When you look back at the edge, the incite, the probing questions, the analysis, the summing up - when you watch the old matches - Coleman, Moore, Hill period - you actually think christ, weren't people more articulate and wow did they really ask that? You maybe didn't think it at the time, probably complained then too. But quite how it's regressed to this fayre is a shocking reflection. Saint and G was probably the start of the amoebaing down - but even they were Frost and Ludovic Kennedy, comperd the the present pillocks.