MCFC U16's

twosips said:
Well that's it, as talented as they are there are simply too many. Intake numbers are monitored and I think about ten were offered. We took about nine last year too.

Blackshaw was getting football, at u16s level. This is his first in the u18s and he's just had a quiet year as a 1st year scholar so far, as did Bullock, but he's played a lot in his second year (this year)... I'm not sure if Wilson will be kept on, which may see Blackshaw as the first choice LB next year for the u18s, like Bullock has done this year at RB. Sarmiento was actually signed for the EDS too, and he defo cant play for the u18s next season I think so I suspect he'll be promoted to the EDS before long.
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Angelino -> 1st team

Sarmiento -> EDS

Blackshaw -> u18s first choice.

The conveyor belt in action
 
twosips said:
Well that's it, as talented as they are there are simply too many. Intake numbers are monitored and I think about ten were offered. We took about nine last year too.

Blackshaw was getting football, at u16s level. This is his first in the u18s and he's just had a quiet year as a 1st year scholar so far, as did Bullock, but he's played a lot in his second year (this year)... I'm not sure if Wilson will be kept on, which may see Blackshaw as the first choice LB next year for the u18s, like Bullock has done this year at RB. Sarmiento was actually signed for the EDS too, and he defo cant play for the u18s next season I think so I suspect he'll be promoted to the EDS before long.
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Ah I see, I see, seems to make more sense then.

Alternatively, Wilson could go the same route as Blackshaw predominantly second-choice for the first year and then a regular the second year, though again seems a little unfair imo as they only get one year to really prove themselves and, in my opinion, there should be more rotation throughout all the academy squads.

Do you know how the offering/releasing system works by the way? Seems strange to offer as early as December (even heard of other clubs finalising stuff in November!) when it's only been a season and a half for them to prove themselves in the U15s/U16s. Is there any criteria? Seems strange not to take on Lattie, Manuel if those rumours are true. (Though with Latibeaudiere and Francis also centre-backs I'd assume one of those three may struggle for minutes. Can't really see them getting rotated tbh though that seems like the logical option)

Any news on the second years not turned pro too?
 
domalino said:
Angelino -> 1st team

Sarmiento -> EDS

Blackshaw -> u18s first choice.

The conveyor belt in action
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Do we see Duhaney as a left back or a right back? The few times I've seen him at left back I've been very impressed but I think he can play both.
 
Jacob Smith said:
Do we see Duhaney as a left back or a right back? The few times I've seen him at left back I've been very impressed but I think he can play both.
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I think he is technically a right-back, but I think he's better on the left to be honest. It's different and it was interestingly tactically having a fullback cutting inwards.
 
Can anyone ITK shed any light on the current contract wrangles for certain under 16s players? Daily Mail reporting that players are looking to move away following Pep's arrival - it's all bollocks of course - but be interesting to hear from any insiders on what's going on.
 
bugsyblue said:
Can anyone ITK shed any light on the current contract wrangles for certain under 16s players? Daily Mail reporting that players are looking to move away following Pep's arrival - it's all bollocks of course - but be interesting to hear from any insiders on what's going on.
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Tbh mate, read this thread. There is some concern from parents and its not total bollocks unfortunately.
 
twosips said:
Tbh mate, read this thread. There is some concern from parents and its not total bollocks unfortunately.
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If you're ever in the proximity of any of these concerned parents, perhaps talk loudly about how Guardiola brought through 28 youth players in 4 years at Barcelona and they might overhear you.

You can understand why a parent would be concerned, but you would hope the club has everything it needs to convince anyone.

They know better than anyone the investment made in the academy, I'm sure they've seen the videos of Khaldoon talking about youth products in the team, and now (on top of 5 players getting debuts this season) the club has brought in a manager renowned for his use of youth players, and not just use of them, but belief that the process of bringing them through is a necessary one for any club.

