Media Thread - 2021/22

[blue b4 the moon]

By rights now, media criticism should focus on the management of Tommy Tuchel. Not since Kevin Keegan have I seen a top flight manager lose it in the manner that Tuchel has in recent weeks. His constant complaint about the conditions that Chelsea face with Covid and the pressure of the fixture schedule and injury are to be perceived as a public display of weakness. The game is not just about tactics Tommy, it's also about mental strength and you cracked, and with it your team. Terminal? No. But you cost your side points, and it is the first chink I have seen in his armour. Chelsea's troubles though are not interesting for a media whose sole focus is selling news. Chelsea do not sell news.

Tuchel has form for blowing up...he's actually the short term interim manager that the rags should have gone for, I'm sure like 99% of the world he's a boyhood rag too.

 

[bluealf]

By rights now, media criticism should focus on the management of Tommy Tuchel. Not since Kevin Keegan have I seen a top flight manager lose it in the manner that Tuchel has in recent weeks. His constant complaint about the conditions that Chelsea face with Covid and the pressure of the fixture schedule and injury are to be perceived as a public display of weakness. The game is not just about tactics Tommy, it's also about mental strength and you cracked, and with it your team. Terminal? No. But you cost your side points, and it is the first chink I have seen in his armour. Chelsea's troubles though are not interesting for a media whose sole focus is selling news. Chelsea do not sell news.

He maybe thinks he is taking a leaf out of klipperty's book and coming across as an even bigger whinging ****.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Let's give Delooney some credit for once. Even though City are eating him up from inside, he's still not prepared to leave it, the obsessed, delusional, tw@t!

It's Chelsea's turn.

Migs just wants it to go back to how it used to be, United, Liverpool, and Arsenal, the Red Shirt Cartel, dominating Football and winning every trophy in England.

Deloony is a massive bellend and hypocrite. He hates us with a passion.

He bangs on about human rights but I guarantee he'll have all ready sorted his travel and accommodation for Qatar next November

 

[dickie davies]

Deloony is a massive bellend and hypocrite. He hates us with a passion.

He bangs on about human rights but I guarantee he'll have all ready sorted his travel and accommodation for Qatar next November

Yeah, but whilst he's there he'll show his disgust at the Qatari regime by not eating or drinking anything that's provided for free ...... or will he!

 

[petrusha]

No one wants a competitive league, they just want their team to be what city are. Anyone saying anything else is just lying.

No-one cried the league was over last year when Liverpool won 7-0 and went 5pts ahead last year, no one cried about the un-competitiveness of the league when Liverpool won by a country mile a couple years ago, no one cried about it when Liverpool were 7pts ahead of us in January 2019 and I certainly didn't hear a peep about it when Chelsea went on a 13 win streak the last time they won the league.

I fully agree with this. The issue is simply with who's in the ascendency, as is amply evidenced by the hypocrisy shown in the media by the differing reactions among journalists and pundits between City going on a run of wins to open up a gap now and the instances you quote above.

Stepping further into the past, cast your mind back to the period when our delightful out-of-town neighbours were winning 13 league titles out of 20 between the first PL season and Ferguson's departure. Then, there were a few lone voices in the wilderness lamenting that no one could compete with the rags and their dominance was a bad thing. But the default media response curtly dismissed these assertions.

No, then the line to take was that the top team was setting new standards and it was up to the rest to improve so they could keep up. What's that, you say? Until Abramovich pitched up in the Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, there was a vast disparity in resources between the leading club and even the remaining top four contenders? Despite laughably embroidering comparable claims over the financial aspect today, the media cheerleaders studiously ignored differences in spending power back then. Move swiftly along, they said. Nothing to see here.

That financial chasm between one club and the rest simply doesn't exist now. You wouldn't know it from the coverage, but these days the rags match us for spending and the scouse cult pay out vast wages, both of them equalling us for revenues or bettering ours. Meanwhile Chelsea run their affairs in a way that allows them to splash out on both hefty fees and stratospheric salaries. All of this is airbrushed from the bulk of today's football discourse.

Then there's this bullshit about squad size. I can recall no one ever complaining that United's pre-eminent wealth allowed them to carry more quality in depth than any of their rivals, yet so many of today's propagandists moan like fuck about our "bigger squad" now. This is in spite of the fact that we've actually named a smaller PL squad than any of our rivals and have just sold one member of that reduced cohort to Barca. We don't have a striker or a specialist left-back, and our defensive midfield cover is on his last legs.

We face a farrago of lies. half-truths, distortions and omissions. Regrettably, this seems to be the way of the world with the modern media in so many spheres, not just football. I can't help but think, however, that the English football media got there first when it comes to Trumpian falsehoods and a blatant, contemptuous disregard for fair or accurate reporting. But they're worse than ever now - old Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

 

[j.cbluelongsight]

And then some. He’s also dangerous to the extent he cultivates this civilised, cerebral, ‘above the fray’ demeanour, whilst pushing an agenda whenever he can - and being given a 2 hour slot on a national radio station most Monday evenings.

