Mancini

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Fuck it-lets just go back to the Alan Ball,Stuart Pearce days of utter mediocracy and winning jack shit hey because Mancini has made a few mistakes in europe and against the blue dippers.

Mancini gets unwarranted abuse on here. I know many a rag who hopes he does get the chop because they know he has rattled Fergie and they think with a little more backing he will come strong again next year.
This year hasn't exactly been a disaster has it?

I would say if a straw poll was taken re Mancini the outers would be approx 10% and the inners 90%

And I would say you're talking out of your arse

And a fantastic arse it is..Ask my wife.

LOL. I'm sure tis a thing of rare beauty! Perhaps a saucy pic for the readers?!

 

[M18CTID]

Surely you can see that consistantly failing in the champions league and consistantly failing in those fixtures shows that he cannot adjust his game and once plan A is found out that's it he's had it.

I have highlighted the error..We have been in the champions league for all of 2 seasons..not 20 like the rags...How long did it take the rags to get out of the group stage??? We are not consistently failing,just having to failed for 2 seasons..Last year we were unlucky with 10pts..This yr was a fucking tough group and Dortmund/Madrid were always favourites to get through and they are still in the last 8.
patience is a virtue..Not many on here have it

1 season

It's also worth pointing out that they didn't even qualify for the group stages first time around.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Some superb posts in here amongst the shite.

If you feel strongly that Mancini should go at the end of this term does anyone fancy putting together a piece for the Daisy Cutter about it?

If so get in touch via PM.

Get someone who will actually write about the subject this time. Last time didn't go so well.

That's a dig at BS Skash right?

You know what they say mate.....money where yer mouth is :)

 

[dario2739]

The Champions League has been a disappointment - however that's down to the groups we've been drawn in!
I'd go as far as to say that I don't believe any of the English teams would have qualified from either of our groups.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Drawing at Liverpool is not a bad result,yes losing at Sunderland and Everton perenially is most annoying but do these 2 games per season and a lack of cl knockout football really warrant a change of manager 3yrs into a 5yr project.

I am also frustrated by results and performamces against these teams. For the sake of balance - Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea were also bogey teams and we have done OK against them in the last year or two. That is we are 2nd in the league and Champions.

Lets be honest we were beating Chelsea and Arsenal at home when Hughes was here.

In the odd game at home but not on a regular basis. Wins away at Arsenal and Spurs had been very rare also.

The two plausible criticisms of Mancini are his poor CL record (a fact) and that he falls out with people - including doctors and some players. Some argue this shows a lack of adapatabiliy but Khaldoon and the Sheikh knew we needed a stong character to challange the Rags. Yes our leadership needs to be flexible and this was shown in Roberto's mind games that battered Fergie and the Rags last year - as well as making mugs out of that great institution - the British press. Off course we had given up on the league.

To most fans who go to the game and sing his name (but vlearly mot all) these are more than offset at the moment by the domestic trophies we are winning. If we don't improve in the CL then no doubt the City hierarchy will review but please mo knee jerk reactions. As others have said, we are 2nd in the league and going to Wembley so there is plenty still to go for.

 

[Latics Fan SJK]

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

Out of interest BS, how many campaigns has the man had in Europe?? Genuinely interested

I'd say the club in itself is far to wet behind the ears, however there's no doubt in my mind he'll win a champions league trophy within the next 6/7 years, the only problem is it probably won't be here!!!! A manager of his ilk improves because of the motivation they take from failure, he's made many mistakes this year granted but for achieving the ultimate goal of winning the league he should be afforded another crack, IMO he'll win the league if still here next year!!!!

Honestly his record is average. He might be a relative novice, but just as City weren't prepared to wait for Mark Hughes how to figure out how to manage at the level they wanted at the time, I'm not sure they will wait for Mancini to grow into a top European manager.

