Mario, time to say goodbye?

[grunge]

Yeah that's go down the easy route and chuck him out already oh dear thank GOD you are not the manager.

Well said Lee, you've got a talent for cutting through the bullshit.

For a guy who is "well-respected" on bluemoon what an embarrassing thread...

i am 100% behind Mario

There seems to be a lot of people missing the point ( unless I am? )

To me the question being posed is could Mario progress further and quick than he can here due to the fact he gets hounded on and off the pitch in the UK?

Its nowt to do with backing him or not.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

So my hypothetical analysis of him is moot?

Most people on this thread also disagree with your opinion, do they not get it also?

No they don't, clearly.

The post isn't about the analysis of Mario as a player, his qualities etc. The op is even caveated to acknowledge my own personal appreciation for him.

It's about never being able to counter his reputation going before him, and how it will affect both City and him in the future.

Hence, throwing the question out about what should we do, including a hypothesis of an acutal sale.

In posters' rush to defend Mario, all very commendable and expected, the thread quickly moved away from the original premise/argument.

It's your argument, but you have left it open to an awful lot of interpretation

By the way, why are you talking about yourself in the third person...? :)

Not that the third person was intentional, ha ha!

Well, simply put, I initiated the thread, and as a result, the topic of debate has become more about how ridiculous it was for me to even impart a hypothesis.

I can't legislate for posters who allow their rush to defend Mario get in the way of properly discussing the actual debate being put forward.

To recap, you remarked this was the most ridiculous thread ever seen on Blue Moon, which I don't believe the OP left it open to different interpretation.

Blues are hurting, turning on each other, seeing things which aren't even there. Feeling persecuted.

The premise of my original argument remains pertinent - Mario can't win and will continue to be an easy target, regardless of continuing to improve his own attitude.

It leaves City with an ongoing dilemma.

 

[Sigh]

Yeah that's go down the easy route and chuck him out already oh dear thank GOD you are not the manager.

Well said Lee, you've got a talent for cutting through the bullshit.

For a guy who is "well-respected" on bluemoon what an embarrassing thread...


i am 100% behind Mario

 

[Didsbury Dave]

First, I would genuinely hate to lose what Mario brings us on the pitch. He is an exceptional talent. Even accepting that this comes at a price, IMO it is a price worth paying.

That has always been the case of course...the madness comes as part of the package. But the price is getting higher, not lower, and therein lies the rub. And Tolm makes an extrememly valid point...his reputation now has upped that price even further.

 

[Anonymous]

Marios biggest problem is he's not english, had that incident on Sunday been Gareth Barry, I don't think we'd have heard much about it.

I don't agree that it's that simple. Mario has a reputation which he partly deserves. He has at times behaved like a petulant arsehole on the field of play. His "antics", as funny as they may see, draw attention to him. HE draws attention to himself constantly. He's a one off and as such, yes, he gets special attention. But he courts it.

Nobody has mentioned this - but he spat in the direction of the ref during the Liverpool cup match the other week. It was disgusting, unnecessary, and on another day he could've been done for that too.

I can understand the desire to defend him because he's a blue - but lets not pretend that he's some persecuted misunderstood innocent. He isn't.

 

[TFC]

I never thought of Mario as a 'long term' member of the squad, always figured we would get 2 maybe 3 years tops.

Couldnt be more happy for him to stay as things stand though, I would hate him to be perceived as running away or the club be perceived as taking the easy way out. Once the lad matures he will be a world beater, but theres no denying he has some maturing to do.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

The big problem as I see it is that we are not seeing significant improvement. He is not showing an ability to learn or improve. When he joined he was a young player with an attitude problem which needed solving. He's still a young player but his attitude problem is still there. A point comes where you have to decide that the negatives are not going away. He gets that many cards and suspensions that, as it stands, he is ultimately a liability.

Last chance saloon, get rid in summer if there is any repeat.

i think he`s improve in every department.

and using this criteria would you if you were the rags sell wayne rooney

He hasn't improved in the discipline deparment, which is what I'm talking about.

i disagree i think he has. occasionally it`s 2 steps forward and one back, but imo he`s still improving both his temper and in his play and he is 21.

rooney on the other hand is 26 and still has moments of madness.

instead of all this witch-hunt which some of our own fans seem to want to join in. would it not be better to have faith in the manager to do the right thing.

or is that a crazy idea.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

and using this criteria would you if you were the rags sell wayne rooney

There's a huge difference though, rooney has "improved", because they now just ignore most of his antics.

And he's England's first-choice striker!

 

[Marvin]

No they don't, clearly.

The post isn't about the analysis of Mario as a player, his qualities etc. The op is even caveated to acknowledge my own personal appreciation for him.

It's about never being able to counter his reputation going before him, and how it will affect both City and him in the future.

Hence, throwing the question out about what should we do, including a hypothesis of an acutal sale.

In posters' rush to defend Mario, all very commendable and expected, the thread quickly moved away from the original premise/argument.

It's your argument, but you have left it open to an awful lot of interpretation

By the way, why are you talking about yourself in the third person...? :)

Not that the third person was intentional, ha ha!

Well, simply put, I initiated the thread, and as a result, the topic of debate has become more about how ridiculous it was for me to even impart a hypothesis.

I can't legislate for posters who allow their rush to defend Mario get in the way of properly discussing the actual debate being put forward.

To recap, you remarked this was the most ridiculous thread ever seen on Blue Moon, which I don't believe the OP left it open to different interpretation.

Blues are hurting, turning on each other, seeing things which aren't even there. Feeling persecuted.

The premise of my original argument remains pertinent - Mario can't win and will continue to be an easy target, regardless of continuing to improve his own attitude.

It leaves City with an ongoing dilemma.

He's 21. He will learn, and is doing so

 

[cyprustavern]

Well said Lee, you've got a talent for cutting through the bullshit.

For a guy who is "well-respected" on bluemoon what an embarrassing thread...




i am 100% behind Mario

It's obvious he likes starting controversial threads for the attention.

The Adrian Durham of Bluemoon ay