Marc Cucurella

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grim up north said:
Perhaps they really don’t want to sell him, and if they have to, will get maximum money they can
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Their manager said they know if the right offer comes in for one of their players, they'll sell as it's the club's model, but rinsing everyone out for what they can get will win them few friends.

If they get in relegation grief & want a loan signing or two to get them out of a spiral, other clubs will have looooooong memories of how Bloom handled their enquiries.

It's a balancing act & Bloom is either grabbing what he can whilst he can, or playing Monopoly in real life & disregarding how to win friends & influence people.

Also, I've asked Brighton fans this question THREE TIMES & as yet not ONE has attempted an answer...

1. Brighton bought Cucurella for £15m 12 months ago.

2. City were willing to more than double the amount Brighton paid for the player.

3. Brighton reportedly want nearly FOUR TIMES what they paid for him 12 months ago.

Q: Who's bringing inflationary pressure into football & ruining it so smaller clubs can't compete. City or Brighton? :-/
 
Jwoody19 said:
The weirdest thing here is that BHA got Cucurella for £15m. How can we not spot players like that! The mark up on him is ridiculous. One half decent season for a mid table premier league club and its £50m+ talk about prem tax!
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Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Not sure I agree with you mate.

Their pitch to promising, young, talented players and their agents is ‘come to Brighton, play every week in the PL, showcase your talent and if you get the opportunity for a move to a bigger club, we won’t stand in your way’.

There are plenty of recent quotes to exactly that effect from people at Brighton - David Weir being the most recent.

What they’re showing with Cucurella is that they blocked a move to his first choice (the Champions) even after a transfer request with a valuation the player and agent feel was unreasonable. They paid £15m for him, and apparently we were offering £40m - that’s almost triple their money in a year.

The agent then found an alternative move to another CL club, and they’re blocking that at the moment with an even more unreasonable set of demands.

If you don’t think ambitious players and agents will be watching this very closely, and simply won’t trust what Brighton are telling them in future - I think you’re being naive.

Why go there when you can go to Southampton or one of the other clubs with a similar model, and actually get your move when you want it?
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That is the model, the only thing is in Brightons favoure is we are looking at south america and youngsters there, any P L team will have no problem getting these players like we are doing, i doubt that they really care about moving on.
However the problem will be getting EU players they will look at this and say no thanks.
 
Dribble said:
Their manager said they know if the right offer comes in for one of their players, they'll sell as it's the club's model, but rinsing everyone out for what they can get will win them few friends.

If they get in relegation grief & want a loan signing or two to get them out of a spiral, other clubs will have looooooong memories of how Bloom handled their enquiries.

It's a balancing act & Bloom is either grabbing what he can whilst he can, or playing Monopoly in real life & disregarding how to win friends & influence people.

Also, I've asked Brighton fans this question THREE TIMES & as yet not ONE has attempted an answer...

1. Brighton bought Cucurella for £15m 12 months ago.

2. City were willing to more than double the amount Brighton paid for the player.

3. Brighton reportedly want nearly FOUR TIMES what they paid for him 12 months ago.

Q: Who's bringing inflationary pressure into football & ruining it so smaller clubs can't compete. City or Brighton? :-/
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I did answer this.

IMO could the same be said about Villa and the J G buy out, maybe City paying it or Chelsea overpaying for Cucu, or City and Fodens payrise.
 
I've read on here from itk's and informed journalists elsewhere that, for almost all our transfers, we are in discussion with intermediaries at clubs for months so we have an idea of what the transfer will be.

We either didn't have discussions/an idea beforehand or Brighton increased what they'd accept.
 
According to ornstein colwill is a separate transaction from cucurella. Brighton want to do it at the same time to make sure Chelsea then don’t refuse to sell colwill.

sounds like it will be circa £55 mil for cucurella

Circa £15 mil for colwill

So approx £40 mil cash outlay for Chelsea and Brighton get a brilliant prospect in return and good cash for cucurella. Brilliant deal for them tbf
 
DMA's said:
According to ornstein colwill is a separate transaction from cucurella. Brighton want to do it at the same time to make sure Chelsea then don’t refuse to sell colwill.

sounds like it will be circa £55 mil for cucurella

Circa £15 mil for colwill

So approx £40 mil cash outlay for Chelsea and Brighton get a brilliant prospect in return and good cash for cucurella. Brilliant deal for them tbf
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Gazump the Colwill deal for 20 million and straight swap Cucurella :)
 
Have we announced we've walked away yet?
If not - I reckon were still in the mix, a mix that apparently now has Barca in it!
The transfer window is full of the biggest load of bullshit reports from twatter, its ridiculous.
Bloom clearly wants an auction - I vote we tell him to stick it up his arse and sing the Macarena. ****.
 
1128 pages for someone who's likely not to kick a ball in anger for us
 
Pretty sad if the players goes to Chelsea, city should have rapped this deal a long time ago, but now it's looking like we have to sign somebody in a panic buy or go without for another season
 
DMA's said:
According to ornstein colwill is a separate transaction from cucurella. Brighton want to do it at the same time to make sure Chelsea then don’t refuse to sell colwill.

sounds like it will be circa £55 mil for cucurella

Circa £15 mil for colwill

So approx £40 mil cash outlay for Chelsea and Brighton get a brilliant prospect in return and good cash for cucurella. Brilliant deal for them tbf
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Yep - they’ve absolutely rinsed Chelsea for every drop they could get out of them on this deal.

They’ll end up with the total value of our entire package (including add ons) mostly up front - plus one of Chelsea’s most exciting Academy prospects and a ready made replacement (given where Cucurella played for them) on top.

As a stand alone deal, you can’t fault it!
 
nellyonthewing said:
If you don’t think he’s anything special why were we in for him? Having identified him as a suitable player and having shown our hand by selling zinchenko we then low balled it . Now we have to divvy up or walk away which is not the outcome we clearly planned. Either way we I think we have handled it very poorly… Cue the ‘my club right or wrong’ bunch.
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Ok firstly how do I answer your first bit? I as in me, doesnt think he’s special, the club I can’t answer for so??? As for low balling, the initial indication was £35m so we offered it, they then moved it to £50m and now everyone is saying pay it.. problem is it isn’t £50m buys him as they are now briefing offers “in excess of” £50m so that’s their we’ll sit down lowest offer to talk figure. But as I say the top LB in the world have gone for similar fee’s so why does he justify that price tag? Still not had anyone answer me lol.
 
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