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Every keeper in the country makes great saves.He can not command his area,can't distribute,a bag of nerves when the ball comes to his feet,doesn't know when to come or stay,punches a lot when he should'nt,positional sense not great and very week low to his left.Just my opinion,you don't have to agree.

I'm not disagreeing that Hart doesn't have flaws in his game.

I just totally disagree with your view that 'Stevie Wonder could have done as good a job as Hart under Mancini.

Hart was world class back then.
 
Shame...for £40 million, i think we should have taken Everton's offer and purchased Bravo. I honestly can't see Hart adapting to what Pep requires, and in a year's time, i doubt he'd command the same fee.
I bet this is A new persona for more guff about his favourite player.
 
Mancini's defense?
Right...so why was he only one clean sheet off winning it again last season. Wasn't the greatest defence was it.
But..But Hart is a vocal 'leader'..esp in the tunnel.Lol c'mon Hart's not world class,an okay GK yes.. Hopefully Bravo in Caballero out then Hart out next summer and a younger GK in.
There's a growing number of blues who seem to believe that the only thing that matters is the effectiveness of the 14 players that may be called upon on match day. That's fine, that's their opinion, but I've always seen City as more than just a mechanism to win trophies. I see it as a genuine community club, a family without sounding to corny about it. It was a big deal to me that Pep kept Brian Kidd on, not because of his tactical knowledge being the key to more wins, but because he's been there since the start of the new era of City, it's comforting to see him on the bench. Chappy still on City tv, Mike Summerbee still greeting our newest members. Everything we've built for the kids, from the ground up, the ethos of being a well rounded person they're instilling in the kids we train from so young.
I see Joe as one of our graduates, I know he was 17 when we bought him, but all the same, he played in our lower team and kept Given out of the sticks when he broke through. He's a example to them lads now of what you can achieve. Zabba and Vinny are the same to me, they're men of the club, not just the starting 11. I know this is an outdated view point, but it's part of the reason we all stayed city fans through all them lean years, there was more to us than just success, we we're all in it together, with a song in our hearts and a smile on our faces. Really hope we haven't see the last of them days, there are somethings more important than trophies.
 
Right...so why was he only one clean sheet off winning it again last season. Wasn't the greatest defence was it.

There's a growing number of blues who seem to believe that the only thing that matters is the effectiveness of the 14 players that may be called upon on match day. That's fine, that's their opinion, but I've always seen City as more than just a mechanism to win trophies. I see it as a genuine community club, a family without sounding to corny about it. It was a big deal to me that Pep kept Brian Kidd on, not because of his tactical knowledge being the key to more wins, but because he's been there since the start of the new era of City, it's comforting to see him on the bench. Chappy still on City tv, Mike Summerbee still greeting our newest members. Everything we've built for the kids, from the ground up, the ethos of being a well rounded person they're instilling in the kids we train from so young.
I see Joe as one of our graduates, I know he was 17 when we bought him, but all the same, he played in our lower team and kept Given out of the sticks when he broke through. He's a example to them lads now of what you can achieve. Zabba and Vinny are the same to me, they're men of the club, not just the starting 11. I know this is an outdated view point, but it's part of the reason we all stayed city fans through all them lean years, there was more to us than just success, we we're all in it together, with a song in our hearts and a smile on our faces. Really hope we haven't see the last of them days, there are somethings more important than trophies.

Good post - thanks
 
Right...so why was he only one clean sheet off winning it again last season. Wasn't the greatest defence was it.

There's a growing number of blues who seem to believe that the only thing that matters is the effectiveness of the 14 players that may be called upon on match day. That's fine, that's their opinion, but I've always seen City as more than just a mechanism to win trophies. I see it as a genuine community club, a family without sounding to corny about it. It was a big deal to me that Pep kept Brian Kidd on, not because of his tactical knowledge being the key to more wins, but because he's been there since the start of the new era of City, it's comforting to see him on the bench. Chappy still on City tv, Mike Summerbee still greeting our newest members. Everything we've built for the kids, from the ground up, the ethos of being a well rounded person they're instilling in the kids we train from so young.
I see Joe as one of our graduates, I know he was 17 when we bought him, but all the same, he played in our lower team and kept Given out of the sticks when he broke through. He's a example to them lads now of what you can achieve. Zabba and Vinny are the same to me, they're men of the club, not just the starting 11. I know this is an outdated view point, but it's part of the reason we all stayed city fans through all them lean years, there was more to us than just success, we we're all in it together, with a song in our hearts and a smile on our faces. Really hope we haven't see the last of them days, there are somethings more important than trophies.
I personally think Hart is a World Class shot stopper. The Golden Glove is for clean sheets. It is an award given to goalkeepers but the achievement is clearly something that the entire team/defense contributes to. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
 
I personally think Hart is a World Class shot stopper. The Golden Glove is for clean sheets. It is an award given to goalkeepers but the achievement is clearly something that the entire team/defense contributes to. If you don't understand that, I can't help you.
Ok, so when a striker wins the golden boot, that purely is a individual achievement and in no way helped by the team...
 
Right...so why was he only one clean sheet off winning it again last season. Wasn't the greatest defence was it.

There's a growing number of blues who seem to believe that the only thing that matters is the effectiveness of the 14 players that may be called upon on match day. That's fine, that's their opinion, but I've always seen City as more than just a mechanism to win trophies. I see it as a genuine community club, a family without sounding to corny about it. It was a big deal to me that Pep kept Brian Kidd on, not because of his tactical knowledge being the key to more wins, but because he's been there since the start of the new era of City, it's comforting to see him on the bench. Chappy still on City tv, Mike Summerbee still greeting our newest members. Everything we've built for the kids, from the ground up, the ethos of being a well rounded person they're instilling in the kids we train from so young.
I see Joe as one of our graduates, I know he was 17 when we bought him, but all the same, he played in our lower team and kept Given out of the sticks when he broke through. He's a example to them lads now of what you can achieve. Zabba and Vinny are the same to me, they're men of the club, not just the starting 11. I know this is an outdated view point, but it's part of the reason we all stayed city fans through all them lean years, there was more to us than just success, we we're all in it together, with a song in our hearts and a smile on our faces. Really hope we haven't see the last of them days, there are somethings more important than trophies.

Hart was 19 when we bought him, an I don't recall him ever playing for the u21s - Matthewson was the regular keeper for them back then and Schmeichel was there too.

Other than that, I agree with the sentiment. If Hart could do the job required in this new era under Pep, then I'd love him to do it - in fact I think he'd go down as one of the greatest premier league keepers of all time if he could stay number 1 for the next 3 or 4 years under Pep. Probably win another couple of golden gloves and starting catching up with Cech's record number of clean sheets.

Unfortunately I've watched him for 6 years and I genuinely don't think that's going to happen. The club won't lose whatever sense of community it has left if he does leave though, no one player will ever determine that.
 
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