Mario, time to say goodbye?

[Pigeonho]

I think we need to stick by Mario. Its like your son or daughter being sent to prison for a petty crime. Would you turn your backs on them or stand by them and get them help.

Football and your kids getting sent down are nothing like the same. If balotelli was being wrongly accused of something which didn't happen then fair enough, back him to the hilt but the fact is, he lashed out. Whether he meant to get Parker's face or not is irrelevant, (and I don't think he did try to hurt him), because the intention to stamp back is enough to warrant the ban he's received. It's really simple, don't lash out and no-one gets banned.
Redknapp is looking out for his team and his club as with Balotelli gone, its a glimmer of hope they can catch us up. Mancini would do the same thing i'm sure. Bottom line though is if Balotelli hadn't done it, Redknapp would have had nothing to bitch about.
It is down to one persons actions alone, Balotelli.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

No way. Why throw the baby out with the bath water ?
Patrick Vieira should be the go to man to help him work out his on field problems. Afterall he was a dirty fucker on his day and had to cope with the media pressure as a consequence.

 

[blueprint]

do you not reallise this is what they want, whos next bobby manc his self, he is doing all their heads in, a 20 year old lad who is being hounded the biggest bunch of venomous cunts to ever grace the media, lets look at who as had something to say about this incident, right
1 redknapp spurs,
2 neville man united
3 souness liverpool
4 teddy sherringham spurs man united
5 wilkins man united
6 mabbut spurs
7 the list is endless all with biased opinions,what has city had to say nothing as yet, ok ban the boy but dont hound him out, ive never in my life watch and listened to a poisonous set of hypocritical shithouses on tv and radio ever. by the way if he does go when he comes back in a couple of years to say chelsea man united or such will we be saying why did we let him go. this is totally over top trial by media, about time city started to take these phone hacking twats to task.

'tis.
By proxy.

 

[samharris]

He didnt act like a fucking idiot at the swamp. I expect City players to be professional in EVERY match, not just when it suits him.

But he did act like an idiot he got a silly yellow card for his "why always me" top..one more yellow and he'd have been off..

And I'd expect you to stick by City players all the time...not just when it suits you..

By that logic I should stick up for Carlos Tevez? Or just the ones that suit me?

Tevez is a grown man and a **** to boot...Mario is Mario Good days and bad days...

 

[blink922]

This is the type of thread we laugh at on Ragcafe.

Tomorrow's headlines: "CITY FANS WANT MARIO GONE!"

Let's keep giving them ammo shall we?

Are you seriously bothered what redcafe says...do you think East Enders is real life?

Insert any other supporters forum. RAWK, Glory Glory, whatever. Not the point of my post in the least.

Glad you take things so personally though.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Did Gerrard not look a liability when he was getting sent off left right and centre as a 21 year old?

I think you are the one that should 'engage your brain' and stop believing the propaganda aimed at him.

You don't get it, do you?

It's a hypothetical thread about what is best for not just us, but Mario also.

A myth has been perpetuated, to a degree, and can be reflected in the unwarranted yellow cards.

All the same, propoganda is bullshit. He's kicked someone in the fucking head and has let himself and the team town AGAIN.

Regadless of intend, he has previous for it, and that's proved his undoing this time.

His reputation, forged to a large degree by himself, is the reason he has become an easy target.

Difference is, I think the lad will never be able to realise it in this country.

It's gone too far.

That may have been your intention but it is certainly not what this thread has become.

Because it's clear they have not read the OP or their blue-tinted glasses are such, they can't get by supposed agendas.

The debate is not about should we back Mario, it's about the best course of action is going forward.

 

[GerBlueBear]

I'll keep my response short, I'm trying not to ramble on this one...

Unless he matures by the summer and proves what he's got to offer then I wouldn't care if he goes. Maybe he needs to sit on the bench and wait for his chances, I gather he is young but at 21 there's no need to act half your age, stamping is a definate no for me and he can take a hefty ban for it, he deserves it.

If what I've read today is true, that Mario will consider his options in 2013 then he may aswel go this summer and buy another top class striker in (Cavani), because there's just not enough time between now and then to get the very best out of him. He needs to be here for another 3 years after this one and if he's planning to assess options now for next year then just go, I'll have someone here who wants to win trophies for years to come, like Aguero.

