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Mario, time to say goodbye?
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Can't believe this thread not only is mario a fantastic player he is also big box office and the more I've watched the clip of the so called stamp the more I would like to drive to the fa and take a shit on someones desk.he has been shafted big style the sending off at Liverpool was a utter joke and most of his yellows are for nothing challenges.Get behind him
It should be quite clear that if he does have to leave - and sadly it might come to that - it will be almost entirely due to the quite unjustified hounding he is receiving.
It is quite clear that there are some (many?) in the Man.City fanbase - at least those who post on this forum - who would actually want that to happen.
Whatever the reasons, double standards abound in football.
If it were a player such as Alan Shearer or Paul Scholes who had been guilty of the possibly intended stamp in the Spurs match, it would have been a very very good bet that the FA would have done nothing, giving the player the "benefit of the doubt". Because they of course are iconic figures who are supposed to represent the best of British football/sport/character - courageous, hard working, sportrmanlike etc.etc.
Yet I remember Shearer kicking the head of an opposing player, with a much more obvious intent than Balo's stamp. Nothing was done, FA decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Player's such as Mario will never get that from the FA or the Media.
The media have an ambiguous attitude to players such as Balo. On the one hand they make them into hate figures, constantly producing lists of their "moments of shame" (see the Sun today - I don't buy the rag, but read it in my local cafe). On the other they really need them to sell papers, because an EPL composed entirely of Scholes type personalities would be much less interesting.
And it seems there are some on this forum who want to see City represented only by Shearer/Scholes types. If more of this hounding goes on they may get their wish.
It is quite clear that there are some (many?) in the Man.City fanbase - at least those who post on this forum - who would actually want that to happen.
Whatever the reasons, double standards abound in football.
If it were a player such as Alan Shearer or Paul Scholes who had been guilty of the possibly intended stamp in the Spurs match, it would have been a very very good bet that the FA would have done nothing, giving the player the "benefit of the doubt". Because they of course are iconic figures who are supposed to represent the best of British football/sport/character - courageous, hard working, sportrmanlike etc.etc.
Yet I remember Shearer kicking the head of an opposing player, with a much more obvious intent than Balo's stamp. Nothing was done, FA decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Player's such as Mario will never get that from the FA or the Media.
The media have an ambiguous attitude to players such as Balo. On the one hand they make them into hate figures, constantly producing lists of their "moments of shame" (see the Sun today - I don't buy the rag, but read it in my local cafe). On the other they really need them to sell papers, because an EPL composed entirely of Scholes type personalities would be much less interesting.
And it seems there are some on this forum who want to see City represented only by Shearer/Scholes types. If more of this hounding goes on they may get their wish.
Blue Haze
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Reminds me of RAWK. Suarez is a victim etc etc
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
brian the blue
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ban-mcfc said:mods delete this embarrasing thread please
anyone could read it.
This. It's a joke of a thread.
I love the guy, but this will keep on happening, not just because he doesn’t really help himself, but even when he is innocent, he NEVER gets the benefit of the doubt - as they say, ‘give a dog a bad name'. It costs us, it costs him and eventually we have to face the fact that through a mixture if idiocy and prejudice, we would be better off with a ‘safer’ and more ‘politically acceptable’ player. It’s a sad state of affairs, but there’s not much we can do about it apart from sign a Michael Owen type clone who the FA can wank over and who could commit anal rape on the pitch and not be charged.
MCC
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Vieira is the man here to have a word with Mario. He suffered at the beginning of his career at Arsenal and his reputation got him in a lot of trouble. He matured and overcame them to become one helluva player.
Keep Mario and get Cavani in the summer.
Keep Mario and get Cavani in the summer.
Blue Haze said:Reminds me of RAWK. Suarez is a victim etc etc
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
You are missing the POINT Haze. Balo is michevious, he gets into trouble. Fine, no problem, ban him for 2-3-4 games whatever you like. The problem is why are ENGLISH players who play for England getting away with it? It's inconsistency, its NOT FAIR PLAY as FIFA rule. We don't need to list all the times the FA have been biased, just look at Crouch with intent to harm just now which is not being pursued?!!
There is no protection for players in England against the FA and there is sooo much inconsistency that is frankly embarrassing and a joke and the weight Premier League football has around the world is about to diminish and no huge International stars (likes of Aguero, Van Persie, Silva etc) will not want to play here and I wouldn't blame them.
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I agree. Paddy's wise words have helped Micah enormously, perhaps he can help Mario too?MCC said:Vieira is the man here to have a word with Mario. He suffered at the beginning of his career at Arsenal and his reputation got him in a lot of trouble. He matured and overcame them to become one helluva player.
Keep Mario and get Cavani in the summer.
Well, I, for one, am not a Man.City fan, and I'm also not defending Balo - he does do stupid immature things, but then so do many 21 year olds.Blue Haze said:Reminds me of RAWK. Suarez is a victim etc etc
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
And every club has siege mentality fans - every club has fans who believe the FA/refs/the media/world etc. is against them.
