Marc Cucurella

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goalmole said:
A legend in his own lunchtime, indeed, but two can play that game.
Just as he has a right to ask whatever price he wants for his player, City are under no obligation to pay what he is asking.
If City feel he is overvalued then we will walk away ala Kane.
No biggie.
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I think most people would think the £50m valuation is a bit high for a player signed for £15m a season ago, but it's Brighton's right to value him at whatever they want. However, they also need to consider the bigger picture - if we walk away, they may have an unhappy player, but he'll get over it and if he has another good season, someone will probably meet that valuation. But their business model is to buy, develop and sell players. Agents aren't going to want their players stuck at Brighton on relatively low wages, so will either insist on buy out clauses at lower than Brighton could probably have got or they'll just find another club for their player.

I still think this gets done for around £40m with add-ons to take it to about £45m, but as we saw with Dias, things can change at other clubs and another option we thought was too expensive previously could suddenly become available. Letting this drag on increases the risk for Brighton of not selling him, but also that we do finally crack but not leaving them time to get a suitable replacement.
 
blueparrot said:
Don’t think it matters either way, Brighton will push the fee as high as they can , we’ll pay or look elsewhere. Those figures don’t change just because Zinchenko deal is done first.
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Like Liverpool selling Torres for £50m and buying Carrol for £35? We have shown our cards and need to buy, if there were multiple options for around the same price and quality it wouldn't make a difference, but there isn't.
 
footballmanager said:
rodri is an atletico guy afaik. so, not too keen on moving to real or barça, in theory at least. Cucu was born and raised at barça
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Mate I mean this respectfully but who the fuck cares ffs. This is a load of shit. Who even knows if he becomes a city player
 
Dax777 said:
I've never been the wait till you buy a replacement to sell your player kinda guy. I don't think it matters. Zinch was ready, Arsenal be was ready to pay. You do the deal.

One is unrelated to the other. Imho
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Totally unrelated. For those who haven't figured it out yet JWE is Zinchenko's replacement.
If they're not comfortable with that it could be Sosa or Grimaldo replacing Zin.

Cucurella is its own transaction, not related to Zinchenko's departure. Its a deferred move to replace Mendy. If anyone is struggling with their memory here's a reminder that when healthy Mendy was Pep's first choice LB. Not Zin and not Cancelo.
 
Corky said:
Like Liverpool selling Torres for £50m and buying Carrol for £35? We have shown our cards and need to buy, if there were multiple options for around the same price and quality it wouldn't make a difference, but there isn't.
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No because we will have a figure we will walk away at they will have a figure they will accept. They apparently wanted £50 mill a month ago they apparently still want £50 mill it hasn’t gone up because we sold Zinchenko. If it had we’d have walked away by now.
What will impact the figure more may be the transfer request.
 
I’m still not sure Bloom budges. The difference now is that he is risking the negative PR of turning down a 300% increase (when they say they they will let players go if they get a reasonable offer) AND the player has offered, by way of a written transfer request, to waive his own money. The relationship between Cucu and the Brighton fans won’t be the same now.

Anyone looking to join Brighton looks at that and says no thanks or insists on a release clause going forward.

I think Bloom will still turn City down, but now I think he would be making the mistake rather than City. Happy to be wrong and I really didn’t think Cucu would put in a transfer request.

At least this is moving now.
 
Corky said:
Like Liverpool selling Torres for £50m and buying Carrol for £35? We have shown our cards and need to buy, if there were multiple options for around the same price and quality it wouldn't make a difference, but there isn't.
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I don’t know. I like Cucu but I like Raum and Nouri at Wolves a bit more.
 
footballmanager said:
rodri is an atletico guy afaik. so, not too keen on moving to real or barça, in theory at least. Cucu was born and raised at barça

And maybe thats a reason why city dont want to pay more than 40 mil for him. he might want to leave in two years or so
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footballmanager said:
rodri is an atletico guy afaik. so, not too keen on moving to real or barça, in theory at least. Cucu was born and raised at barça

And maybe thats a reason why city dont want to pay more than 40 mil for him. he might want to leave in two years or so
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The poster said he was cynical about "young Spanish guys". Rodri is a young Spanish guy. Just sayin'.

