Martin Demichelis

[BoyBlue_1985]

Martin Keown

I dont understand your point here

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

Oh right I was thinking cant be slating him as a defender because he was a bloody good one even if he does look like a gorilla

 

[Neville Kneville]

Martin Keown

I dont understand your point here

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

As opposed to just telling the truth ?

 

[aguero93:20]

I dont understand your point here

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

Oh right I was thinking cant be slating him as a defender because he was a bloody good one even if he does look like a gorilla

Arsenal should have won their last two matches v us convincingly as well don't forget.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

at fault again last night and cost us the game in the chelsea league match..just too fuckin slow…everybody knows he's our weak link!!

Actually the Chelsea game wasn't fully his fault as he was being left alone in the middle of the pitch by a lazy none tracking Yaya. Though please do pick the easy target and don't have a go at Yaya for Chelsea as you might be extradited for saying as much.

 

[Neville Kneville]

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

Oh right I was thinking cant be slating him as a defender because he was a bloody good one even if he does look like a gorilla

Arsenal should have won their last two matches v us convincingly as well don't forget.

So he's wrong about that technical point then is he ?

Perhaps you can both tell us, what position Demichelis should take up then ?

 

[Utter bobbins]

I dont understand your point here

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

As opposed to just telling the truth ?

It was a number of circumstances leading to that goal, I suggest you listen to the manager take on it and not another so called expert venting his spleen on a city player he constantly has a go at

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

Oh right I was thinking cant be slating him as a defender because he was a bloody good one even if he does look like a gorilla

Arsenal should have won their last two matches v us convincingly as well don't forget.

He said they should of won in the 6-3?

 

[CAPTAINKIPPAX]

While I confess that MDM is not a favourite of mine after watching a re-run of the move that led to the penalty i feel that the positioning of other defenders didn't help him either I favoured Lescott alongside Vinny and was somewhat surprised that his performance against Chelsea hadn't earned him a start for this game.Pell likes and rates the bloke he must see something none of us see but heyho can't dwell on it it's now gone people and we march on COS WE ARE CITY !

 

[Neville Kneville]

If it doesn't play in a red and white shirt at the emirates it gets slaughtered

As opposed to just telling the truth ?

It was a number of circumstances leading to that goal, I suggest you listen to the manager take on it and not another so called expert venting his spleen on a city player he constantly has a go at

I don't need to listen to the manager, I watched the game.

Is Keown right about the tecnical point he makes re Demichelis' position or not ? Is he telling lies about what position players are trained to take ?

 

[smevchenko]

The game hadn't even started and I could have sworn some fans near me actually wanted MD to make a mistake. Quite depressing listening to fans who are constantly negative. Like someone said on here, the media have created this opinion that he is rubbish, granted, he's not perfect but he's our player and he should be supported as such.
After the game at the weekend against Chelsea I was of the opinion that Lescott should have started, however the selection of MD did not cost us the game. I am disappointed that we didn't play to our strengths and go for it like we have done for the majority of the season, would rather have lost 3-1, 4-2 knowing we caused them many more problems than we did. We may even have won with a bit more adventure.
But even that is not accepting that Barcelona are still one of the top 2 or 3 teams in Europe and the team they fielded have played together at this level for years. They may well have won regardless of the personnel and tactics we employed. Which is why I think looking back, we may regret not having more of a go.

 

[Utter bobbins]

As opposed to just telling the truth ?

It was a number of circumstances leading to that goal, I suggest you listen to the manager take on it and not another so called expert venting his spleen on a city player he constantly has a go at

I don't need to listen to the manager, I watched the game.

Is Keown right about the tecnical point he makes re Demichelis' position or not ? Is he telling lies about what position players are trained to take ?

The ball was lost to a foul on Navas the other defenders were coming out Kompany stepped back unless MDM has eyes in the back of his head I'm not sure what he is supposed to do. Did Kompany shout to MDM I don't know

 

[aguero93:20]

As opposed to just telling the truth ?

It was a number of circumstances leading to that goal, I suggest you listen to the manager take on it and not another so called expert venting his spleen on a city player he constantly has a go at

I don't need to listen to the manager, I watched the game.

Is Keown right about the tecnical point he makes re Demichelis' position or not ? Is he telling lies about what position players are trained to take ?

Quickest centre half sets the offside trap and sets it off as well, as for what he's said it depends on the two, MDM and VK will have discussed this before the game and most likely they couldn't have played offside together with the disparity in speeds. Also Vinnie would run him into the ground if they were to stay level all game.

 

[Neville Kneville]

It was a number of circumstances leading to that goal, I suggest you listen to the manager take on it and not another so called expert venting his spleen on a city player he constantly has a go at

I don't need to listen to the manager, I watched the game.

Is Keown right about the tecnical point he makes re Demichelis' position or not ? Is he telling lies about what position players are trained to take ?

Quickest centre half sets the offside trap and sets it off as well, as for what he's said it depends on the two, MDM and VK will have discussed this before the game and most likely they couldn't have played offside together with the disparity in speeds. Also Vinnie would run him into the ground if they were to stay level all game.

So instead of that, it's the best idea, to leave a fucking great hole in the middle of the defence for Messi to run into? They decided that would be the plan & Keown is talking bollocks ?

