Media thread 2022/23

[Ric]

I thought the Haaland article by Ronay the other week was actually largely decent, but this is just more tiresome, predictable shite from The Guardian sport desk. The final paragraph is particularly pathetic.

 

[chesterbells]

I thought the Haaland article by Ronay the other week was actually largely decent, but this is just more tiresome, predictable shite from The Guardian sport desk. The final paragraph is particularly pathetic.

Ah liew once again. He really is a consistent disappointment of a journalist.

And yeah, that last para is pure poison; it’s just so bad it’s beyond refuting, I mean where do you start.

 

[Ric]

Ah liew once again. He really is a consistent disappointment of a journalist.

The likes of Liew and Wilson seem to derive zero joy from watching football, but try to impose their misery on the rest of us.

 

[chesterbells]

The likes of Liew and Wilson seem to derive zero joy from watching football, but try to impose their misery on the rest of us.

I know it’s an oft-quoted trope on here, but it really is galling to think of the likes of these two ever swanning into our stadium to come and enjoy our hospitality and watch us play.

 

[andyhinch]

I thought the Haaland article by Ronay the other week was actually largely decent, but this is just more tiresome, predictable shite from The Guardian sport desk. The final paragraph is particularly pathetic.

Good thing he’s not bitter :-)

 

[nastyitch]

got to love the bit re match of the day analysis as if The Grauniad intellectual hacks are on a superior plane
"any attempt at meaningful analysis reduced to Match of the Day punditry level, in which one simply describes the thing that everyone else is already watching. Well, here, Gary, we see Haaland kick the ball and do a goal. He has lots of goals, Alan adds. You did a lot of goals in your time, Alan, Gary replies. Everyone laughs."

 

[Ric]

got to love the bit re match of the day analysis as if The Grauniad intellectual hacks are on a superior plane
"any attempt at meaningful analysis reduced to Match of the Day punditry level, in which one simply describes the thing that everyone else is already watching. Well, here, Gary, we see Haaland kick the ball and do a goal. He has lots of goals, Alan adds. You did a lot of goals in your time, Alan, Gary replies. Everyone laughs."

I’m getting a bit tired of these articles where any attempt at meaningful analysis is reduced to Guardian punditry level, in which one simply resorts to slightly xenophobic tropes rather than describing the thing that everyone is watching. Well, here, Jonathan, we’ll talk about “oil money” and “Arab state owned super clubs”. I said exactly the same thing last week, replies the other Jonathan. Everyone laughs.

 

[JewelZee]

I know it’s an oft-quoted trope on here, but it really is galling to think of the likes of these two ever swanning into our stadium to come and enjoy our hospitality and watch us play.

I'd toss them both off the top of the park.

 

[Ric]

I'd toss them both off the top of the park.

Steady on. We’re already giving them enough.

 

[cheekybids]

I’m getting a bit tired of these articles where any attempt at meaningful analysis is reduced to Guardian punditry level, in which one simply resorts to slightly xenophobic tropes rather than describing the thing that everyone is watching. Well, here, Jonathan, we’ll talk about “oil money” and “Arab state owned super clubs”. I said exactly the same thing last week, replies the other Jonathan. Everyone laughs.

It was like he had a checklist (citeh bingo) that he needed to include which stopped from being a well written positive story to the usual xenophobic nonsense.

He talks about the fairy tale transition & yet fails to include that his dad played for City in that period. Why, well it removes the the romanticism & takes it back to laboratory designed & away from hard work & dedication. It as if he’s become Jaws (Bond) or some Soviet experiment only achieving because of his size.

I like the start where he talked about defenders brushed aside with ease. How about analysis of that. Why couldn’t Lukaku (1” shorter but 15kg hesvier) who looks far stronger have that impact?

 

[domalino]

The likes of Liew and Wilson seem to derive zero joy from watching football, but try to impose their misery on the rest of us.

Imagine seeing greatness in the sport you've dedicated your life to and being unable to enjoy it because you're so preoccupied on if it will eventually feel normal.

 

[argyle]

I'd toss them both off the top of the park.

 

[The perfect fumble]

I thought the Haaland article by Ronay the other week was actually largely decent, but this is just more tiresome, predictable shite from The Guardian sport desk. The final paragraph is particularly pathetic.

a vision of a future in which an Erling Haaland boot is stamping on a Kevin De Bruyne cross, for ever.

Jonathan Liew
....................

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

George Orwell.
....................

School boy journalism.

 

[cheekybids]

I'd toss them both off the top of the park.

