
Shaun_Goater said:
From the Mirror so hopefully a load of shit, forever in MANCINI in MANCINI we trust, we can truly go on and dominate next season after SAF retired but only if MANCINI is in charge, it would be a stupid decision.
Not from the Mirror. Every news source in Spain is saying it is done and that Pelligrini has told his players he is leaving.
 
Shaun_Goater said:
From the Mirror so hopefully a load of shit, forever in MANCINI in MANCINI we trust, we can truly go on and dominate next season after SAF retired but only if MANCINI is in charge, it would be a stupid decision.
your going on like mancini is a great manager, i love the guy but there is definitely a lot better managers out there than him, hes a good manager though.
 
Klopp, fantastic job so far but would be a gamble we need to stick with Mancini! wait & see watch him grow the team & the club over the next few years he,s nobody's fool & takes no shit from the players which is whats requiered at a club like city & the ego's that some players have.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
Not from the Mirror. Every news source in Spain is saying it is done and that Pelligrini has told his players he is leaving.

Check the date , it was reported while ago:
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/paulbreenturner/status/329742284474167296" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/paulbreenturner/sta ... 4474167296</a>
 
I'll ask the question I asked a few hours ago.

Where is Graeme Hunter on SSN if there is any credence to this story?
 
Just checked various betting sites and pellegrini is odds on,. Bloody ludicrous to sack Mancini and I think it will set the club back years IMO. Mancini may want to leave of course if there are conflicts over transfer policies.
Timing of this very suspicious.
 
sam663 said:
@BluePhil8 said:
Not from the Mirror. Every news source in Spain is saying it is done and that Pelligrini has told his players he is leaving.

Check the date , it was reported while ago:
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/paulbreenturner/status/329742284474167296" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/paulbreenturner/sta ... 4474167296</a>
Yes, ten days ago. And your point is?
 
We haven't played consistantly well since Tevez came back.

Last season when Mancini sent Tevez packing the club backed him and the players respected him.

Since then he has had his authority eroded. No way Marwood would have messed him around if Mancini had the full authority from the powers that be. No way Balotelli would have been sold without a replacement.

Most of these battles have been of Mancini's own making. He's single minded and stubborn and he's normally right. If we had had a focused Balotelli for the season it would have solved a lot of problems. Trouble is he couldn't keep him focused. Don't think he's really got the appetite to play politics or massage egos.

Interesting to see what comes next. The change has been coming for a while but someone spoke out of turn and is going to pay for leaking plans on the eve of a cup final.

Cutting Guiliem Ballage's balls off would be a good place to start.
 
If Mancini goes ill be gutted just home from the game and I'm pissed off with our own today. Fans around me chatting shit - Wigan it seems should have just rolled over and let us win. Then the shit on here people spout. No wonder we were out of sorts with the unrest caused by these rumours and some of our own fans fanning the flames. People need to give there heads a wobble. The team the manager and the fans have been screwed today by all the unrest prior to an occasion that should have been exciting yet already we sound as arrogant as utd fans talking about how we are now at another level and rm not good enough for our expectations. Remember where the fuck we've come from ffs
 
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