Media coverage 2018/19

[waspish]

It would be interesting to put (as best as possible), United’s 89 accounts through the FFP rules (PL & uefa) and see how much percentage they failed by. (It can only be percentages, as the money growth in football has been insane since then).

Odd coincidence below

89 united start spending, 3 years later they start to win big.
Ruining football articles: 0
Organic money articles: infinite
Period of dominance: 20 years
Bad for football articles: 0
FFP rules introduced: 0

08 city start spending , 3 years later they start to win big.
Ruining football articles: infinite
Organic money articles: 0
Period of dominance: TBC
Bad for football articles: infinite
FFP rules introduced.... you get the idea

Yep we got done for ffp and getting shit for it since its been introduced lets go back and look at all clubs and if they failed ffp with there old accounts fine them and take the trophies of them! Its only fair.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I'm sure you are aware of the meaning of said terminology, basically hes suggesting that the football club is merely a carrier for the shieks business and the illegality of it and even helps expand it.

Its obviously bollocks and I do wonder where the fuck his view point has been for the last 10 years.

Weird it only surfaces after a fucking record breaking triple, the jealous ****

I thought sportswashing was used to cast a nice big shiny light on something successful they are involved with, to offset/hide less pleasant activities. Basically a huge PR exercise.

 

[JASR]

I think that would need a lot more context to compare - comparative other team spending, the dramatic change in the income landscape in 30 years. Overall, I think you'd need a long time to produce something meaningful.

But surely a simple sum of you can only spend X% of your money, would be straight forward. United spent over 100% of their turnover on transfers (let alone, (player+staff) wages, dividends, policing, gas/leccy etc)

Nb: accounting terms whooosh past me

 

[Shaelumstash]

It would be interesting to put (as best as possible), United’s 89 accounts through the FFP rules (PL & uefa) and see how much percentage they failed by. (It can only be percentages, as the money growth in football has been insane since then).

Odd coincidence below

89 united start spending, 3 years later they start to win big.
Ruining football articles: 0
Organic money articles: infinite
Period of dominance: 20 years
Bad for football articles: 0
FFP rules introduced: 0

08 city start spending , 3 years later they start to win big.
Ruining football articles: infinite
Organic money articles: 0
Period of dominance: TBC
Bad for football articles: infinite
FFP rules introduced.... you get the idea

Absolutely spot on.

 

[Tracking back]

Fair point - he won't flip flop again.

I think he is taking his position on usand won't shift if he is challenging the like of Miguel Whatshisface.,.......

It's funny but there couldn't be a better time for Journalists to go against the flow.

M.C.F.C are by far the most progressive club in world football. You'd think journalists and the broadcasting media would be falling over themselves to get in on the (positive) action.

To be honest I'd be more than happy if we only had a couple of decent journalists fighting our corner. The likes of Oliver Holt and Martin Samuels would do me.

 

[Nightmare Walking]

79 points they got in 1999.

Next.

I thought the United team that got to two consecutive Champs league was the best Prem team till we rocked up, not the 99 treble team.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

But surely a simple sum of you can only spend X% of your money, would be straight forward. United spent over 100% of their turnover on transfers (let alone, (player+staff) wages, dividends, policing, gas/leccy etc)

It could, absolutely. Just setting the parameters by which is it judged is more difficult to get right (to me, again).

The PL and Sky changed the landscape so much, I'm just not sure much can be gained - it'll just confirm something we probably already know as a snapshot. I think you'd probably need the numbers for the other big rivals of the time as well to put time context on it (if everyone overspent, it's less of an issue).

 

[waspish]

It's funny but there couldn't be a better time for Journalists to go against the flow.

M.C.F.C are by far the most progressive club in world football. You'd think journalists and the broadcasting media would be falling over themselves to get in on the (positive) action.

To be honest I'd be more than happy if we only had a couple of decent journalists fighting our corner. The likes of Oliver Holt and Martin Samuels would do me.

We dont generate enough clicks with positive articles just think how much money they would of made from clicks if the scousers won the league they are hurting.

 

[Proy]

I thought sportswashing was used to cast a nice big shiny light on something successful they are involved with, to offset/hide less pleasant activities. Basically a huge PR exercise.

I think there are a couple of ways of looking at it. It’s mostly deflection and sometimes a vehicle to hide illegal activities.

Either way, it’s just a bullshit phrase and is currently another weapon to use against us.

 

[jrb]

All you have to do is read the comments section after a City article. Especially in the Daily Fail.

Bar City fans, every other comment is from Liverpool fans mostly, United fans, and to a lesser extent Arsenal fans. I think they can’t be read anymore. Time is a great healer after what we did to their club.

So, translate that into click bait. More negative stories about City(FFP) will get more clicks than positive stories about City.

 

[Henkeman]

Ray of Man City Fan TV is currently having a twitter spat with Little Miggy and Barry Glendenning. You remember him (via 'The 100 Worst People On Twitter'):

'Barry Glendenning is a man who writes for the Guardian on Sport. He’s mostly known for his appearances on Football Weekly, however, where he’s selected as the comedy counterweight to the European Football Experts and Enganche Enthusiasts that make up the rest of the panel. In theory, a fine idea, but the truth is that his presence has ruined what was once football’s only acceptable podcast (as one Twitter user noted, “Richardson, Steinberg, Auclair and Glendenning. It’s like having a back four of Maldini, Moore, Desailly and Gary Doherty.”)