Someone then praised D Silva for his loyalty. Silva is neither a Barca or a Real guy either (Valencia).

Then someone threw in Kun who is neither a Barca/Real guy or even Spanish.

Rodri is young, Spanish and just signed an extension.

But like lol yank said does it really matter ffs.
 
Brighton will pretend for several days or a week that nothing has happened. But reality will kick in at some point. Star players have a lot of power these days, and Cucu is their star player now.

We don't want shithousery from the player and his agent. Such a behaviour wouldn't be particularly nice. But if they feel Blooms's approach isn't fair, they have the right to show their disagreement with his methods. Yes, the player is under a contract. But the player has his dreams too. It's not guaranteed that a move to one of the very best teams in the world is going to happen in a year or two. It's complicated.
 
My worry in this is, Cucu puts transfer request in, hes been told by his agent to do this to try and push through the deal, would the agent not have spoken to City and been advized by City that this would help, however bloom sticks with the so called £50m City walk away no deal done and everyone blames each other.

Brighton blames city for not paying what they want.
City blames Brighton for over pricing him.
Cucu blames agent for handing in transfer request.
Agent blames City for transfer request.

And around it goes. In all honesty why would people qant to own a football club. This is 2 premier league teams, i bet its worse for clubs lower down the leagues.
 
It'sBlue93:20 said:
I was reading back a The Athletic article and saw this on transfer requests:

“It takes the heat off the owners,“That’s the only reason to do a transfer request in this day and age, so it convinces the supporters that the player doesn’t want to be there and that the club aren’t willing sellers.”

Quite promising for me , hopefully they fold
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"Uncle Tony" probably knows this off by heart.
 
lol yank said:
Mate I mean this respectfully but who the fuck cares ffs. This is a load of shit. Who even knows if he becomes a city player
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i mean, this is what happens with these transfer sagas, overthinking and overanalyzing, but theres really not much to do or add besides waiting. On the other hand this is a forum, people are allowed to give their reasonable opinion/analysis last time i checked
 
TB369 said:
I just wasn't sure as Bloom seems stubborn. Plus the praise he is getting from journalists especially from the athletic, is only going to make him feel vindicated in his £50 million evaluation.
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Bloom has made his millions as a margin caller, he won’t change that, however, he is running a business and when he looks at the final 45m, with a near £30m profit, his mathematical head will close this; I don’t blame the stance but it’s getting made and his posturing is all part of the game!
 
Charliegull said:
My worry in this is, Cucu puts transfer request in, hes been told by his agent to do this to try and push through the deal, would the agent not have spoken to City and been advized by City that this would help, however bloom sticks with the so called £50m City walk away no deal done and everyone blames each other.

Brighton blames city for not paying what they want.
City blames Brighton for over pricing him.
Cucu blames agent for handing in transfer request.
Agent blames City for transfer request.

And around it goes. In all honesty why would people qant to own a football club. This is 2 premier league teams, i bet its worse for clubs lower down the leagues.
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you have missed out this one and its a biggy:

Cucu blames club/Bloom for over pricing him and or turning down his transfer request - you then have a pissed off player on your hands and we come back next season or even at Christmas (knowing the player wants to come) and come in with a lower offer as he has less time on his contract
 
If he has put a requests in Brighton have every right to refuse it with his contract length and we still negotiate to try and reach an agreement.
But if he starts acting like a dick though with any kind of refusal to train or play then we should stop any pursuit just like we did with Kane
 
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In reality what difference does a "transfer request" make.
Does it mean he loses bonuses or any other financial consideration.
Everyone already knew he wanted a transfer anyway.
 
Bloom will turn us down for the same reason that Levy did and to that's to prove that he's the Billy Big Balls negotiator (its all the Brighton fans have been rattling on about since they came on here).

It also doesnt help that we're run by Arabs, and I'll bet a pound to a penny that if it was Liverpool or Chelsea coming in for him at exactly the same price, this would've got done by now.
 
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