Media coverage 2018/19

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All we need now is for the opening credits for next season's Match of the Day to finish with Liverpool lifting the European Cup!
The City premier league trophy lifting at the end of the MOTD opening credits sequence will be CGI’d from blue to red...

I bet the opening credits sequence will start with a Salad goal, and as many as possible of the ‘great’ goals against City, though they’ll be limited for choice.
Also none against Liverpool or united.
 
There's no difference between the Sissoko handball in the final and the Llorente handball. If the ball doesn't hit Llorente's elbow it's probably not bouncing down on his thigh and into the net. If it doesn't hit his elbow, the ball is hitting him upper thigh and would probably fall straight into the hands of Ederson.
The contact made from the elbow definitely helped the ball go into the net, therefore by the new rules it surely has to be given as a handball?

Absolutely. Under the new rules it would be disallowed. They haven't come in yet.
 
Pep was one of the biggest proponents of VAR, I think by the end of the coming season he may have a few things to say about it that are not so positive.

I would think that Pep had the same view of VAR as we had - that it would be used sensibly, transparently and not be a vehicle for manipulating an outcome. From what I have seen so far in WCs, CLs etc, it clearly is causing more problems than it is solving, and the cynic in me doesn't swallow the shite about 'honest mistakes'! Teams have been screwed over, others benefitted, and I suspect that arrangement will continue until Liverpool win a PL title!
 
Absolutely. Under the new rules it would be disallowed. They haven't come in yet.

As I understand it, the new rules were in force last season in the CL from the quarter final stage, even though they were not be common currency until this month. So Llorente should not have been able to score off his arm, elbow, or whatever was sticking out of his shoulder!
 
My point is what if it hadn't been offside and someone had bump Erikson so he did the dodgy back pass or some infringement before that, who decides how far back we look until a decision is made about a goal ?. In one match they may check an incident and in another game overlook a very similar incident. Unless certain rules are set in stone about this injustices will still occur.

It's a fair point certainly. The Nations Cup last week had a penalty decision cancelled to give a penalty at the other end from beforehand - in that instance, the ball went the length of the field, so how far they can (and will) go back is anybody's guess.

Interestingly, the 'clear and obvious' mantra isn't the whole story in VAR protocol. It's to assist in circumstances of

‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to:
a. Goal/no goal
b. Penalty/no penalty
c. Direct red card (not second yellow card/caution)
d. Mistaken identity

Madly, in that match last week, if the penalty had been given for handball on the goalline (and a red card), the defender would still have been sent off (as far as I can tell)
 
I still think VAR will get there eventually. I just hope it's not always City getting the short end of a the stick as they figure it out.
 
As I understand it, the new rules were in force last season in the CL from the quarter final stage, even though they were not be common currency until this month. So Llorente should not have been able to score off his arm, elbow, or whatever was sticking out of his shoulder!

My understanding is that it was for defensive handball (Rose vs City, Otamendi vs Schalke, the Utd/PSG match). but not for attacking handball.

The only reference I've seen is something Rossetti said before the new laws were finalised, and make no mention of attacking handball. If there is anything about it, I've not seen it. I think the new laws on "not scoring off an arm" are new additions.

What I'm expecting is much kicking the ball at arms and screaming at the ref. I think that's what Mane did in the CL final, because that's how it's now reffed.

(and, er, I've helped to drag the media thread into VAR thread. oops).
 
I still think VAR will get there eventually. I just hope it's not always City getting the short end of a the stick as they figure it out.

It will never get there. As I posted in VAR thread I was talking to a top referee last week and the feeling amongst refs was they are shiting it they haven't a clue
 
Might have been said somewhere in the previous 1276 pages but the M.E.N. website always has Manchester U****d news before City's and the rags are listed first in spite of being after City both alphabetically and in other ways.
 
Might have been said somewhere in the previous 1276 pages but the M.E.N. website always has Manchester U****d news before City's and the rags are listed first in spite of being after City both alphabetically and in other ways.


They are ahead of city in number of Asian Pacific based twats that pretend to support them which is the key metric used by the MEN in terms of sort order.
 
I have just complained to the BBC online.
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?lang=en&reset=&uid=640422838#anchor
I suggest other fans could do also. If they get complaints someone, somewhere might pay attention sometime?
"Premier League bias in reporting of new Premier League fixtures.
Photograph of Liverpool holding CL trophy is not relevant to the Premier League which the article is about. Article leads with Liverpool rather than the PL Champions Manchester City. Throughout last season the BBC sport coverage was completely biased in favour of Liverpool and so with a new season the same bias continues. Acknowledge the current PL champions when reporting on a PL story and report fairly and even handedly on the clubs.
If this had been an article on the Champions League a photo of Liverpool and leading with their fixtures would have been appropriate, but it's not.
The continued bias of the sports section in the BBC in favour of Liverpool and Manchester United is blatant and constant. Please give independent neutral coverage as the BBC charter."


Christ. I think a lot of people need to take a step back a minute for the sake of their own sanity.

There's 19 other teams in the Premier League. Would say a Bournemouth fan look at the BBC website and claim bias when he or she doesn't see a picture of a Bournemouth player accompanying the announcement of the new fixtures? Do the promoted sides have a claim to be included? City do not have divine rights to being the only team that can be pictured. Although we are champions there are fans of other clubs to consider.

As it happens, the two times I have viewed the fixtures on the BBC app today they have been accompanied by a picture of Stones lifting the trophy and then the whole City team. People need to take a step back and have a bit more clarity to their thinking.
 
Christ. I think a lot of people need to take a step back a minute for the sake of their own sanity.

There's 19 other teams in the Premier League. Would say a Bournemouth fan look at the BBC website and claim bias when he or she doesn't see a picture of a Bournemouth player accompanying the announcement of the new fixtures? Do the promoted sides have a claim to be included? City do not have divine rights to being the only team that can be pictured. Although we are champions there are fans of other clubs to consider.

As it happens, the two times I have viewed the fixtures on the BBC app today they have been accompanied by a picture of Stones lifting the trophy and then the whole City team. People need to take a step back and have a bit more clarity to their thinking.

Shhh, you will kill the thread -:)
 
Might have been said somewhere in the previous 1276 pages but the M.E.N. website always has Manchester U****d news before City's and the rags are listed first in spite of being after City both alphabetically and in other ways.

I've just visited the MEN website here https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

At the top of the page there are options for Man Utd and Man City. Just click on the Man City one and you won't have to see anything to do with united.
 
Christ. I think a lot of people need to take a step back a minute for the sake of their own sanity.

There's 19 other teams in the Premier League. Would say a Bournemouth fan look at the BBC website and claim bias when he or she doesn't see a picture of a Bournemouth player accompanying the announcement of the new fixtures? Do the promoted sides have a claim to be included? City do not have divine rights to being the only team that can be pictured. Although we are champions there are fans of other clubs to consider.

As it happens, the two times I have viewed the fixtures on the BBC app today they have been accompanied by a picture of Stones lifting the trophy and then the whole City team. People need to take a step back and have a bit more clarity to their thinking.
Yep.

Independent - link with team photo and Komps lifting the cup
Telegraph - link with team photo and Komps lifting the cup
Mirror - link with image 50% City 25% LIverpool 25% Chelsea
Guardian - picture in link now gone but headline "united open at home to chelsea"
Mail - picture in link with big picture United & Chelsea and then equal size City, Arsenal, Spurs & LIverpool. Headline UNited v Chelsea, City then Liverpool
Times - lead with Liverpool and piccy but link to full fixtures a big blue band and picture of Aguero
 
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