Martin Samuel today in the mail.

The Future's Blue said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Let's have this right.

I had no idea that Rooney had celebrated in front of the City fans. If I'm honest I couldn't care less.

But when Rooney was running over to take that corner I said to my mate "You watch, he'll get hit by a missile here". Then I saw him pointing at the floor and said "See?"

Crowds quoting "incitement" are pathetic buck-passers. Players get dogs abuse from crowds. If they want to give a bit back it doesn't bother me. It's exactly the same as the Adebayor situation. And if City insist on putting their most vociferous fans right by the corner flag this sort of thing will happen from time to time.
I think the point within this statement is that 'You knew' what was going to happen. If 'You knew' then it's probably right to believe that the players also knew the situation which brings us back to the 'incitement' issue.

Throwing missiles onto the pitch needs to be addressed but if they aren't given a reason to do it, then it may just not happen.

Just a thought.

Scoring a goal against you, or celebrating a goal against you is NO reason to throw something at them. END OF!

Normal human being rules apply wether you are in a football ground, in a pub, in your own home, anywhere.
 
The Future's Blue said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Let's have this right.

I had no idea that Rooney had celebrated in front of the City fans. If I'm honest I couldn't care less.

But when Rooney was running over to take that corner I said to my mate "You watch, he'll get hit by a missile here". Then I saw him pointing at the floor and said "See?"

Crowds quoting "incitement" are pathetic buck-passers. Players get dogs abuse from crowds. If they want to give a bit back it doesn't bother me. It's exactly the same as the Adebayor situation. And if City insist on putting their most vociferous fans right by the corner flag this sort of thing will happen from time to time.
I think the point within this statement is that 'You knew' what was going to happen. If 'You knew' then it's probably right to believe that the players also knew the situation which brings us back to the 'incitement' issue.

Throwing missiles onto the pitch needs to be addressed but if they aren't given a reason to do it, then it may just not happen.
Just a thought.

In the same way that if a player's family, chequered past and looks aren't used against someone for 90 minutes then it also may not happen.
 
It's hardly surprising,

Martin Samuel is Rooney's (spits) biggest fan-boy in the media idiots bandwagon!!

Other than loving that gross and disgusting fat-boy.

He's one of, if not, the best sport Journalist in the UK...
 
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Let's have this right.

I had no idea that Rooney had celebrated in front of the City fans. If I'm honest I couldn't care less.

But when Rooney was running over to take that corner I said to my mate "You watch, he'll get hit by a missile here". Then I saw him pointing at the floor and said "See?"

Crowds quoting "incitement" are pathetic buck-passers. Players get dogs abuse from crowds. If they want to give a bit back it doesn't bother me. It's exactly the same as the Adebayor situation. And if City insist on putting their most vociferous fans right by the corner flag this sort of thing will happen from time to time.
That is true. But fans are not all like you. There are kids, and stewards who have to handle the aftermath when some fans inevitably react to an away player deliberately taunting them.

It's not just kids who can't control their emotions. Put yourself in that corner, 9 times out of 10, you'd probably just give him some verbals, but you don't know how you'd react - like the lad you ran on the pitch. I expect he's a decent lad who'll probably never ever do anything like that again
it's simple stuff for me. The coin thrower is a dick. The pitch invader is a dick. Rooney is a dick and rio is a total fucking dick. So if some dick throws a coin and it hits another dick I'm not hugely arsed if I'm honest.

The point I'm making is that if either dick makes a song and dance about blaming the other dick, then they are an even bigger dick.
 
The cookie monster said:
Rolee said:
The cookie monster said:
Just been talking about this on another thread
I cant get my head around this he wrote

On Sunday, United celebrated in front of their own fans, who happened to be adjacent to a Manchester City section. There was nothing provocative in what they did, unless winning a contentious derby match late is now reclassified as incitement

Email him the still showing Shrek celebrating in front of the City fans.
Tbh mate i dont care what rooney did he took a load of shit so fair play to him
I just dont get why samuel missed it out of his article

'Fair play to him'! 'He took a load of shit'? Are you drunk? Or were you not at the game on Sunday?

Either way, he incited the crowd after every one of their goals. He does this every time he comes to our place.

