Mancini

[Tim of the Oak]

Manchester City are lining up Malaga manager Manuel Pellegrini as a potential replacement for Roberto Mancini according to El Pais.

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What do you think ?

Get fucked! That's what I think!

Not an 'upgrade' on Mancini... and if the barca boys think so... then they should pack their bags as well!

This really is hard to credit.
So it makes sense to replace the only manager of a Manchester club to win two trophies in his first three years with a man who spent £250 million on four players at Real and has won nothing?
Can anyone please explain,in laymans terms,exactly why this would be a good idea?

Why stop at Pellegrini? Isn't Avram Grant available?

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

So you believe his continued failure to beat certain teams in the league which as more teams figure us out that number ever increases isn't a plausible criticism?

maybe the players should be held a little more accountable? Everton and Sunderland are bogey teams.It does not justify sacking Mancini

I agree. We have missed a lot of chances in those Sunderland games and I am afraid that Joe has not distinguished himself in goals.

There is probably a combination of factors including player performances, missing key players and yes you can argue the Roberto hasn't got the best out of the 11 on the pitch every time. Not many managers do. Rags were calling for Baconface's head at the end of last season

We created more than enough chances in all of these games to get something. Yes the buck stops with the manager but the buck should also stop with the players.

 

[the goats backside]

I've said all along that I think he should get another year and I can't help wondering what sort of season this might have been had the summer window gone the way Mancini wanted it to. I don't think we've been bad this season but neither have we hits the heights we did at times last year.Given the total exhilaration we all felt last year perhaps this season was always going to have an element of comedown about it. We hurt Utd and they have come out fighting and it seems we were not able to stay the pace this time around ( I can't totally give it up though...always the optimist) so if we end up with nothing or even a cup I still would like to see what Roberto could achieve with the type and quality of players he wants.

Surely one of the main reasons this is all being debated, is that RM was not backed in the summer. The question that needs answering, is why

 

[AustinBlue]

I am also frustrated by results and performamces against these teams. For the sake of balance - Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea were also bogey teams and we have done OK against them in the last year or two. That is we are 2nd in the league and Champions.

Lets be honest we were beating Chelsea and Arsenal at home when Hughes was here.

In the odd game at home but not on a regular basis. Wins away at Arsenal and Spurs had been very rare also.

The two plausible criticisms of Mancini are his poor CL record (a fact) and that he falls out with people - including doctors and some players. Some argue this shows a lack of adapatabiliy but Khaldoon and the Sheikh knew we needed a stong character to challange the Rags. Yes our leadership needs to be flexible and this was shown in Roberto's mind games that battered Fergie and the Rags last year - as well as making mugs out of that great institution - the British press. Off course we had given up on the league.

To most fans who go to the game and sing his name (but vlearly mot all) these are more than offset at the moment by the domestic trophies we are winning. If we don't improve in the CL then no doubt the City hierarchy will review but please mo knee jerk reactions. As others have said, we are 2nd in the league and going to Wembley so there is plenty still to go for.

I personally think the most valid criticisms of Mancini are that he has not shown that he can adapt tactics even in cases where he has significant player superiority, that he hasn't show that he can get more out of a team than the sum of the parts, and that players consistently regress on his watch. I think most thinking critics accept that we had very tough CL groups and would accept the results, but do not accept just how poorly we played in critical matches, especially against Ajax and Napoli and Dortmund. Further valid criticisms include his insistence on bringing in certain staff and players who make no sense (Savic and Platt), and the debacles around Tevez and Balotelli. Some of us would argue that we won the league last year in spite of Mancini. That the team only started to play when he "gave up" and took the brakes off the best squad in the land. And yet, it still took luck and a moment of sublime player brilliance to win that final game.

