Media thread 2022/23

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Stickwell said:
I can't take anyone seriously that complains about the commentary being biased against us

When we play a foreign team in the Champions League, the commentators are basically cheering us on, and rightly so. Last night was no different

On the other hand, the pre-match stuff was all Bayern and Hargreaves gave them too much credit after the game as well
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Was it your first time watching last night? Fucking embarrassing post.
 
Stickwell said:
I can't take anyone seriously that complains about the commentary being biased against us

When we play a foreign team in the Champions League, the commentators are basically cheering us on, and rightly so. Last night was no different

On the other hand, the pre-match stuff was all Bayern and Hargreaves gave them too much credit after the game as well
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Have you already forgotten Macmanaman in Madrid?
 
cheekybids said:
I see Miggy is doing a Sam Lee & we’ve just misunderstood his article. You’ve got to feel for these professional writers, it can’t be easy, it’s not as if it’s not the sole purpose of their trade.

Anyway apparently the chasm was based on football ability & not financial & he didn’t even realise he’d written “financial disparity.”

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threadkiller said:
Respectfully, I'm not! Amortisation is how companies, including football clubs, record spending on assets. If we sign a player for £50 mil, on a 5 Yr contract, and then sell that player 2 years later for £40 mil, how is that recorded? For financial accounting/reporting, including ffp this would go down as a £10m profit. Net spend sees it as a £10m loss!
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What you say about accounting is correct, but gross and net spend are not about that. They are there as a clue to a clubs overall transfer policy and behaviour. Thus when we had more coming in than going out last year, the press insisted on calling it a transfer profit. I pointed out then that it was a cash surplus, not profit. As I said elsewhere, if you want to go thru every clubs accounts to discover the true position, you are welcome. Meanwhile I will take Transfermkt’s numbers (however inaccurate) at face value as a rough guide to behaviour.
Example: I have never looked at Chelsea’s accounts, but I know from transfermkt‘s numbers that they had a policy, when it was allowed, of signing up swathes of youngsters and, lending them out, and finally selling at the most opportune moment.
One Italian club a few years ago (I forget which, Chiesa?) had 87 youngsters out on loan at one time. Only close scrutiny of their accounts would have revealed that, but page 2 of their entry in Transfermkt made it very clear at a glance as they sold them off.
I spent a lifetime studying markets and the players therein and of course the accounts were the most important piece of hard data. But the clue was often in the soft data, for example visiting a store and talking casually to staff and gauging their training level. ( I forecast the troubles of M&S this way).
Accounts are hard data (real world), net spend is soft (analytical).
Sorry, I’ve wittered on far too long, but I will not cast aside net spend lightly — the advantage of not being an accountant.
 
KS55 said:
What you say about accounting is correct, but gross and net spend are not about that. They are there as a clue to a clubs overall transfer policy and behaviour. Thus when we had more coming in than going out last year, the press insisted on calling it a transfer profit. I pointed out then that it was a cash surplus, not profit. As I said elsewhere, if you want to go thru every clubs accounts to discover the true position, you are welcome. Meanwhile I will take Transfermkt’s numbers (however inaccurate) at face value as a rough guide to behaviour.
Example: I have never looked at Chelsea’s accounts, but I know from transfermkt‘s numbers that they had a policy, when it was allowed, of signing up swathes of youngsters and, lending them out, and finally selling at the most opportune moment.
One Italian club a few years ago (I forget which, Chiesa?) had 87 youngsters out on loan at one time. Only close scrutiny of their accounts would have revealed that, but page 2 of their entry in Transfermkt made it very clear at a glance as they sold them off.
I spent a lifetime studying markets and the players therein and of course the accounts were the most important piece of hard data. But the clue was often in the soft data, for example visiting a store and talking casually to staff and gauging their training level. ( I forecast the troubles of M&S this way).
Accounts are hard data (real world), net spend is soft (analytical).
Sorry, I’ve wittered on far too long, but I will not cast aside net spend lightly — the advantage of not being an accountant.
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OK then, we'll have to agree to disagree!
 
Stickwell said:
I can't take anyone seriously that complains about the commentary being biased against us

When we play a foreign team in the Champions League, the commentators are basically cheering us on, and rightly so. Last night was no different

On the other hand, the pre-match stuff was all Bayern and Hargreaves gave them too much credit after the game as well
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Yeah the commentary was fine only bug bear for me and goes for most games, they feel they have to talk none stop the whole game!
 
The media (like all places of work) is full of 25-45 year olds as that is the dominant working age. That generation grew up in the 80s-90s.
An era dominated by … Liverpool and United (with a good Arsenal).

Its no wonder they dont like city. Its bias because they remember fondly on the red teams from when they were kids, whether they can see it or not. Its natural

You can see it playing out generationally. Over the last few years youre starting to see a greater level of positive chelsea reporting, as the kids that grew up watching 00s football hit the place of work.

I know so many people with no real football allegiances with kids (mostly below 10) who have chosen city (glory hunting twats!). They will be the dominant working generation in 15-20 years.

It will gradually improve but when we look back at this time in 15-20 years I fully expect a complete mood change In regards our relationship with media and how we are written about.

Until then, I’m going to enjoy the immense volumes of piss boiling we continue to deliver.
 
Len Rum said:
Luvin' today's media narrative of big bad rich City vs little old Bayern.
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They are sticking to their script & highlighting the establishments agenda against MCFC.
The UK media showing a preference to a German team is a new low even for them though - absolute fucking wankers.
We seem to have got under their skin long may it continue
 
I'm starting to see this thread differently now, originally I just wanted the media to have some enthusiasm and say kind words about City, they very rarely do and its lead to me to being annoyed! It's not ruined my day, but it doesn't add to the experience other fans have had.

Over the years I realise that positivity is way down the line.

Maybe one day someone will be able to write positive things about the blues and this thread won't exist anymore, but that will only happen when the chief editors are no longer allowed to dictate a journalist story or they retire and new blood takes over, who are warmer about City.


The most positive thing to come from this is to

.....Just be content to know, they're fookin hurting and see the funny side of their bitter turmoil.

And it's not to bad.
 
ted the grass said:
so...Jews and Arabs out...BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE..??
more than a whiff of the old 1939 Bier keller about this....where's Lineker when ya need him?

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I was in Budapest a few weeks back and got talking to some Hamburg fans who weirdly had an affinity to Bayern Munich. They were giving it ‘how can you support City with Arab owners’, they seem to have short memories at Hamburg that they were sponsored by Emirates, apparently taking Arab sponsorship money is different to Arab owners in their eyes. Weirdos.
 
airfrance7 said:
I’m away with work this week and I watched the game on BT Sport last night. Lucy Ward was abysmal throughout the match. Even to the point where she said that “Bayern will definitely score against City tonight”. Constantly cheering Bayern on. Gave us zero credit all night….
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When people are given jobs for reasons other than their ability, this tends to be the outcome, unfortunately.
 
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