No need to throw anything at him but it needs to be said what he does.
 
Mike N said:
The cookie monster said:
Rolee said:
Email him the still showing Shrek celebrating in front of the City fans.
Tbh mate i dont care what rooney did he took a load of shit so fair play to him
I just dont get why samuel missed it out of his article

'Fair play to him'! 'He took a load of shit'? Are you drunk? Or were you not at the game on Sunday?

Either way, he incited the crowd after every one of their goals. He does this every time he comes to our place.

No need to throw anything at him but it needs to be said what he does.

Quite Agree

I remember Ratboy getting warned by the FArce about his conduct at a derby not so long ago. There should be some consistancey, but that word and the FA never seem to go together.
 
sjk2008 said:
The Future's Blue said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Let's have this right.

I had no idea that Rooney had celebrated in front of the City fans. If I'm honest I couldn't care less.

But when Rooney was running over to take that corner I said to my mate "You watch, he'll get hit by a missile here". Then I saw him pointing at the floor and said "See?"

Crowds quoting "incitement" are pathetic buck-passers. Players get dogs abuse from crowds. If they want to give a bit back it doesn't bother me. It's exactly the same as the Adebayor situation. And if City insist on putting their most vociferous fans right by the corner flag this sort of thing will happen from time to time.
I think the point within this statement is that 'You knew' what was going to happen. If 'You knew' then it's probably right to believe that the players also knew the situation which brings us back to the 'incitement' issue.

Throwing missiles onto the pitch needs to be addressed but if they aren't given a reason to do it, then it may just not happen.
Just a thought.

In the same way that if a player's family, chequered past and looks aren't used against someone for 90 minutes then it also may not happen.
Lost me there pal, what's a players looks etc, got to do with it?
Graceyboy said:
Scoring a goal against you, or celebrating a goal against you is NO reason to throw something at them. END OF!

Normal human being rules apply wether you are in a football ground, in a pub, in your own home, anywhere.
I never said there was any reason to do these things, what I'm saying is that players, certainly players like Rooney, know exactly what's going to happen if they goad the crowd, he does it all the time. The problem is that normal minded individuals who have invested so much emotion in a game like this have suddenly gone 'Pop'. Now, Rooney knows exactly what he's doing which leads to events that we seen on Sunday.

If 'We knew', and 'He knew', then why do it and why don't the powers that be, who also 'Know it', do anything about it?

I'd suggest that the likes of Sky don't actually mind, it would be compulsive viewing for some and the media et al will be making a living off the back of it. the vultures have had a good feed this week and they're still nowhere near the bones yet.
 
Mike N said:
The cookie monster said:
Rolee said:
Email him the still showing Shrek celebrating in front of the City fans.
Tbh mate i dont care what rooney did he took a load of shit so fair play to him
I just dont get why samuel missed it out of his article

'Fair play to him'! 'He took a load of shit'? Are you drunk? Or were you not at the game on Sunday?

Either way, he incited the crowd after every one of their goals. He does this every time he comes to our place.

No need to throw anything at him but it needs to be said what he does.
Fair do's maybe not fair play to him,
But he went to the corner flag on the winning goal to goad the city fans who had been launching coins at him,

I just cant believe samuel has missed it out of his article
 
There's no excuse for throwing anything except (non-racist) verbal abuse at opposing players; the best thing would actually be to ignore them them completely if they are celebrating scoring against us. Sadly, that's wishful thinking. I think it would be hilarious if we did the Poznan whenever City conceded.
 
The cookie monster said:
Rolee said:
The cookie monster said:
Just been talking about this on another thread
I cant get my head around this he wrote

On Sunday, United celebrated in front of their own fans, who happened to be adjacent to a Manchester City section. There was nothing provocative in what they did, unless winning a contentious derby match late is now reclassified as incitement

Email him the still showing Shrek celebrating in front of the City fans.

And what about that twat Jones who came running up to the south stand screaming fuck off and putting his fingers to his lips, nothing provoctaive at all there!!??
No wonder a load of missiles where thrown on the pitch at the end, the big dick!
Good job i was sober or i may have been tempted! The always get away with murder them cunts, and now barry gets sanctioned for something Rooney et al do every week??!!!
 

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