But the double standards in the treatment of individual players are quite clear when you look at the way they have been treated by the FA
gordondaviesmoustache
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This 'project' is being managed by some people with a vision for our club. A vision that in time we will be viewed with fear and respect by everyone else within the game. It is a view I share and does anyone seriously doubt that it will become a reality?
Mario Balotelli fits in with that vision perfectly. A truly global superstar who is only 21 has the talent to perform at the highest level and what are we going to do?
Cut and run like the small time club we used to be?
No.
Nothing will cement our status and grind the likes of united into the dirt more than making this relationship work. Mario loves and gets this football club. He must be given more a rigid framework and learn to control his aggression, and he must appreciate that no-one is indispensable to any organisation if that relationship is to work, but the prize is too great for us to give up at this stage.
The potential with this player is too great a prize to discard, as doing so and regretting it at a later date would be far, far worse than keeping him and it not working out.
Stick, but monitor closely.
Mario Balotelli fits in with that vision perfectly. A truly global superstar who is only 21 has the talent to perform at the highest level and what are we going to do?
Cut and run like the small time club we used to be?
No.
Nothing will cement our status and grind the likes of united into the dirt more than making this relationship work. Mario loves and gets this football club. He must be given more a rigid framework and learn to control his aggression, and he must appreciate that no-one is indispensable to any organisation if that relationship is to work, but the prize is too great for us to give up at this stage.
The potential with this player is too great a prize to discard, as doing so and regretting it at a later date would be far, far worse than keeping him and it not working out.
Stick, but monitor closely.
Blue Haze
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BlueRiz said:Blue Haze said:Reminds me of RAWK. Suarez is a victim etc etc
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
You are missing the POINT Haze. Balo is michevious, he gets into trouble. Fine, no problem, ban him for 2-3-4 games whatever you like. The problem is why are ENGLISH players who play for England getting away with it? It's inconsistency, its NOT FAIR PLAY as FIFA rule. We don't need to list all the times the FA have been biased, just look at Crouch with intent to harm just now which is not being pursued?!!
There is no protection for players in England against the FA and there is sooo much inconsistency that is frankly embarrassing and a joke and the weight Premier League football has around the world is about to diminish and no huge International stars (likes of Aguero, Van Persie, Silva etc) will not want to play here.
I don't think Crouch is relevant. The OP talks about how Mario will never be treated fairly in England. What does that have to do with Crouch? Mario can stay and won't be banned if he stops kicking players and generally getting involved in incidents that paint him in a cynical light.
Foreign players do get treated differently, but in this case only when he crossed the line by kicking a player. Don't kick Parker, problem solved. We have about a dozen foreign players who have no issues with the FA.
Setting aside the "stamp" which is difficult to guage. I can grudgingly accept a ban for that if other players get hauled up as well. They don't. And what's more look at some of the previous cards Balotelli has picked up. The booking v Spurs was a joke as was the sending off at Liverpool
Hopefully we will, because the alternative is that his absence may cost us over the next few games.johnny crossan said:Maybe we'll look back in May and realise that his Spurs penalty won us the league!
I like Mario but never have my palms sweat so much when I see a player run onto the pitch. That's part of the attraction because you know he is capable of a match winner out of nothing; but then there is always the other side of the coin that makes me nervous and sees him as a possible liability. Not just for the match being played but for plans over the next few games.
Oohvonkyvonky
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We've got to stick with - he will see the error of his ways. Its not something new, this flawed genius footballer malarky... Remember the early days of;
Gazza
Ronaldo
Cantona - Anightmare at sheff weds/leeds
Beckham - kicking out
Duncan Ferguson
They all got there in the end - Unfortunately 3 of those at the scum had a huge influence in the trophies they won over the years c**ts
They had a manager who backed them to the hilt, as Mancini will with Balo. We should too and I'm sure even with some of the posts on here, he will get the backing of the majority.
F**k the haters - they'll be swarming around him and us for years to come!
Gazza
Ronaldo
Cantona - Anightmare at sheff weds/leeds
Beckham - kicking out
Duncan Ferguson
They all got there in the end - Unfortunately 3 of those at the scum had a huge influence in the trophies they won over the years c**ts
They had a manager who backed them to the hilt, as Mancini will with Balo. We should too and I'm sure even with some of the posts on here, he will get the backing of the majority.
F**k the haters - they'll be swarming around him and us for years to come!
Comrade Buka
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Uwe's 80s mullet said:how many chances is he going to get to become this 'legend'?hgblue said:No way. Back him 100%. Stick with him through this rough patch. Show him the love next time he plays, and reap the benefits for many years to come. Has the talent and the right manager to become a legend here if we stick together and stick two fingers up to all the jealous wankers getting on his case.
lol he is 21...
matt99is said:We're down to one striker and a baby giraffe!! I'd be putting Kolarov up front over dzeko tbh
Is this the latest fashion, having a go at Dzeko?