I've also said quite a few times that he probably will win the CL one day. He's not a shit coach, far from it. He's a very good manager who's record of trophies speaks for itself. He's just not at that level required to make an impact both domestically and in Europe. This was proven at Inter, and has subsequently been proven at City so far.

Fiorentina
01/02 – Uefa Cup R3 (Beaten by Lille 3-0 on agg)

Lazio
02/03 – Uefa Cup SF (Beaten by Porto 4-1 on agg)
03/04 – CL Group Stage (Finished bottom with a W1 D2 L3 record)

Inter Milan
04/05 – CL QF (Beaten by AC Milan 3-0 on agg)
05/06 – CL QF (Beaten by Villarreal on away goals)
06/07 – CL R2 (Beaten by Valencia on away goals)
07/08 – CL R2 (Beaten by Liverpool 3-0 on agg)

Man City
10/11 – Europa League R16 (Beaten by Dinamo Kiev 2-1 on agg)
11/12 – CL Group Stage (Finished 3rd)
11/12 – Europa League (Beaten by Sporting Lisbon on away goals)
12/13 – CL Group Stage (Finished bottom of Group)

So that’s 11 European campaigns in total. The highlights are a Uefa Cup SF and 2x CL QF’s. Considering that he won Serie A 3x with Inter, he couldn’t get past the QF’s once. The following year, when Mourinho took over Inter, the starting line up in the final against Bayern had 6 players from Mancini’s era.

Mancini is by no means a bad manager, certainly on the Domestic front. But in Europe, his record says otherwise.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

And I would say you're talking out of your arse

And a fantastic arse it is..Ask my wife.

LOL. I'm sure tis a thing of rare beauty! Perhaps a saucy pic for the readers?!

I'm not that brave

 

[Grieffymcfcctid]

The Champions League has been a disappointment - however that's down to the groups we've been drawn in!
I'd go as far as to say that I don't believe any of the English teams would have qualified from either of our groups.

the thing is we didnt win a single game, we should of beaten ajax twice.

 

[levets]

Of the dozen or so I'll be going down to Wembley with I don't know one who doesn't have significant doubts about Mancini.

Yes but do they hate him p.b.
Do they call him a ****,clown,waste of space & stealing for a living?

You mean like many on here did with Hughes?

I don't believe they hate him and why should they after winning the PL and FA cup? But they think that he isn't good enough to take us to the next (and ultimate) level of regularly being in serious contention for the PL and CL.

PB....

I remember having a number of 'discussions' with you previously...
when we just missed out to Spurs for CL... you said we'll never win anything with RM...

then we won the Cup and qualified for CL... you said he still needs to be replaced as you 'Didn't believe he had the ability to take us to the next level' ...

then we won the Championship... but he still can't take us to the next level....

Eventually you will be right! :-)

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I am also frustrated by results and performamces against these teams. For the sake of balance - Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea were also bogey teams and we have done OK against them in the last year or two. That is we are 2nd in the league and Champions.

Lets be honest we were beating Chelsea and Arsenal at home when Hughes was here.

In the odd game at home but not on a regular basis. Wins away at Arsenal and Spurs had been very rare also.

The two plausible criticisms of Mancini are his poor CL record (a fact) and that he falls out with people - including doctors and some players. Some argue this shows a lack of adapatabiliy but Khaldoon and the Sheikh knew we needed a stong character to challange the Rags. Yes our leadership needs to be flexible and this was shown in Roberto's mind games that battered Fergie and the Rags last year - as well as making mugs out of that great institution - the British press. Off course we had given up on the league.

To most fans who go to the game and sing his name (but vlearly mot all) these are more than offset at the moment by the domestic trophies we are winning. If we don't improve in the CL then no doubt the City hierarchy will review but please mo knee jerk reactions. As others have said, we are 2nd in the league and going to Wembley so there is plenty still to go for.

So you believe his continued failure to beat certain teams in the league which as more teams figure us out that number ever increases isn't a plausible criticism?