Surely that's enough for the club to persuade anyone that the club wants them to succeed here? I don't know, it's obviously a tough decision for anyone.
 
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domalino said:
If you're ever in the proximity of any of these concerned parents, perhaps talk loudly about how Guardiola brought through 28 youth players in 4 years at Barcelona and they might overhear you.
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:)

They read this thread. They all do, obviously. Pep will revolutionise this club...I hand on heart believe that. He wants to build a legacy. People like him love saying 'I made that player great'. It appeals to their egos doesn't it? Pep's exactly like that, hence the constant urge for reinvention, or, in general, signing people like Alaba and Coman who weren't already megastars.

He will 100% pay closer attention to the academy than MP did. Thank god. You'd be mental IMO to not want to be around for what he'd teach you.
 
Do you happen to know which players they are? I hope they all stay but Brahim and Jadon Sancho are vital.
 
itisrising said:
Do you happen to know which players they are? I hope they all stay but Brahim and Jadon Sancho are vital.
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Know a few rumours mate but not gonna put them out here in case im wrong, as they're just kids. Brahim's not an u16 now, already with the u18s. He's going nowhere...don't worry. I'd not expect Sancho to either personally (though he is an u16) given he's already tasted life with the 18s this season and he was a big money signing only just over a year ago.
 
twosips said:
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They read this thread. They all do, obviously. Pep will revolutionise this club...I hand on heart believe that. He wants to build a legacy. People like him love saying 'I made that player great'. It appeals to their egos doesn't it? Pep's exactly like that, hence the constant urge for reinvention, or, in general, signing people like Alaba and Coman who weren't already megastars.

He will 100% pay closer attention to the academy than MP did. Thank god. You'd be mental IMO to not want to be around for what he'd teach you.
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I don't think it's just an ego thing (although i'm sure it's part of it), from some of the quotes in Pep Confidential it sounds like he'd rather coach young players and developing footballers without the bother of the press and all the baggage that comes with players getting millions a year and ego's to deal with.
 
Reckon Tyrese Campbell is probably the biggest name to stall, been a few rumours linking him with a move to Arsenal recently.

Hopefully he stays, quite the striker from what i hear.
 
domalino said:
I don't think it's just an ego thing (although i'm sure it's part of it), from some of the quotes in Pep Confidential it sounds like he'd rather coach young players and developing footballers without the bother of the press and all the baggage that comes with players getting millions a year and ego's to deal with.
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Oh of course! I believe that too...but it defo helps! It's a vastly more interesting challenge and it's something to be genuinely proud of and he's acutely aware of that im sure.
 
Jordan CTID said:
Reckon Tyrese Campbell is probably the biggest name to stall, been a few rumours linking him with a move to Arsenal recently.

Hopefully he stays, quite the striker from what i hear.
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'been a few rumours'? Really? I reckon there was just one 'rumour' repeated ad naseum by people too lazy to write their own 'stories'. I'll repeat my own post from earlier in the thread :-

ColinLee said:
I'm sure that Arsenal would be interested (so would Everton come to that) but the only 'story' came out from the Daily Fail just before we played Arsenal last month (what a coincidence hey?). Every media outlet under the sun seems to have just copied the same 'story' so don't go off quantity if you Google it.

BTW Campbell senior is based in the NW where he runs his own security firm so it's not like Tyrese is living away from his parents.
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ColinLee said:
'been a few rumours'? Really? I reckon there was just one 'rumour' repeated ad naseum by people too lazy to write their own 'stories'. I'll repeat my own post from earlier in the thread :-
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Thing is, its true though sadly, ColinLee. They haven't signed yet, a fair few in fact. I agree with your reasoning, but it isn't total bullshit from the DM....unfortunately.
 
The biggest problem for me is that although Manuel has given a few players debuts he has not given anyone the chance to actually stake a claim from our academy.

Out of interest do we know who the other 9 are(assuming Jadon and Tye are the other 2)
Who have been offered scholarships?
 
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