Why don't we get rid of Dzeko, Richards, Zabaleta, Adam Johnson, Balotelli, Milner, Barry, Hart, Savic, Kolarov, Cliche, Nasri, Lescott, Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure because at one time or another each of these players has been well slagged off?
Dzeko scored the only goal against Wigan and provided an assist against Spurs. You can't question his attitude and his goal to game time is top drawer.
Sometimes he looks clumsy and his touch deserts him. That happens to every player including the great white Pele. He's a strong runner, great passer and isn't afraid to mix it.
I've seen Aguero miss quite a few chances over the last few games without anyone making a big deal of it but if Dzeko misses a chance he's useless. He needs a run of games is all. He showed earlier in the season he can be an awesome player.
Imagine if his scoring record was similar to Torres'. Then you'd have a point.
Blue Haze said:BlueRiz said:Blue Haze said:Reminds me of RAWK. Suarez is a victim etc etc
No, Mario is not a victim of England. He is a victim of his own poor decisions. He can get a fair shake in England if he stops doing stupid things that get him carded.
Look at the way Aguero, Dzeko and Silva play. You never see any controversy surrounding what they do. It's no coincidence that they avoid being targets of the refs and the FA. Dzeko in particular initiates more physical contact than Mario and doesn't get targeted. Why? Because he acts professionally.
This Suarez siege mentality crap makes me sick.
You are missing the POINT Haze. Balo is michevious, he gets into trouble. Fine, no problem, ban him for 2-3-4 games whatever you like. The problem is why are ENGLISH players who play for England getting away with it? It's inconsistency, its NOT FAIR PLAY as FIFA rule. We don't need to list all the times the FA have been biased, just look at Crouch with intent to harm just now which is not being pursued?!!
There is no protection for players in England against the FA and there is sooo much inconsistency that is frankly embarrassing and a joke and the weight Premier League football has around the world is about to diminish and no huge International stars (likes of Aguero, Van Persie, Silva etc) will not want to play here.
I don't think Crouch is relevant. The OP talks about how Mario will never be treated fairly in England. What does that have to do with Crouch? Mario can stay and won't be banned if he stops kicking players and generally getting involved in incidents that paint him in a cynical light.
Foreign players do get treated differently, but in this case only when he crossed the line by kicking a player. Don't kick Parker, problem solved. We have about a dozen foreign players who have no issues with the FA.
Foreign players do get treated differently by refs - Doesn't sound good mate and I think we call it xenophobia. Haze, the problem is YOU cannot and I don't care who you are, guarantee Balo has 100% intent of violence when he stamped down. Everyone has said only Balo would know. So you saying Don't kick Parker, problem solved, you;re just as bad as the FA who say Guilty and can't be proven innocent and if you try I'll increase your ban!
"The OP talks about how Mario will never be treated fairly in England. What does that have to do with Crouch?" errmmm... everything. Crouch had intent to harm (we all know that from the video of him raising his hand and raking the players face). Balo trips and turns and stamps down near Parkers head, but there was REASONABLE DOUBT and you cannot 100% say he had intent to harm BECAUSE he was falling at the same time. That's why there is no FAIR TREATMENT. Both players were reviewed by the FA to possibly charged for Violent Conduct, Balo gets it but Crouch scott free to do it again when he wants.
gregblag said:matt99is said:We're down to one striker and a baby giraffe!! I'd be putting Kolarov up front over dzeko tbh
Is this the latest fashion, having a go at Dzeko?
Why don't we get rid of Dzeko, Richards, Zabaleta, Adam Johnson, Balotelli, Milner, Barry, Hart, Savic, Kolarov, Cliche, Nasri, Lescott, Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure because at one time or another each of these players has been well slagged off.
Dzeko scored the only goal against Wigan and provided an assist against Spurs. You can't question his attitude and his goal to game time is top drawer.
Sometimes he looks clumsy and his touch deserts him. That happens to every player including the great white Pele. He's a strong runner, great passer and isn't afraid to mix it.
I've seen Aguero miss quite a few chances over the last few games without anyone making a big deal of it but if Dzeko misses a chance he's useless. He needs a run of games is all. He showed earlier in the season he can be an awesome player.
Imagine if his scoring record was similar to Torres'. Then you'd have a point.
spot on greg, Dzeko for me once he stops blockingSsergios chances looks the better starting partner for Sergio, Mario brings a different option altogether, the bottom line is we have 3 strikers the whole of Europe are envious of, a good mix, add to that Torres and i think were on a winner....:)
KolarovsLeftPeg
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Look at Rooney, constantly in trouble, but United have stuck with him, and he scores 20+ goals a season for them now.
Stick with Mario, yes he'll have the occasional bit of bother but he'll gradually grow out of it, and he'll grow into being our best striker over the coming years.
Stick with Mario, yes he'll have the occasional bit of bother but he'll gradually grow out of it, and he'll grow into being our best striker over the coming years.