 

[mcfcphil]

i think its absolutly vital we stand our ground here and back our boy, we and he are being bullied out of pissing this league.
what do we do when they start on our next big name signing? sell him now and we have just rubber stamped(no pun intended)their wishes.

fuck em city. mario is ours and he's fucking staying that way.

we need to get cavani either way :)

Exactly this. Can turn this into a positive. While the media is in a frenzy we use it to our advantage – tell the world that Mario is being punished retrospectively when other players aren’t, he’s being sent off unjustifiably (Liverpool) and is being booked for tackles that no other player would be.
The club need to put all this out there – put it into the minds of the referee and FA so that people will now actually look out for whether he is or isn’t being persecuted. If refs and the FA know the footballing world is analysing the decisions looking for harsh treatment then I think they will be less inclined to book/send him off.
We need to play the media game in the same way others have done to get Mario banned this time

 

[redmizzle]

At the end of the day only Balotelli knows whether or not he intended to kick out at Parker. If he knows within himself that he did it on purpose, i think the punishment might be easier for him to take, however, if it was really accidental/involuntary/not on purpose, he will fell very hard done by and that's when we'll have a problem with him not wanting to be here or take anymore of this witch hunt.

 

[Plain Speaking]

A key difference between Cantona and Balo is Utd are the long term media darlings, whereas City are portrayed as a pariah ruining football.
Our owners will abhor bad publicity. We were bought to promote their country and good name.

I can see the arguements on both sides.

At the end of the day Mancini and Mario need to sit down and talk about whether Mario is prepared to put up with future abuse and provokation by opposing fans and players and potentially unfair treatment by referees who will pre-judge him.

If he can cope with that and is keen to stay he could win us trophies. If he cannot cope with being treated unfairly he should go.

 

[RodneysMarsh]

You don't get it, do you?

It's a hypothetical thread about what is best for not just us, but Mario also.

A myth has been perpetuated, to a degree, and can be reflected in the unwarranted yellow cards.

All the same, propoganda is bullshit. He's kicked someone in the fucking head and has let himself and the team town AGAIN.

Regadless of intend, he has previous for it, and that's proved his undoing this time.

His reputation, forged to a large degree by himself, is the reason he has become an easy target.

Difference is, I think the lad will never be able to realise it in this country.

It's gone too far.

That may have been your intention but it is certainly not what this thread has become.

Because it's clear they have not read the OP or their blue-tinted glasses are such, they can't get by supposed agendas.

The debate is not about should we back Mario, it's about the best course of action is going forward.

The best course of action going forwards is to back Mario.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

Agreed, I'm sorry but you cannot trust the guy. He is a liability and unfortunately he will never rid himself of the stupid Self Destruct Button he has in his head.

I want him to do well and want him to realise his potential with us. Just cannot see it happening.

are you trying to say he`s another rooney

 

[Aphex]

Seriously? Engage your brain.

It's a debate about the pros and cons, not how fucking old he is.

For the record, the flip side of the argument is that there are plenty of 21 year-old's who don't have a trigger switch.

Bury your head in the sand, but people are born a certain way. Mario can play 20 games on the trot and score 20 goals.

Means jack shit the next time he lets himself down. How about a Champions League Final or a derby?

Did Gerrard not look a liability when he was getting sent off left right and centre as a 21 year old?

I think you are the one that should 'engage your brain' and stop believing the propaganda aimed at him.

You don't get it, do you?

It's a hypothetical thread about what is best for not just us, but Mario also.

A myth has been perpetuated, to a degree, and can be reflected in the unwarranted yellow cards.

All the same, propoganda is bullshit. He's kicked someone in the fucking head and has let himself and the team down AGAIN.

Regadless of intent, he had previous for it, and that's proved his undoing this time.

His reputation, forged to a large degree by himself, is the reason he has become an easy target.

Difference is, sadly, I think the lad will never be able to realise it in this country.

It's gone too far.

So my hypothetical analysis of him is moot?

Most people on this thread also disagree with your opinion, do they not get it also?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Take the intent out of the kick against Parker.

