Marc-Andre ter Stegen

[MeatHunterrr]

How many of those were in La Liga?

4, so only La Liga games count? He is their cup keeper, Bravo plays all matches in La Liga regardless of how Ter Stegen performs in cups

 

[Manchester_lalala]

But you clearly do not.

Okay.

 

[kupest]

4, so only La Liga games count?

The issue arises because Wiki only mentions him playing 4 games. You scroll down and realize they havn't taken into account any of the Cup/CL games and its only the 4 La liga games. I am sure a lot of people just went on his wiki page and were like oh this guy has only played 4 times.

 

[stony]

Alright, if you want me to elaborate for you......

1. You are advocating replacing a proven, top quality goalkeeper, with 57 international caps to his name and still in his 20's, with someone relatively inexperienced, who has played the grand total of 4 games in 2 seasons for his current club.
2. Joe Hart is arguably the best one on one shot blocker in world football, in the top half dozen (IMO) when it comes to the spectacular stuff, and at 6ft 4', a real physical presence in a very physical league. I too would prefer him to catch the ball from corners, but if you want to cite that (along with his supposedly suspect distribution - which I personally would call bullshit given that he only ever has a collection of diddymen to aim at) as grounds to get rid, then frankly I think you're certifiable.
3. Joe Hart is English. Our inadequate home grown quota has already led to us being held over a barrel once, when that bastard Milner played silly buggers over signing a new contract safe in the knowledge that due to FFP restrictions, we couldn't afford to offload him because of his nationality. Ditching Hart would pretty much leave us with Delph, Clichy and Sterling in that capacity. Quite apart from leaving us short on squad numbers, it would also make us vulnerable to legislative change dreamt up by rag c*nts like Gill and Dyke, the latter of whom would love nothing more than to up the home grown quota, a) because it would suit the rags, the dippers, the Arse and Spurs to do so, and b) because it would stiff us.
4. A lesser point, but Joe Hart is effectively one of our own. A big character who loves the club and who is (IMO) good for morale.

Is Joe Hart perfect? No, of course not. He drops the odd ricket, like the fuck up at home to Swansea or the soft scuffer he let in from Lallana recently, just like any other keeper, but that notwithstanding he's a fucking good goalie, who's saved our bacon on umpteen occasions. As priorities go, trying to find a replacement for him is pretty much second only to selling Aguero on my list. There, will that do for you?

Well said Ebiah.

 

[Phil1]

Well said Ebiah.

It's hard to argue against Harts merits, of which there are many. We do need to address the goalkeeping situation if Caballero leaves though,and for me, bringing in a a keeper like Stegan is ideal. I appreciate that others feel different. It's pretty emotive considering how highly regarded Joe is with the fans.

 

[Rorz88]

Im calling bulls***

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

How does it matter? I am pretty sure playing in the CL is much more difficult than La Liga. He has definitely played more than 4 games grand total for the club.

How does it matter? Is he a top keeper or one just wheeled out for cup ties?

 

[cornerflag]

A CL final is hardly your second-rate cup tie.

 

[Phil1]

How does it matter? Is he a top keeper or one just wheeled out for cup ties?

That's harsh considering one of those cup ties is in the biggest competition in club football. It's a bit different than playing against championship teams in the league cup. If Barca get to the final he'll have the worlds spotlight on him, if he can handle that he should be able to cope with the premier league.

 

[stony]

It's hard to argue against Harts merits, of which there are many. We do need to address the goalkeeping situation if Caballero leaves though,and for me, bringing in a a keeper like Stegan is ideal. I appreciate that others feel different. It's pretty emotive considering how highly regarded Joe is with the fans.

There's not a chance he's being brought in to challenge Hart or to play second fiddle. You don't pay £20M for a keeper and then stick him on the bench, and anyone who thinks Joe will stick around warming a bench while Butland gets his England spot is seriously deluded. Joe has to say he will fight for his place, not doing so would be unthinkable and he would get crucified if it was thought he'd just given up. If we buy this new fella then we will get offers this summer for Joe and the club will listen to them. That's all the excuse Joe will need, we sign Stegan then Joe will be off in the summer. I just hope it isn't to Liverpool, who are desperate to replace Mignolet. Or to the rags, who will be looking for a new keeper when De Gea fucks off.