 

[andyhinch]

I've said all along that I think he should get another year and I can't help wondering what sort of season this might have been had the summer window gone the way Mancini wanted it to. I don't think we've been bad this season but neither have we hits the heights we did at times last year.Given the total exhilaration we all felt last year perhaps this season was always going to have an element of comedown about it. We hurt Utd and they have come out fighting and it seems we were not able to stay the pace this time around ( I can't totally give it up though...always the optimist) so if we end up with nothing or even a cup I still would like to see what Roberto could achieve with the type and quality of players he wants.

Surely one of the main reasons this is all being debated, is that RM was not backed in the summer. The question that needs answering, is why

And the answer will come in summer, not sure what it'll be though.

 

[Jnr Kisby]

I've said all along that I think he should get another year and I can't help wondering what sort of season this might have been had the summer window gone the way Mancini wanted it to. I don't think we've been bad this season but neither have we hits the heights we did at times last year.Given the total exhilaration we all felt last year perhaps this season was always going to have an element of comedown about it. We hurt Utd and they have come out fighting and it seems we were not able to stay the pace this time around ( I can't totally give it up though...always the optimist) so if we end up with nothing or even a cup I still would like to see what Roberto could achieve with the type and quality of players he wants.

Surely one of the main reasons this is all being debated, is that RM was not backed in the summer. The question that needs answering, is why

FFP is the answer, the owners want a self sustaining club. We have enough resources in the existing squad to have won it again this season.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I've said all along that I think he should get another year and I can't help wondering what sort of season this might have been had the summer window gone the way Mancini wanted it to. I don't think we've been bad this season but neither have we hits the heights we did at times last year.Given the total exhilaration we all felt last year perhaps this season was always going to have an element of comedown about it. We hurt Utd and they have come out fighting and it seems we were not able to stay the pace this time around ( I can't totally give it up though...always the optimist) so if we end up with nothing or even a cup I still would like to see what Roberto could achieve with the type and quality of players he wants.

Surely one of the main reasons this is all being debated, is that RM was not backed in the summer. The question that needs answering, is why

Yep-you snooze you lose.We certainly snoozed in summer and we are all gonna have to put up with the rags crowing for 3 months.I also think some players lost the hunger as they thought "that's it" winners medal.Surely the mentality should be to want more and more but I haven't seen that this year.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Manchester City are lining up Malaga manager Manuel Pellegrini as a potential replacement for Roberto Mancini according to El Pais.

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What do you think ?

Get fucked! That's what I think!

Not an 'upgrade' on Mancini... and if the barca boys think so... then they should pack their bags as well!

This really is hard to credit.
So it makes sense to replace the only manager of a Manchester club to win two trophies in his first three years with a man who spent £250 million on four players at Real and has won nothing?
Can anyone please explain,in laymans terms,exactly why this would be a good idea?

That really is an amazing stat isnt it
In fact mate its the first full 2 seasons of any manager in the history of the rags and us
Lets get rid eh :)

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Surely you can see that consistantly failing in the champions league and consistantly failing in those fixtures shows that he cannot adjust his game and once plan A is found out that's it he's had it.

I have highlighted the error..We have been in the champions league for all of 2 seasons..not 20 like the rags...How long did it take the rags to get out of the group stage??? We are not consistently failing,just having to failed for 2 seasons..Last year we were unlucky with 10pts..This yr was a fucking tough group and Dortmund/Madrid were always favourites to get through and they are still in the last 8.
patience is a virtue..Not many on here have it

1 season

And 13 seasons to win it with purple nose.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

I have highlighted the error..We have been in the champions league for all of 2 seasons..not 20 like the rags...How long did it take the rags to get out of the group stage??? We are not consistently failing,just having to failed for 2 seasons..Last year we were unlucky with 10pts..This yr was a fucking tough group and Dortmund/Madrid were always favourites to get through and they are still in the last 8.
patience is a virtue..Not many on here have it

1 season

And 13 seasons to win it with purple nose.

Why does this keep getting thrown into the equation in Mancini's defence. 20 years ago European progression and Complying to FFP were not linked.