Media Discussion - 2023/24

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jrb said:
It's amazing how many red shirt journalists are sideing with Everton and Forest by portraying City as the real guilty club.
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It shouldn't really be a surprise. My thoughts are they know what's coming. Put as much shit on us as they can as when the case is thrown out , the red tops are going to get their hour in the kangaroo court's.
 
argyle said:
The comment pages I've seen posted on twitter have been genuinely hilarious.

Never seen so much incorrect nonsense being confidently expressed.
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At some point I realised that this has nothing to do with facts and figures and objectively whether someone broke rules.

It’s entirely moralistic. City deserve punishment, Everton and Forest don’t, everyone is corrupt, if they broke the rules then the rules aren’t fair.

You don’t need to know what’s actually happened, or silly details like rules and laws to post about it or even get paid to talk about it on tv or radio.

I think it’s all just mirroring politics, the different parties are all just stand in characters… but that’s a post for another forum.
 
I believe City did rather well at the " FIFA BEST AWARDS " not that you'd know it from Media coverage.
The only headline on the BBC Football News ( courtesy of Simon Stone ) - " Date has been set for hearing into Man City Charges " With some difficulty I did manage to locate a BBC article referencing the FIFA awards : the headline being that a certain Mary Earps had been crowned "the World's best goalkeeper - for the second year running ! " The last paragraph of the article, mentioned - almost in passing - that Pep had won the best manager award - and ended with "there were six Manchester City players named in the ( World ) men's team of the year "
I guess this is what is described as "damning with faint praise"
Imagine the headlines if ManUre had been in City's place. My attention was drawn to one of those "where are they now? " articles which had appeared , 10 years ago, in what seems to be a distinctly ManUreCentric site called "Planet Football". The article listed the "wonderkids" who were the future of World Football. They named SEVEN Man Utd "wonderkids"- please don't laugh :
Andreas Pereira - 75 appearances over 10 Years - On to Fulham for £8M
Adnan Januzaj - Yes ! -him !- the heir to Messi ! 63 apps over 6 years. On to Real Sociedad for £7M
Jesse Lingard - FFS !.. 232 apps over 14 years. FT to Forest
Angelo Henriquez - 7 apps over 4 yrs - FT out.
Nick Powell - £6M in from Crewe. 9 apps over 4 years . FT to Wigan
Wilfred Zaha £10M from Crys Pal. A remarkable 4 apps over 3 years. £3M return to CP
James Wilson - 20 apps over 4 years. FT to Aberdeen.

" Wonderkids" indeed !! The Old Trafford Ministry of Truth was working overtime in 2014.
 
mac said:
jrb said:
It's amazing how many red shirt journalists are sideing with Everton and Forest by portraying City as the real guilty club.
Yep


It shouldn't really be a surprise. My thoughts are they know what's coming. Put as much shit on us as they can as when the case is thrown out , the red tops are going to get their hour in the kangaroo court's.
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I don’t think we can win either way now. We are guilty in the eyes of all football fans regardless of the outcome. The PL and media has done enough damage to ensure this.
 
mac said:
My nephew and myself were in France before crimbo. We saw a local bloke with a City shirt on, . We went up to the local ski resort into a sport bar and the owner was all to happy to put on City for us . In our ridiculous French we said we are back over in Feb for the month. So he was happy. Much to our delight he bought us a free pint each. Driving home we get pulled by the armed police. Van gets sniffer dog searched but the 2 coppers that was stood with my nephew having a good crack about City. No fucker cares they only see the great players we have the way we play football, Pep and the onunce of Charlie I had up my arse. . Oh how I laughed spending Christmas with Papillion.
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Exactly. Our name isn't tarnished in the eyes of players/managers that we might want to sign, advertisers, investors and the young kids that are growing up watching us play fantastic football.
The only people that care are irrelevant cunts.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I don’t think we can win either way now. We are guilty in the eyes of all football fans regardless of the outcome. The PL and media has done enough damage to ensure this.
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I’m sure there are many shades of opinion on this amongst City supporters, but I honestly don’t care about that mate. I wouldn’t actually bother about a relegation, in some ways.
But I would be royally pissed off if they wiped our titles from the record books though.
 
domalino said:
At some point I realised that this has nothing to do with facts and figures and objectively whether someone broke rules.

It’s entirely moralistic. City deserve punishment, Everton and Forest don’t, everyone is corrupt, if they broke the rules then the rules aren’t fair.

You don’t need to know what’s actually happened, or silly details like rules and laws to post about it or even get paid to talk about it on tv or radio.

I think it’s all just mirroring politics, the different parties are all just stand in characters… but that’s a post for another forum.
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It's more football fans being football fans.

Every team has a large section of fans who are absolutely convinced that they are targeted by referees. I mentioned on here once that tons of Liverpool and United fans also go on about an organised PGMOL campaign to stop them succeeding, and the fabulous response was, "typical rags/dippers - complaining, when we all know it's us that's actually being targeted".

That's all most of this is - fans believing what they want to because it benefits their team. Why would they ever listen to a City fan explaining anything, when they've heard a thousand of their own supporters agreeing that City were absolutely found guilty at CAS nothing could be done because it was time barred.
 
