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vicblueman
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Why can't Newcastle go on a spending spree with their new owner if thats the case , surely Chelsea's wage bill will be astronomical especially if Dejong is signed ? Is FFP just for us & Newcastle .No idea I thought there was a rule that a new owner can spend loads as long as he has a plan to be self sufficient! Now though I don’t know Uefa have new ffp rules premier I don’t think have announced there new ffp rules yet!?
Richard Masters, prem exec was saying they were not giving up on their investigation in allegeged breaches of FFP by MCFC, which is now 3 years in the mix .Something stinks of rotten eggs with the lot of them !
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failsworthblueboy
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I don't think the budget is £30 million for a LB, we just don't believe the Cucurella is worth what Bloom wants for him. My understanding is we offered £40 million, which IMO (for what it's worth) is too much for this fella.If the budget for a left back is £30m then I'm not sure we'll find anyone decent for that price.
Maybe a young but inexperienced player? However he's going to Girona.
Maybe an older player? However we don't tend to do that anymore.
It's why I think, and hope I'm very wrong, that we won't be bringing in any other player.
Pep will be asked to work miracles again and shoring up a hole in the squad with players out of position.
I don’t think he’ll have too much trouble in the future, there’s not many Brighton players we’ve ever been interested in and Players/ Agents will still be attracted to signing for them due to Premier League wages.Planet short term gain, long term pain more like.
He’s maxing out this deal, and fair play to him for that - but the precedent it creates for their business model will have repercussions way beyond this deal.
I think he’s overplayed his hand in a fit of ego, to be honest - which is not unusual in poker - and will pay for it in future windows.
Still - who gives a fuck. I’m just glad we’re out of it now.
I hope he goes on the de Laurentiis and Levy list of time wasters we don’t bother playing games with again in future.
As you say, glad we’ve pulled the deal, we have a structure and stick to it.
He would fit like a glove for City, but the fee is too high.He's perfect for Chelsea.
mosssideblue
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When was £30m declared as our budget?If the budget for a left back is £30m then I'm not sure we'll find anyone decent for that price.
Maybe a young but inexperienced player? However he's going to Girona.
Maybe an older player? However we don't tend to do that anymore.
It's why I think, and hope I'm very wrong, that we won't be bringing in any other player.
Pep will be asked to work miracles again and shoring up a hole in the squad with players out of position.
The weirdest thing here is that BHA got Cucurella for £15m. How can we not spot players like that! The mark up on him is ridiculous. One half decent season for a mid table premier league club and its £50m+ talk about prem tax!
They have, 90% of turnover on wages and fees for three seasons then it’s 70% after that.No idea I thought there was a rule that a new owner can spend loads as long as he has a plan to be self sufficient! Now though I don’t know Uefa have new ffp rules premier I don’t think have announced there new ffp rules yet!?
When was £30m declared as our budget?
working on the theory that it was what we offered. I knew I should have included that as I knew someone would mention it.
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They have, 90% of turnover on wages and fees for three seasons then it’s 70% after that.
90/80/70 over three years. Not sure how they will be making that .....
Thenumber1blue
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Has he got his figure or is this something you've read on social media ?Brighton have always said they want more than they got for white As they think he is a better player and covers 3 positions for them. I don’t see the issue here at all.
Brighton have come out of this well as cucurella gets his move and bloom got his figure.
mosssideblue
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That may or may not have been the budget for Cucu but I don't suspect that is it for different playersworking on the theory that it was what we offered. I knew I should have included that as I knew someone would mention it.
Nicholas van Whatsisface
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I don’t think he’ll have too much trouble in the future, there’s not many Brighton players we’ve ever been interested in and Players/ Agents will still be attracted to signing for them due to Premier League wages.
As you say, glad we’ve pulled the deal, we have a structure and stick to it.
Not sure I agree with you mate.
Their pitch to promising, young, talented players and their agents is ‘come to Brighton, play every week in the PL, showcase your talent and if you get the opportunity for a move to a bigger club, we won’t stand in your way’.
There are plenty of recent quotes to exactly that effect from people at Brighton - David Weir being the most recent.
What they’re showing with Cucurella is that they blocked a move to his first choice (the Champions) even after a transfer request with a valuation the player and agent feel was unreasonable. They paid £15m for him, and apparently we were offering £40m - that’s almost triple their money in a year.
The agent then found an alternative move to another CL club, and they’re blocking that at the moment with an even more unreasonable set of demands.
If you don’t think ambitious players and agents will be watching this very closely, and simply won’t trust what Brighton are telling them in future - I think you’re being naive.
Why go there when you can go to Southampton or one of the other clubs with a similar model, and actually get your move when you want it?
Centurions
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Since he looks like he's deliberately pricing everyone out of any deals is is not planet idiot?Planet Clever and Shrewd, Tony Bloom is a smart operator, he’ll max his options to the hilt, can’t blame him. They sold Bissouma for a large fee, that was enough, he’s under no pressure to sell Cucurella but if he does he’s getting the best possible deal for his Club.
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN
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I’m sure it’s called digging their own graveNot sure I agree with you mate.
Their pitch to promising, young, talented players and their agents is ‘come to Brighton, play every week in the PL, showcase your talent and if you get the opportunity for a move to a bigger club, we won’t stand in your way’.
There are plenty of recent quotes to exactly that effect from people at Brighton - David Weir being the most recent.
What they’re showing with Cucurella is that they blocked a move to his first choice (the Champions) even after a transfer request with a valuation the player and agent feel was unreasonable. They paid £15m for him, and apparently we were offering £40m - that’s almost triple their money in a year.
The agent then found an alternative move to another CL club, and they’re blocking that at the moment with an even more unreasonable set of demands.
If you don’t think ambitious players and agents will be watching this very closely, and simply won’t trust what Brighton are telling them in future - I think you’re being naive.
Why go there when you can go to Southampton or one of the other clubs with a similar model, and actually get your move when you want it?
It’s what Andy naylor has consistently said, he gets his info straight from Brighton. Always been the same messaging from Brighton’s side we just thought they where bluffingHas he got his figure or is this something you've read on social media ?
We got Zin for 1.7m, Alvarez for 15m and we bought Gundo, Torres and Bernardo for the price of Pogba;The weirdest thing here is that BHA got Cucurella for £15m. How can we not spot players like that! The mark up on him is ridiculous. One half decent season for a mid table premier league club and its £50m+ talk about prem tax!
Bluemoon just ignores that information.
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But has he got his figure? I haven't seen it as a done deal yetIt’s what Andy naylor has consistently said, he gets his info straight from Brighton. Always been the same messaging from Brighton’s side we just thought they where bluffing
He’s under contract, it won’t worry them if he stays another year until a replacement is found, he’ll still be worth a big fee this time next year unless his form falls through the roof.Since he looks like he's deliberately pricing everyone out of any deals is is not planet idiot?
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