Which park…….asking for a friend

 

[cheekybids]

a vision of a future in which an Erling Haaland boot is stamping on a Kevin De Bruyne cross, for ever.

Jonathan Liew
....................

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on Liews face – forever.

Cheekybids.
....................

School boy journalism.

Edited for you

 

[The perfect fumble]

Ah liew once again. He really is a consistent disappointment of a journalist.

And yeah, that last para is pure poison; it’s just so bad it’s beyond refuting, I mean where do you start.

You don't

 

[Colin Bell (genuine name)]

I don’t know how to start a new thread but I think it may be educational for Bluemooners with the replies that may follow this post, but I’ve been thinking, and it may sound controversial but…….Has FFP been the catalyst to our success?

Without FFP, would we have sought out the expertise of Soriano and Begiristan and with that, the subsequent commitment of Pep Guardiola.

Did FFP make Khaldoon focus the strategy of the club? Were we in danger of chasing glory through already established big names? I.e Kaka etc.

I don’t know if FFP made our management team focus on building a team and club that is now recognised by FIFA as the best club in the world.

I think what I am trying to say is that without financial constrictions we may have had a team containing Sanchez, Fred, Cucarella, Ronaldo and possibly Neymar, Messi, Mbappe and god knows who else and that would be the result of being able to spend what we like.

I think FFP has been good for us, it highlights how superior our management team are in that they have pulled together a group of individuals that willingly contribute to be part of a team that produce consistently brilliant football that we all love to watch rather than a group of egocentric footballers more interested in their own reputations than their part in the collective.

We have paid a Man City tax on a lot of players, which in my opinion is the only way we can be accused of inflating transfer fees. (It’s Man City, they’re loaded, let’s add a few million on).

We definitely are the best run club in the world and there is absolutely no doubt about it and it is because we know how to operate within the financial restraints of FFP but also because our owners are not yet ready to cash in, that is why by continuing to invest in the team, keeping key management and players happy, we continue to grow and our value grows on an ever rising trajectory.

But the mainstream media don’t or won’t recognise this simple fact and it is pure and simple xenophobia with an inherent loyalty to the traditional big 4.

Manchester City are world leaders in the business of football and are an example that American owners should follow to make the maximum profit from their investment but as long as they (American owners) can skim the cream and have the support of the media then we will never be recognised as the trendsetters.

Is FFP the reason we are so good? discuss ….

 

[TheThirdDeano]

Someone will get offended by that as well, you used army and Barmy, can't say that mate :)

Shit good point.

How about
We’re richer than you, we’re richer than you!
We’re government funded,
We’re richer than you!

 

[Newman Noggs]

Extract from an interview with Jonathan Liew when he was writing for the Telegraph;

"I can’t ever remember you saying who your team is…

Off the record – entirely off the record – Spurs. Actually, you know what, you can write that but you have to also write the full story. And that’s that my first team is Spurs and my second team is Arsenal. It’s a very clear one-two. They’re not joint favourites by any means, but I do like them both.

How does that happen?​

I come at things very logically and rationally. And while Spurs is a very emotional thing, that came from school days, as I grew older I started to question ‘why do I instinctively have to hate Arsenal? I admire their manager, I admire their football.’ And Spurs and Arsenal are demographically the same, there’s no sectarian split there. They’re the same. They should merge. They really should merge. I’m a North London fan.

North London Rovers.​

Yeah, North London Rovers. Spursnal. Arsenham. Do it. They should share a stadium. They should play in each other’s kits when they go away from home. That should be the next step. Arsenal should play in a white away kit and Tottenham should play in a red away kit. Eventually they’ll turn ever so slightly pink and then suddenly one day, nobody even notices, they’re both wearing the same colour shirt, with the same sponsor and they’re called Arsenham. That’s the dream"

The guy probably wears a half and half scarf.

 

[Kinkys Left Foot]

That's a bizarre concept of someone who has litte or no understanding of proper football rivalry.

He's obviously never been humiliated by opposition fans or subjected to physical violence or any of the plethora of name-calling, taunting or unpleasantness one suffers at games at any time in his life because of who he openly supports.

What are his emotions if Spurs get smashed by Arsenal in the NLD? Quiet indifference? Does he not feel sick to the stomach for a couple of days and unable to watch any shithouse media covering the hammering. Does he ever feel like not going into work to face the inevitable jibes and mockery following a Derby defeat.

He comments as if he is some aloof distant observer with no connection to either team or players. Where is his emotional investment? There cannot be the same amount of joy felt in a win without the yang of the pain of the potential loss.

What kind of a football fan is he, none that I recognise.