Someone care to enlighten how Mario continues to go out on to the field of play and avoid being pre-judged, on past rep?

He can't. Which will only continue to hurt the team.

 

[phil31]

I think we need to stick by Mario. Its like your son or daughter being sent to prison for a petty crime. Would you turn your backs on them or stand by them and get them help.

Football and your kids getting sent down are nothing like the same. If balotelli was being wrongly accused of something which didn't happen then fair enough, back him to the hilt but the fact is, he lashed out. Whether he meant to get Parker's face or not is irrelevant, (and I don't think he did try to hurt him), because the intention to stamp back is enough to warrant the ban he's received. It's really simple, don't lash out and no-one gets banned.
Redknapp is looking out for his team and his club as with Balotelli gone, its a glimmer of hope they can catch us up. Mancini would do the same thing i'm sure. Bottom line though is if Balotelli hadn't done it, Redknapp would have had nothing to bitch about.
It is down to one persons actions alone, Balotelli.

Your missing the point mate. Im saying that if your offspring goes out at the weekend and gets in a drunken brawl and ends up doing six months in Strangeways would you turn your back them. Its the same situation with Mario. He's done something that probably deserves a 4 game ban, but he has a bright future. Same hypotheically can be said of your son whose been sent to Strangeways.
Shit happens at a young age. Mario is a character with genius potential with a football at his feet.

 

[Petetheblu]

Fuck me there's some drama ladies on hear!!!

Get rid of mario!! Are you mad??

Every GREAT team throughout modern history has had a crazy mutha manager or player, it's just that everything is seen through a magnifying glass nowadays.

Let's put it this way if not Mario then who? Ask yourself that and grow some bollox!!!!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Whilst there is no dispute to the wealth of natural talent Mario has, it's a wider question.

Sometimes you have to let go the ones you love, for the good of the main parties concerned.

Mario WILL NEVER realise the player he needs to become in this country. I have reached this conclusion over the last 12 months.

His previous will continue to be raked up and as a result, his future, massively impacted.

A yellow card is the default position for every game he takes part in, justified or not, as reputation proceeds him.

As a result of the Parker incident, and the moral outrage over every cough and splutter, it is only going to get worse.

I believe a ban is warranted for the latest foul-up, and he has again let himself and us down.

I just think it would now make good sense between now and the window to stick two fingers to the system and sell him in exchange for another top class striker.

We are only delaying the inevitable IMO. Mario has become larger than the game itself in this small-minded country and his character and talent is why WE LOVE HIM.

But sometimes you have to do right by the ones you love.

I suppose we should continue to trust the powers-that-be at City, but if down to me, I would consider a swap proposal for Cavani at Napoli right this minute.

Naples, outside of Madrid, might be the only footballing town big enough to protect their own.

So he stays. Support, and then hopefully the idiots with the whistles will realise that he is targetted by players not fit to lace his boots (Do boots still have laces?), he gets the free kicks for all the fouls committed against him and he becomes PL top scorer and winner of the Golden Boot. Stick that up yer tax return, 'Arry!

 

[BillyMC]

Its not people wanting him to go, but if he cant control his actions on the pitch there is little choice in the matter. Everyone agrees he's a special talent when he wants to be, but if he is going to miss 10 games every year becuase of silly fouls what do City do. This is what the OP is getting at. For the greater good of the team either he changes his attitude or he has to go??

 

[Dave S]

Unfortunately he is a liability and I would swap him tomorrow. Every time he plays I fear the worst and most times my fears are well founded. How many more times is he going to let us down by doing something completely stupid and uncalled for? Balo will never change in my opinion. As Souness said, he is a car-crash waiting to happen every time he sets foot on the pitch.

 

[BillyMC]

But he did act like an idiot he got a silly yellow card for his "why always me" top..one more yellow and he'd have been off..

And I'd expect you to stick by City players all the time...not just when it suits you..

By that logic I should stick up for Carlos Tevez? Or just the ones that suit me?

Tevez is a grown man and a **** to boot...Mario is Mario Good days and bad days...

Tell that to the people who slaughtered Savic the other day...not quite as fashionable as Mario?