Media thread 2022/23

[mad4city]

I find it strange that some people in the media are trying to push the whole “haaland isn’t getting many touches and is therefore shit.”
Surely the fact he’s the leading goalscore in the league, has an assist and is 6 in 4 with that few touches proves how good he is?
And that’s not even mentioning when he does start getting more touches? I think the message they’re trying to get across, aside from being stupid in the first place, is at risk of making him even more frightening

It's the lack of context that bewilders me.
If Haaland has two, ten or 200 touches, what does that statistic mean when presented in isolation?
What's the average amount of touches for a no.9?
Is there sone gold standard touches to goals ratio that we don't know about?
Or a minimum amount of touches he should be aiming for? Some target that means he's had a good game (presumably, even if he doesn't score)?

Of course there isn't because none of these things apply in the real world. The number of times a player touches the ball is only one component of their performance. Theoretically, a forward could never touch the ball in a game but have made the runs that created spaces for ten goals.

So why go out of the way to focus on the number of touches? And why only for Haaland? How come he is the only forward ever whose success is to be measured in touches rather than goals?

I could maybe understand as part of a wider analysis, if he wasn't playong well or wasn't scoring but using a random statistic as a backhanded insinuation that he's not playing well - when the kid is actually on fire - is a new low.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Has Alfie Junior 's touches gone down from when he was at Dortmund?

I don't really give a fuck as he's scoring and pulling defenders all over the park but maybe it's what usually happens?

I did watch him numerous times on TV playing for them but no idea if he had 500 or 5 touches but what I do know is he scores goals.

 

[bluemanchester]

It's just a stick to beat City and Haaland with implying because he only toched it 8 times in each half he is not as good as people think he is. If the yardstick of how good a player is depends on how many touches he had then the Palace defender Anderson must be up there with Messi as he must have had about 90 touches. This brilliant Anderson marshalling their defence conceded 4 goals. Our crowd singing, 2 nil up and you fecked it up was apt. Just remember the BBC, Sky and the media are only interested in putting City down. As for Haaland I couldn't give a toss how many touches he has if he scores another 6 goals in every batch of 4 games.
2 nil up and you fecked it up hurt the media just as much as it hurt the Palace fans.

 

[BolinCell]

I've seen nothing but praise for Haaland today, what paper should i be reading for a negative?. Also our goalie messed up a few times yesterday especially for that disallowed goal for palace, if the press had it in for us they could of gone with that, it could of been given. Ederson is starting to worry me. Tin hat on.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Same here, nothing but praise for City and especially Haaland. I guess if you go looking for negatives to moan at you're going to find them.

lfc broke the record for goals, they're bound to be in the news too.

 

[mac]

It's the lack of context that bewilders me.
If Haaland has two, ten or 200 touches, what does that statistic mean when presented in isolation?
What's the average amount of touches for a no.9?
Is there sone gold standard touches to goals ratio that we don't know about?
Or a minimum amount of touches he should be aiming for? Some target that means he's had a good game (presumably, even if he doesn't score)?

Of course there isn't because none of these things apply in the real world. The number of times a player touches the ball is only one component of their performance. Theoretically, a forward could never touch the ball in a game but have made the runs that created spaces for ten goals.

So why go out of the way to focus on the number of touches? And why only for Haaland? How come he is the only forward ever whose success is to be measured in touches rather than goals?

I could maybe understand as part of a wider analysis, if he wasn't playong well or wasn't scoring but using a random statistic as a backhanded insinuation that he's not playing well - when the kid is actually on fire - is a new low.

What the stupid fuckers do not realise is that they are actually giving him praise. For a striker that only has a few touches yet when he gets a chance he is fucking deadly

 

[levets]

Mowbray supports York City, but has previously said he’s a ‘fan’ of City. I read that as he likes watching us and has appreciated our football

I think you are correct, it was Mowbray and he was excellent. Especially the comment about 'mentality monsters'.

 

[Phil1]

If the big Norse God only had 3 touches a game and they were all rebounds off his arse, as long as he was putting up the numbers where it counts I couldn't give a shiny fuck.

 

[levets]

Same here, nothing but praise for City and especially Haaland. I guess if you go looking for negatives to moan at you're going to find them.

lfc broke the record for goals, they're bound to be in the news too.

lfc broke the record for goals, they're bound to be in the news too.
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Equalled it.

 

[citizen_maine]

Same here, nothing but praise for City and especially Haaland. I guess if you go looking for negatives to moan at you're going to find them.

lfc broke the record for goals, they're bound to be in the news too.

No they didn't

 

[deano ou812]

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Here is Sky Sports just casually adding £34.5 million to Haaland’s transfer fee and chalking off one of his goals.

You’re not telling me they got both wrong by accident.

Is that not the fee the red scousers paid for the head butting nunez,sky wish it was him who had scored the hat trick and have 6 goals after 4 games ..

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

lfc broke the record for goals, they're bound to be in the news too.
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Equalled it.

Tbh I don't really care as much.

 

[SilvaisSkyBlue]

I've seen nothing but praise for Haaland today, what paper should i be reading for a negative?. Also our goalie messed up a few times yesterday especially for that disallowed goal for palace, if the press had it in for us they could of gone with that, it could of been given. Ederson is starting to worry me. Tin hat on.

Of course your right, the thousands of negative articles each season are cancelled out by the begrudgingly given positive articles when we come back from 2-0 down and Haaland scores his first hat trick.

Why would the press target the disallowed goal? It was disallowed as it wasn’t a goal in the eyes of the ref, so yet it could of been given, but correctly wasn’t, you sound a little gutted.

Also, funny your whole post is indicating no press bias, whilst the overwhelming evidence is right in front of us on a daily basis, confirmed not only by City themselves but people on here who work in that profession.

Ederson offers City far more positives to our whole style of play than negatives, so he and more importantly Guardiola couldn’t give a fûck what you think, but good on you for bringing another negative to your post, outstanding work.

 

[whipper]

LiveScore App, difference between Mendy and Greenwood.

 

[levets]

You’d think our ‘in house’ media would get things right…

 

[argyle]

Don't know where to put this but I guess Twitter is part of the media.

City have been putting out a lot of good content for Pride weekend the past 3 or 4 days. The comments underneath the tweets have been disappointing to say the least.

Most were from new fans in the Middle East and America and many were disgusting. It's twitter, so it's to be expected but I don't like some of these new fans who have only just started following.

I don't expect many replies but I needed to say it.

 

[Centurions]

Don't know where to put this but I guess Twitter is part of the media.

City have been putting out a lot of good content for Pride weekend the past 3 or 4 days. The comments underneath the tweets have been disappointing to say the least.

Most were from new fans in the Middle East and America and many were disgusting. It's twitter, so it's to be expected but I don't like some of these new fans who have only just started following.

I don't expect many replies but I needed to say it.

Very few seem to be from City fans happily, although there are some numpties. The none City fans are truly pathetic. It's Twitter where the morons come out to play with no come back (and no, there are no puns in there before anyone asks).

 

[give it to gordon]

Is it just me but if the keeper saves a penalty its not a missed penalty it's a saved penalty. A missed penalty is when the taker misses the goal.

From the bbc after the penalty was saved

 

[jrb]

Not City.

Talk about dragging out a European Cup win for a headline paragraph.

 

[Stephen230]

Is it just me but if the keeper saves a penalty its not a missed penalty it's a saved penalty. A missed penalty is when the taker misses the goal.

From the bbc after the penalty was saved

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You often hear of players “missing a glorious chance” from open play when the ‘keeper has saved it, so I don’t think the term is generally used to only describe shots off target.