Rolee said:NipHolmes said:Rolee said:Nip and DD,
Predictable responses from both of you.
Just completely ignore the fact that he has admitted to making mistakes himself this season and recognises as ONE of the factors why we are in the position we are.
It's predictable Rolee because it's on the cards, he's admitted what the 6 man occupants tent have been saying for a while. I cannot accept his excuses. His 3-5-2 and lack of squad balance has cost us. AVB had us right last year, we are an Italian team and now we have been busted. We sit deep so teams press us high and look for counters. Mancini is a season too late in his findings and as a manager at a top club he should have this on his mind in the summer instead of trying to copy Juventus.
The mistake is him. He has 4 top strikers (now 3+guidetti) and failed to get a tuen out of them. No excuse for that.
AVB is sweating right now because he has one striker out of his two. Bale was needed to step up and AVB worked his man to get the most out the lad. That's an example of getting the most out of what you have.
How the fuck are we second in the league if we've been busted?
Is this the same AVB that was beaten at the Etihad earlier inthe seadon? Incidentally using the 3-5-2.
Give over
NipHolmes said:Rolee said:NipHolmes said:It's predictable Rolee because it's on the cards, he's admitted what the 6 man occupants tent have been saying for a while. I cannot accept his excuses. His 3-5-2 and lack of squad balance has cost us. AVB had us right last year, we are an Italian team and now we have been busted. We sit deep so teams press us high and look for counters. Mancini is a season too late in his findings and as a manager at a top club he should have this on his mind in the summer instead of trying to copy Juventus.
The mistake is him. He has 4 top strikers (now 3+guidetti) and failed to get a tuen out of them. No excuse for that.
AVB is sweating right now because he has one striker out of his two. Bale was needed to step up and AVB worked his man to get the most out the lad. That's an example of getting the most out of what you have.
How the fuck are we second in the league if we've been busted?
Is this the same AVB that was beaten at the Etihad earlier inthe seadon? Incidentally using the 3-5-2.
Give over
Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Rolee said:NipHolmes said:Rolee said:How the fuck are we second in the league if we've been busted?
Is this the same AVB that was beaten at the Etihad earlier inthe seadon? Incidentally using the 3-5-2.
Give over
Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
I can't be bothered Nip, you're so entrenched you can't see the woods for the trees.
Just a quick point, we're closer to 7th than we are 1st. That's not a title challenge.NipHolmes said:You can dress up second as a 'not bad' season but really you fail to state that we are closer to third than first
NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
moomba said:NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
Top players should be flexible but it does not mean they don't have limitations and it is the manager's job to identify if that is the case and manage accordingly. It is the manager who has to ensure his players are properly prepared.moomba said:NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
Rolee said:moomba said:NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
I wouldn't mind but he obviously used that system to have a plan B, something that the same people that are criticising it now were screaming for last season. The fact that he was willing to experiment also flies in the face of the arguments that's he's one dimensional and/or stubborn in his thinking.
Alternatively, it mustn't turn 11 world class footballers into headless chickens.grim up north said:Rolee said:moomba said:Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
I wouldn't mind but he obviously used that system to have a plan B, something that the same people that are criticising it now were screaming for last season. The fact that he was willing to experiment also flies in the face of the arguments that's he's one dimensional and/or stubborn in his thinking.
you must not be aware for it to be a plan b, it has to consist of width and pace :-0
karen7 said:at the risk of being shouted down,please can you cut out the mancini bashing for one day,its derby day for fucks sake,get behind the team,tear him a new one tomorrow if we lose
Outstanding.BringBackSwales said:karen7 said:at the risk of being shouted down,please can you cut out the mancini bashing for one day,its derby day for fucks sake,get behind the team,tear him a new one tomorrow if we lose
I was not Mancini bashing Karen, I was making the opposite point - I want some continuity, Mancini is a winner and I will be there tonight giving him my full backing, as will the majority of match going Blues - most of the Mancini haters will not be at the match, they will be in here, typing snidey negative comments. Our club has chopped and changed managers far too many times over the last 4 decades. I am 53 and last season was consistently the best football we have played in that time, we need to get that back next season, not throw it away because of 1 relatively poor season.
COME ON CITY
BringBackSwales said:karen7 said:at the risk of being shouted down,please can you cut out the mancini bashing for one day,its derby day for fucks sake,get behind the team,tear him a new one tomorrow if we lose
I was not Mancini bashing Karen, I was making the opposite point - I want some continuity, Mancini is a winner and I will be there tonight giving him my full backing, as will the majority of match going Blues - most of the Mancini haters will not be at the match, they will be in here, typing snidey negative comments. Our club has chopped and changed managers far too many times over the last 4 decades. I am 53 and last season was consistently the best football we have played in that time, we need to get that back next season, not throw it away because of 1 relatively poor season.
COME ON CITY
moomba said:NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
Pam said:Reigning champions. FA Cup winners two years ago. Another semi coming up at the weekend. Will the Bobby backers just fuck off.
grim up north said:Rolee said:moomba said:Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.
I wouldn't mind but he obviously used that system to have a plan B, something that the same people that are criticising it now were screaming for last season. The fact that he was willing to experiment also flies in the face of the arguments that's he's one dimensional and/or stubborn in his thinking.
you must not be aware for it to be a plan b, it must have wingers width and pace :-)
OB1 said:Top players should be flexible but it does not mean they don't have limitations and it is the manager's job to identify if that is the case and manage accordingly. It is the manager who has to ensure his players are properly prepared.moomba said:NipHolmes said:Because Chelsea have blown their season early doors and Arsenal have fell off the radar, that's why!
As for 3-5-2. Have you noticed Kolo looks comfortable with 4 at the back, same with Clichy. Have you seen them play when we go with 3 at the back? They suddenly become Reading level defenders. Why? because they have little confidence and understanding of the formation.
Do you not think professional footballers should be capable of playing more than just one formation? I think De Boer said something about being amazed at the players not doing their job properly.