moomba said:Mister Appointment said:I think we also need to decide as a group of supporters what our expectations are season on season and what should happen if they're not met. Lets say Pellegrini finishes 2nd and doesn't win a trophy - should he just be sacked? If he is then what? Next guy same thing - win something in your first season or you're out?
I think everyone is entitled to a down season, player and manager. Seems to be the way nowadays that people need someone to pay for any failure but I reckon thats a bit shortsighted. So if we fall short of my expectations this season what I'd be looking for (if I had a say) is answers to how things will change in the next season. Providing I'm satisfied with those answers then he has to be given the chance. Even more so given the fact that MP has achieved success with us, that has to count for something.
What I wouldn't want is one down season to become two down seasons so if we don't meet expectations this year I'd be looking to see improvements fairly early in the piece. If we're still having the same problems then it wouldn't take much for me to think a change is needed.
Sound logic and likely to be mirrored by the people who have the say whether a change is needed or not however the targets are usually set on a year by year basis especially for someone who in all probability is going to at best have the three year contract and then be replaced no matter the trophy haul in that three year period.
People always need new challenges and football is no different.
My take on it is that the minimum expectation for MP this season was progression in Europe despite FFPR and a 21 man squad and qualification for the same tournament next season.
I would have thought the playing group would have bought into that as well but they haven't for reasons they should know by now.
You would expect especially given the fact that Liverpool have lost a huge chunk of there scoring prowess , Manure have a new manager and are still teetering with the legacy that is Sir Alex, Arsenal well they are Arsenal and Spurs have a new manager and little strike power that this season it would be seen as a failure of some proportion if we don't finish in the top two.
Given that Chelsea are still in 4 comps and we only in two after the next game ( sorry those who think we will qualify but we will finish last and deservedly so ) we have a huge advantage over them so I would expect us and Chelsea to fight out the title this season.
I think a second place finish would place MP in a position where he may be afforded the opportunity of a final season at the helm but more likely he will get the tap on the shoulder.