34yearsandstillgoingstrong said:
I believe City did rather well at the " FIFA BEST AWARDS " not that you'd know it from Media coverage.
The only headline on the BBC Football News ( courtesy of Simon Stone ) - " Date has been set for hearing into Man City Charges " With some difficulty I did manage to locate a BBC article referencing the FIFA awards : the headline being that a certain Mary Earps had been crowned "the World's best goalkeeper - for the second year running ! " The last paragraph of the article, mentioned - almost in passing - that Pep had won the best manager award - and ended with "there were six Manchester City players named in the ( World ) men's team of the year "
I guess this is what is described as "damning with faint praise"
Imagine the headlines if ManUre had been in City's place. My attention was drawn to one of those "where are they now? " articles which had appeared , 10 years ago, in what seems to be a distinctly ManUreCentric site called "Planet Football". The article listed the "wonderkids" who were the future of World Football. They named SEVEN Man Utd "wonderkids"- please don't laugh :
Andreas Pereira - 75 appearances over 10 Years - On to Fulham for £8M
Adnan Januzaj - Yes ! -him !- the heir to Messi ! 63 apps over 6 years. On to Real Sociedad for £7M
Jesse Lingard - FFS !.. 232 apps over 14 years. FT to Forest
Angelo Henriquez - 7 apps over 4 yrs - FT out.
Nick Powell - £6M in from Crewe. 9 apps over 4 years . FT to Wigan
Wilfred Zaha £10M from Crys Pal. A remarkable 4 apps over 3 years. £3M return to CP
James Wilson - 20 apps over 4 years. FT to Aberdeen.

" Wonderkids" indeed !! The Old Trafford Ministry of Truth was working overtime in 2014.
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I miss Bebe TBH.
 
If Khaldoon is a man of his word he will go after the People, organizations, and clubs that have caused this.

After City win the case, it is not the time to make peace once again like we did with Ceferin and UEFA, it is the time to go after Masters, the PL, and if City have the fight and the stomach, we've certainly got the money, to go after the Red shirt club owners, who have been trying to destroy City for the last 16 years since Sheikh Mansour bought City.
 
mancboy said:
At this point they could charge us with the disappearance of jimmy hoffa, the assassination of jfk, the shootings of jr and mr burns, the theft of shergar, the great train robbery and the kidnapping of lord lucan and these fucking morons would still relate it back to ffp and psr.

The state of journalism and the lack of research and genuine information they gather is at an all time low in this country, bbc news is a better funded youtube channel and the print media is an echo chamber for morons.
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You forgot making Magnier sell United to the glazers because of the rock -:)
 
domalino said:
The anti-PL agenda is really bizarre.

I have no particular love for them, people on here understandably dislike them because of the FFP dispute.

There’s really no reason for your average fan to hate the PL. people will reply to this with a laundry list of things and I’m confident 99% of them will be things Masters has no power to change, or explicitly isn’t allowed one.

Today I’ve seen people angry at masters for

- The process being too slow.
- the process being too fast.
- The process not being specific enough, even though it was the clubs not PL management who made that decision.
- Colluding with City to quash the 115 charges.
-Colluding with “reds” to create the 115 charges.
- FFP existing (brought in by the clubs 5 years before Masters joined)
- FFP unravelling
- Enforcing rules
- Not enforcing rules
- Commenting on a confidential arbitration.
- Not being allowed to speak about the same confidential arbitration.
- VAR (literally nothing to do with him)
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jrb said:
If Khaldoon is a man of his word he will go after the People, organizations, and clubs that have caused this.

After City win the case, it is not the time to make peace once again like we did with Ceferin and UEFA, it is the time to go after Masters, the PL, and if City have the fight and the stomach, we've certainly got the money, to go after the Red shirt club owners, who have been trying to destroy City for the last 16 years since Sheikh Mansour bought City.
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Aren't we doing damage to them on an almost daily basis?
 
domalino said:
The anti-PL agenda is really bizarre.

I have no particular love for them, people on here understandably dislike them because of the FFP dispute.

There’s really no reason for your average fan to hate the PL. people will reply to this with a laundry list of things and I’m confident 99% of them will be things Masters has no power to change, or explicitly isn’t allowed one.

Today I’ve seen people angry at masters for

- The process being too slow.
- the process being too fast.
- The process not being specific enough, even though it was the clubs not PL management who made that decision.
- Colluding with City to quash the 115 charges.
-Colluding with “reds” to create the 115 charges.
- FFP existing (brought in by the clubs 5 years before Masters joined)
- FFP unravelling
- Enforcing rules
- Not enforcing rules
- Commenting on a confidential arbitration.
- Not being allowed to speak about the same confidential arbitration.
- VAR (literally nothing to do with him)
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Sounds like the league is way out of its depth. Questions will be asked depending on what side of the fence you sit on. The premier should be trying to protect all its clubs not just a few. Their original position is dishonest and from that point they have failed.
 
if we are found innocent there is a question of what all these charges and the period they took to decide on them caused in terms of defamation.
one could argue that there were many big sponsorship deals that did not happen despite the on field successes due to them being worried we might be guilty which seems to be the media agenda anyway.
 
One of colleagues is a Dipper fan and his daughter is now playing for Southampton girls so has an affinity to both. When he asked her what shirt she wanted for Christmas, she only went and done it, replying that there was only one shirt that she wanted, and that was City’s with Haaland on the back.

Things are definitely changing.
 
Damanino said:
if we are found innocent there is a question of what all these charges and the period they took to decide on them caused in terms of defamation.
one could argue that there were many big sponsorship deals that did not happen despite the on field successes due to them being worried we might be guilty which seems to be the media agenda anyway.
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One could, but one won't.
 
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