That’s one side of Baz, but as we keep reminding you, this is the 100 Worst People On Twitter, and Barry likes to relax of an evening with some casual Twitter beef. This is occasionally justified - football writing is different to other writing, because the writers tend to be slightly less privileged, the subject matter is entirely unimportant, and a lot of commenters are blinkered fans - but often not. So we get tedious exchanges of “no, YOU’RE a ****” back and forth with people with 16 followers, partly because Negative Comments On Articles Are The Worst Crime Against Humanity Imaginable, and partly because Glendenning imagines himself as Bill Hicks slapping down the hecklers.

Yes, Glendenning fancies himself as a comedian. We’re all well aware by now that only the most fuck-awful human beings ever consider that as a career choice, and he even gave it a go once. He was pretty awful by all accounts, and while I didn’t see it, I’m surprised the sense of humour that had him cracking along with a “black men have big penises, ha ha ha” riff at a recent football awards show didn’t stand him in good stead with his target audience.

The real issue here, though, is that none of Glendenning’s material has any sort of consistency or logic to it whatsoever. Athletic Bilbao are beating Manchester United? Ha, shows what a two-team league La Liga is! Real Madrid are 18 points clear of the team in 3rd? Ha, shows what an open and competetive league La Liga is! (Irony is one of the foremost subtle literary techniques among the Glendenning oeuvre.)

And if you’re gonna make negativity your schtick (and before you start, we’ve dished out plenty of praise, and you should’ve seen the messages we got after giving a nod to Seth Macfarlane), it’s probably best to ensure you actually do it full-time and to all targets. In reality, every night on Twitter is punctuated with Comedy Baz’s ham-fisted flails in the direction of any woman regardless of age or availability. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen an overweight, ageing football journalist try to flirt, but it has all the grim horror and can’t-look-away amazement as an M25 pile-up.

We’ll finish, as we probably always should, with a short anecdote which perfectly encapsulates the man. A while back, as compliant with Twitter Dickhead Law, yer man posted a photo of some booze on Twitter. What he didn’t realise was that it linked to his flickr account, the previous photo being him, standing, walloper in hand, presumably sent to one of the many girls he talks to. How did he react to the only funny thing he’s ever done? He denied it, deleted the picture, refused to discuss it, and blocked anyone who dared mention it. There’s your sense of humour. He’s like a fat Irish version of Graham Linehan.'

Quoted for amazement value.

 

[The blue phantom]

All you have to do is read the comments section after a City article. Especially in the Daily Fail.

Bar City fans, every other comment is from Liverpool fans mostly, United fans, and to a lesser extent Arsenal fans. I think they can’t be read anymore. Time is a great healer after what we did to their club.

So, translate that into click bait. More negative stories about City(FFP) will get more clicks than positive stories about City.

Said the same thing this morning, unfortunately negative stories about us will get shit more clicks than pictures of our players with trophies, by a distance too.

Thats just how it rolls.

 

[jrb]

You add Journalists to that as well. They are much worse.

Independent.

The partisan TV pundits are taking over football - but does it matter?
Today’s product takes elements of the short-lived FanZone option with ex-players failing to conceal their emotions


This column has heard about one pundit, an ex-Manchester City player, who is being pressured by the City hierarchy to argue the club’s case more forcefully in the media. And in recent years, City’s lack of media “advocates” has been a long-running bone of contention among the club’s fans, as well as perhaps the sole explanation for Michael Brown’s surprisingly buoyant television career.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ary-lineker-sky-sports-bt-sport-a8918826.html

 

[cleavers]

You add Journalists to that as well. They are much worse.

Independent.

The partisan TV pundits are taking over football - but does it matter?
Today’s product takes elements of the short-lived FanZone option with ex-players failing to conceal their emotions


This column has heard about one pundit, an ex-Manchester City player, who is being pressured by the City hierarchy to argue the club’s case more forcefully in the media. And in recent years, City’s lack of media “advocates” has been a long-running bone of contention among the club’s fans, as well as perhaps the sole explanation for Michael Brown’s surprisingly buoyant television career.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ary-lineker-sky-sports-bt-sport-a8918826.html

Sorry not clicking it, couldn't give a shite, I think I've seen MB once or twice, the rest in the headline are on every f**king day.

 

[jrb]

Sorry not clicking it, couldn't give a shite, I think I've seen MB once or twice, the rest in the headline are on every f**king day.

No probs.

 

[Metalartin]

Just been thinking of a great song by The Stone Roses;

Kiss me where the Sun don't shine
The past was yours but the futures mine
You're all out of time

Do we sing that at City? Seems such an obvious candidate for a chant in response to all the bollocks.

 

[kaz7]

Vinny has known Khaldoon for 11 yrs,if he says he is a good man then that is good enough for me
The media are at rock bottom if they are going after vinny
Swivel ****s

 

[cleavers]

Vinny has known Khaldoon for 11 yrs,if he says he is a good man then that is good enough for me
The media are at rock bottom if they are going after vinny
Swivel ****s

They're at rock bottom going after Khaldoon too.

 

[pudge]

When's Khaldoon's interview due out?

I hope it's an unedited hour long video of him laughing his bollocks off swimming in a pile of money like Scrooge McDuck.

 

[kaz7]

They're at rock bottom going after Khaldoon too.

This last week i have been shocked at how vicious they have turned,they are not really onside at the best of times and i expected a backlash if we won the title and not the dippers but wow,just wow