Mancini to Juventus speculation

mcfc_die_hard said:
Didsbury Dave said:
I don't think he get a rough ride from the press particularly.

Have you any examples of this?

bellamy bust up which was utter bollocks.

hes lost the dressing room was utter bollocks.

the players was fuming with the training he was doing is utter bollocks.

What basis do you have for saying any of the above are "utter bollocks", apart from the fact that you don't like the stories?

It's my understanding that there is some truth in all of the above. I'm not saying the stories were exactly as reported, but they were all leaked from within the camp.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
mcfc_die_hard said:
bellamy bust up which was utter bollocks.

hes lost the dressing room was utter bollocks.

the players was fuming with the training he was doing is utter bollocks.

What basis do you have for saying any of the above are "utter bollocks", apart from the fact that you don't like the stories?

It's my understanding that there is some truth in all of the above. I'm not saying the stories were exactly as reported, but they were all leaked from within the camp.

maybe the players denying it
 
mcfc_die_hard said:
Didsbury Dave said:
What basis do you have for saying any of the above are "utter bollocks", apart from the fact that you don't like the stories?

It's my understanding that there is some truth in all of the above. I'm not saying the stories were exactly as reported, but they were all leaked from within the camp.

maybe the players denying it

If you ask me it's all "utter bollocks"
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Tez Tosterone said:
The negative press continually undermining the confidence between him and players. The problems the players have or had with his training regime. You must have noticed.

I don't think he get a rough ride from the press particularly.

Have you any examples of this?

Really? Irrespective of the doubtful truthfulness of some of the 'bust up' stories - the one with Bellamy at the very start being the most ridiculous - I have found some of the naysaying in the press extraordinary.
 
If Mancini can handle the Italian press, he can handle the English press. Got to have a thick skin to be a successful manager in Italy.
 
Braggster said:
Didsbury Dave said:
I don't think he get a rough ride from the press particularly.

Have you any examples of this?

Really? Irrespective of the doubtful truthfulness of some of the 'bust up' stories - the one with Bellamy at the very start being the most ridiculous - I have found some of the naysaying in the press extraordinary.

As far as I understand the story about the players having a boardroom revolt on the day Hughes was sacked weren't true.

The senior players were called to the boardroom and given the news, and I guess reacted with alarm.

But the Bellamy bustups did take place, and there are certainly some unhappy players in our dressing room.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
But the Bellamy bustups did take place, and there are certainly some unhappy players in our dressing room.
Yes, that's true. And the Bellamy Moyes thing did happen too I am reliably told. No smoke without fire I guess in this case.

Worries me that there is not harmony, but it's been a stressful season. Either way, player and coach options are limited to:

1) Don't perform and settle for Europe League

2) Give it a go regardless of whether you like everyone else in the squad.

The Mancini/Mourinho - Juve/Inter thing does not effect the fact that we have games to win this season. Fortunately for us, I think it's evident that everyone, Bellamy and Mancini most obviously, care a whole lot about winning.
 
If Roberto leaves then he does so with my best wishes and I wish him good luck with Juventus.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Braggster said:
Really? Irrespective of the doubtful truthfulness of some of the 'bust up' stories - the one with Bellamy at the very start being the most ridiculous - I have found some of the naysaying in the press extraordinary.

As far as I understand the story about the players having a boardroom revolt on the day Hughes was sacked weren't true.

The senior players were called to the boardroom and given the news, and I guess reacted with alarm.

But the Bellamy bustups did take place, and there are certainly some unhappy players in our dressing room.

I'm sure there are - wasn't really disputing that. My point was more that a lot of the commentary in the media on Mancini has been odd - no allowances made for the fact that he's new to the country, language, league and players, no respect given for his (significant) achievements, no comment on the fact that he has had £7million to spend while MH had £200m+, and so on. All of which is particularly odd given the allowances that many of these same journalists made for Hughes.

Fine, he might not get us fourth, and he might leave, but some of the press surrounding him has been hysterical and absurdly negative. IMO.
 
svennis pennis said:
Good luck to him. Much better suited to the italian game with his slow build up play and stand off tactics.

Would you be happy to see him leave? I think it's harsh that you've made a judgement on his style of play with him only being in charge for just over 3 months and only bringing in two players. As it happens i think Mancini's style of play is to have energetic players who have the ability to get up and down and press the opposition. Sadly though he's been left with a set of centre midfielders who are incapable of this so it's difficult for him to inplement his style of play when he's not got players who fit into it

Mariga and Gago are two players who are decent on the ball but also have the ability to get up and down and press a lot more than the midfielders we've currently got
 
Braggster said:
Didsbury Dave said:
As far as I understand the story about the players having a boardroom revolt on the day Hughes was sacked weren't true.

The senior players were called to the boardroom and given the news, and I guess reacted with alarm.

But the Bellamy bustups did take place, and there are certainly some unhappy players in our dressing room.

I'm sure there are - wasn't really disputing that. My point was more that a lot of the commentary in the media on Mancini has been odd - no allowances made for the fact that he's new to the country, language, league and players, no respect given for his (significant) achievements, no comment on the fact that he has had £7million to spend while MH had £200m+, and so on. All of which is particularly odd given the allowances that many of these same journalists made for Hughes.

Fine, he might not get us fourth, and he might leave, but some of the press surrounding him has been hysterical and absurdly negative. IMO.

Your opinion is valid of course mate. I just haven't really seen it myself. Ithink he gets a fairly easy ride in the press to be honest.
 
BillyShears said:
The paper is owned by the Agnelli family? Hmm, the plot thickens as they say...
don't our owners have a share in Ferrari or is it just the formula 1 team ? that could be the link with juventus ? keep him here till the summer
 
We have had unhappy players for as long as I remember.

Of course they will be unhappy with Mancini. He's actually a professional who probably takes a dim view of the off field antics of some and the distinct lack of ability of others.

It's not their job to like the manager. I imagine quite a few at United don't like the manager.

If there are some causing problems they will be shipped out. Quite a few of them don't know what success looks like to quote Cooke. Luckily the manager does.
 
It's a nonsense story being propagated by a few mischievous brats who think it will bring jose here. Grow up you fucking nonces.
 
alfienoakes said:
It's a nonsense story being propagated by a few mischievous brats who think it will bring jose here. Grow up you fucking nonces.
oh dear, do you know what a nonce is you twat,just read your top 6 prediction post and i was right you are a twat
 
Failsworth_Blue said:
svennis pennis said:
Good luck to him. Much better suited to the italian game with his slow build up play and stand off tactics.

Would you be happy to see him leave? I think it's harsh that you've made a judgement on his style of play with him only being in charge for just over 3 months and only bringing in two players. As it happens i think Mancini's style of play is to have energetic players who have the ability to get up and down and press the opposition. Sadly though he's been left with a set of centre midfielders who are incapable of this so it's difficult for him to inplement his style of play when he's not got players who fit into it

Mariga and Gago are two players who are decent on the ball but also have the ability to get up and down and press a lot more than the midfielders we've currently got
Is this why he signed Veira then? Agree Mariga would have been a great signing not sure about Gago as dont know too much about him.
if Mancini stays then great if Mourinho comes great as well, win win situation but think we need a sort out at end of season
 

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