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Does anyone think if Lescott was playing the result from that position would of been the same I only ask as I think Lescott has great positional sense which is good for him as his pace is not great.
I wouldn't of played him from the start last night but its more than likely he will start at the Nou Camp so we got to have some faith in the lad

 

[aguero93:20]

I don't need to listen to the manager, I watched the game.

Is Keown right about the tecnical point he makes re Demichelis' position or not ? Is he telling lies about what position players are trained to take ?

Quickest centre half sets the offside trap and sets it off as well, as for what he's said it depends on the two, MDM and VK will have discussed this before the game and most likely they couldn't have played offside together with the disparity in speeds. Also Vinnie would run him into the ground if they were to stay level all game.

So instead of that, it's the best idea, to leave a fucking great hole in the middle of the defence for Messi to run into? They decided that would be the plan & Keown is talking bollocks ?

Actually my guess would be the plan was for Vinnie to step up and play him offside taking him out of the game temporarily, which worked every time but 1, due to either a lack of concentration or Vinnie not hearing a shout, or Zaba losing Fabregas, take your pick.

 

[Mike N]

Not MDM's biggest fan but I think a lot of fans are being too critical of him. Any of our back-four could have given that penalty away.

Time to put it behind up and move on.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Quickest centre half sets the offside trap and sets it off as well, as for what he's said it depends on the two, MDM and VK will have discussed this before the game and most likely they couldn't have played offside together with the disparity in speeds. Also Vinnie would run him into the ground if they were to stay level all game.

So instead of that, it's the best idea, to leave a fucking great hole in the middle of the defence for Messi to run into? They decided that would be the plan & Keown is talking bollocks ?

Actually my guess would be the plan was for Vinnie to step up and play him offside taking him out of the game temporarily, which worked every time but 1, due to either a lack of concentration or Vinnie not hearing a shout, or Zaba losing Fabregas, take your pick.

The plan is not for Vinny to be 1v1 with Lionel Messi ffs!! How is that going to work for 90 mins??!! We are supposed to have a PAIR of central defenders. One of them fucked off & when the move broke down, was in no position to do his job. He was watching the ball, rather then considering the position of his partner. Which is what Keown is talking about.

Vinny did play him offside, but he came back on again & because there was no 2nd central defender in position, had a run on goal.

 

[aguero93:20]

So instead of that, it's the best idea, to leave a fucking great hole in the middle of the defence for Messi to run into? They decided that would be the plan & Keown is talking bollocks ?

Actually my guess would be the plan was for Vinnie to step up and play him offside taking him out of the game temporarily, which worked every time but 1, due to either a lack of concentration or Vinnie not hearing a shout, or Zaba losing Fabregas, take your pick.

The plan is not for Vinny to be 1v1 with Lionel Messi ffs!! How is that going to work for 90 mins??!! We are supposed to have a PAIR of central defenders. One of them fucked off & when the move broke down, was in no position to do his job. He was watching the ball, rather then considering the position of his partner. Which is what Keown is talking about.

Vinny did play him offside, but he came back on again & because there was no 2nd central defender in position, had a run on goal.

Which defender are you referring to here? neither of them are looking at Messi or each other.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Actually my guess would be the plan was for Vinnie to step up and play him offside taking him out of the game temporarily, which worked every time but 1, due to either a lack of concentration or Vinnie not hearing a shout, or Zaba losing Fabregas, take your pick.

The plan is not for Vinny to be 1v1 with Lionel Messi ffs!! How is that going to work for 90 mins??!! We are supposed to have a PAIR of central defenders. One of them fucked off & when the move broke down, was in no position to do his job. He was watching the ball, rather then considering the position of his partner. Which is what Keown is talking about.

Vinny did play him offside, but he came back on again & because there was no 2nd central defender in position, had a run on goal.

Which defender are you referring to here? neither of them are looking at Messi or each other.

Demichelis came jogging down the pitch, watching City going forward, ignoring where Kompany AND LIONEL MESSI were. He suddenly realised when Navas dived, that Barca had 2v1 on Zabba, Vinny had Lionel Messi running in behind him & he made a desperate attempt to run back where he should have been, then kicked Messi over & spewed us the game.

 

[aguero93:20]

The plan is not for Vinny to be 1v1 with Lionel Messi ffs!! How is that going to work for 90 mins??!! We are supposed to have a PAIR of central defenders. One of them fucked off & when the move broke down, was in no position to do his job. He was watching the ball, rather then considering the position of his partner. Which is what Keown is talking about.

Vinny did play him offside, but he came back on again & because there was no 2nd central defender in position, had a run on goal.

Which defender are you referring to here? neither of them are looking at Messi or each other.

Demichelis came jogging down the pitch, watching City going forward, ignoring where Kompany AND LIONEL MESSI were. He suddenly realised when Navas dived, that Barca had 2v1 on Zabba, Vinny had Lionel Messi running in behind him & he made a desperate attempt to run back where he should have been, then kicked Messi over & spewed us the game.

That's your opinion, it was obviously part of our tactical approach last night that MDM squeezed the midfield and pressurised passes (as it has been in other games this season) so I wouldn't say he was jogging down the pitch. For me, Navas, Vinnie, Zaba and MDM are all equally to blame and it was a great run by Messi.