On a different note, pleased to hear Carlton Palmer talking some sense on Talksport tonight.

Talksport has actually been decent with all the main folk on holidays. Carlton, Gordon smart were a good listen yesterday

 

[Saddleworth2]

I fully agree with this. The issue is simply with who's in the ascendency, as is amply evidenced by the hypocrisy shown in the media by the differing reactions among journalists and pundits between City going on a run of wins to open up a gap now and the instances you quote above.

Stepping further into the past, cast your mind back to the period when our delightful out-of-town neighbours were winning 13 league titles out of 20 between the first PL season and Ferguson's departure. Then, there were a few lone voices in the wilderness lamenting that no one could compete with the rags and their dominance was a bad thing. But the default media response curtly dismissed these assertions.

No, then the line to take was that the top team was setting new standards and it was up to the rest to improve so they could keep up. What's that, you say? Until Abramovich pitched up in the Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, there was a vast disparity in resources between the leading club and even the remaining top four contenders? Despite laughably embroidering comparable claims over the financial aspect today, the media cheerleaders studiously ignored differences in spending power back then. Move swiftly along, they said. Nothing to see here.

That financial chasm between one club and the rest simply doesn't exist now. You wouldn't know it from the coverage, but these days the rags match us for spending and the scouse cult pay out vast wages, both of them equalling us for revenues or bettering ours. Meanwhile Chelsea run their affairs in a way that allows them to splash out on both hefty fees and stratospheric salaries. All of this is airbrushed from the bulk of today's football discourse.

Then there's this bullshit about squad size. I can recall no one ever complaining that United's pre-eminent wealth allowed them to carry more quality in depth than any of their rivals, yet so many of today's propagandists moan like fuck about our "bigger squad" now. This is in spite of the fact that we've actually named a smaller PL squad than any of our rivals and have just sold one member of that reduced cohort to Barca. We don't have a striker or a specialist left-back, and our defensive midfield cover is on his last legs.

We face a farrago of lies. half-truths, distortions and omissions. Regrettably, this seems to be the way of the world with the modern media in so many spheres, not just football. I can't help but think, however, that the English football media got there first when it comes to Trumpian falsehoods and a blatant, contemptuous disregard for fair or accurate reporting. But they're worse than ever now - old Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

The commentary from Amazon Prime was particularly bad yesterday. McCoist was banging on about our squad depth when we have two goalkeepers and a good number of our academy sitting on the bench. They are given a script to follow and no amount of facts will divert them. Logan concentrated on our squad cost while super Ally featured its depth. Stealing a living.

 

[j.cbluelongsight]

Me too, less because of the sleight on us as such, although it is absolutely that too, but more it demeans just how much of a genius Guardiola is. I’m absolutely sure we’ll continue to be successful once he’s gone, but nowhere near to the same extent of dominance that we have now.

We’re watching a genius at work. It’s not a coincidence that he manages the best team in Spain, they win the World Cup. He manages the best team in Germany, they win the World Cup. He manages the best team in England, we should win one of the World Cup or the Euros but then we have Southgate…;)

We had a title race with Liverpool which was one of the greatest that there’s ever been with both teams getting points totals that were frankly obscene. We’ve got a strength in depth in management in the PL now that’s stronger than I think there’s ever been. We’ve got the PL selling it’s TV rights for record numbers. How any of that isn’t considered healthy, fuck knows…

Yeah but could he do it at Norwich?

 

[urban genie]

Loving this whole twitter conversation from all the journos who hate us on top





Let the bitterness wash over them and drown them in their own fuckwittery

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Good digging there.
Lol, so he loves our food, but still criticises us as a club and our owners (if not our team), on a regular basis!

Long interview with him on the New York Times "Daily" podcast on the 23rd April this year about the Super League.
It was the first time I heard him physically say he is a Liverpool fan.

Transcript here:

The Super League That Wasn’t (Published 2021)

What the spectacular fall of a breakaway tournament for European soccer says about the future of the world’s biggest sport.

www.nytimes.com

On Liverpool fandom:

Rory Smith
Yeah, and I guess that in a logical sense, if you kind of conceive of soccer as an entertainment business, the Champions League would be the one that you would care about the most. But that doesn’t necessarily hold true because fans are incredibly attached to their domestic leagues. You’re talking about competitions that have, in the case of England, 130 years of history, that date back beyond people’s grandparents and great grandparents to another generation still. I’m a Liverpool fan. I was cursed to be a Liverpool fan by my family, who, as I was growing up, made it very clear that I have literally no choice about it. And the key thing is that fans really feel their team is part of them.

That short section sums him up. His father is a Leicester fan FFS.

I like what he has to say on many things but he really is the worst when his Liverpool playbook comes into play with his anti-City bollocks. Slime ball.